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Old 04-01-2012, 11:45 PM
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SEGA hasn't really released much good games for a good while.

Aside from Bayonetta and the last 2 Sonic console games.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:13 AM
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No Rhythm Thief sequel for me, I guess.

Get your crap together soon, Sega. ;_;
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:25 AM
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How is this new direction anything like they were in the 90's? If you only mean that their financials aren't in the red, then perhaps. Other than that, nothing about what they're doing according to this news story (and have been doing over the last several years, for that matter) resemble the 90's Sega in any way.
You have misquoted me, I said they NEED to get back to how they where in the 90's in the sense that they need to up their production values to how they where when they where in the hardware business (I'm sure I am not the only one who will say that SEGA as a software company have been nowhere near as devoted to games as they where when they where also in the hardware business with a few exceptions of course).

As the article has stated they are cancelling IP's in favor of working on their more profitable IP's and I am sure a lot of those big hitters are the likes of Sonic, Virtua Fighter, SEGA Rally, Daytona USA etc etc. Games which where prominently from SEGA of the 90's.

Let me ask you this lets say you are the president of SEGA and are facing these financial issues. Would you...

A) Continue to produce IP after IP with no known idea of how well the IP will do in terms of commercial profit?

B) Work on those tried and tested IP's and put extra efforts to make the game memorable and the best it can possibly be, knowing very well that the game will sell very well?

C) Work on tried and tested IP's putting the same amount of effort as is currently being put into the IP's, knowing it will sell well?
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:32 AM
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No Rhythm Thief sequel for me, I guess.

Get your crap together soon, Sega. ;_;
From the demo it didn't seem like much anyway.
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You have misquoted me, I said they NEED to get back to how they where in the 90's in the sense that they need to up their production values to how they where when they where in the hardware business (I'm sure I am not the only one who will say that SEGA as a software company have been nowhere near as devoted to games as they where when they where also in the hardware business with a few exceptions of course).

As the article has stated they are cancelling IP's in favor of working on their more profitable IP's and I am sure a lot of those big hitters are the likes of Sonic, Virtua Fighter, SEGA Rally, Daytona USA etc etc. Games which where prominently from SEGA of the 90's.

Let me ask you this lets say you are the president of SEGA and are facing these financial issues. Would you...

A) Continue to produce IP after IP with no known idea of how well the IP will do in terms of commercial profit?

B) Work on those tried and tested IP's and put extra efforts to make the game memorable and the best it can possibly be, knowing very well that the game will sell very well?

C) Work on tried and tested IP's putting the same amount of effort as is currently being put into the IP's, knowing it will sell well?
Who cares what I would do as the president of Sega? That's irrelevant to this discussion.

The point I'm making is that Sega getting back to where they were in the 90's in any other way than being in the black financially would require an entirely different direction than what they're doing according to this news story. I didn't misquote you in any way.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:51 PM
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Who cares what I would do as the president of Sega? That's irrelevant to this discussion.

The point I'm making is that Sega getting back to where they were in the 90's in any other way than being in the black financially would require an entirely different direction than what they're doing according to this news story. I didn't misquote you in any way.
I think I am not explaining myself in the way I am supposed to so I shall try again and try to explain more what I mean. OK in the 90's I would say (and this is my opinion) that both SEGA and Nintendo where the big 2 companies in terms of Software and Hardware. Now I always bought a SEGA console above anything else because it was a company I enjoyed, not just for their hardware but their first party software.

However I feel somewhere down the road since turning into a software company some of that magic has disappeared from SEGA and those games that are superb games (Valkyria Chronicles) I feel are not promoted enough by SEGA for consumers to buy the products. Whereas in the 90's when SEGA where one of the major players they made promoting their software one of the priorities.

Now when I say they need to be that company from the 90's I do not mean they should have another stab at the hardware business (although if SEGA did jump back into the hardware business I would be first in line to pick one up). What I mean is they need to be the company people would talk about in high regard and people will buy because of the SEGA name associated to said game.

With regards to my step in the right direction comment, I do somewhat mean that financially, but I also believe that in order for them to expand into that once great company they need to build on the tried and trusted franchises such as Sonic.

I'm not convinced that SEGA will just stick to their currently IP's I think down the road they will expand out, but they need to make getting back into the black a priority and build a strong foundation for them to expand upon.

I'm of course only expressing my opinion, but does that make sense?
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Look, I understand what you're saying. It's not the way you're explaining it that's the issue. I simply don't agree that Sega paring down their portfolio to just a few of their profitable franchises (none of which are really good at this point, anyway) is going to lead to a return of what they were in the 90's. What they're doing is NOT going to return them to the status of the original software powerhouse they once were. While it may return them to profitability (or at least allow them to break even), I don't see this as a road toward what they once were. In fact, it's pretty much the complete opposite.

And whatever, I say. I've all but lost complete hope for Sega, anyway. They simply don't have the people, the vision, the soul, etc. that they did in their heyday. That's what they need to be great again, not dumping off all of their franchises, streamlining their company, and only concentrating on a few tired franchises.
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree, I do think like in most business you do at times have to go backwards to go forwards and this is what I feel is the case with SEGA.
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Sega just needs to make a Dreamcast 2. It should:

-ditch any games with online passes, or have it so you can play used games and get ALL the content new games have. Gamers will love this.
-ban day one or on-disc DLC.
-free online, as good as XBL with a PS+ paid service
-have Bayonetta 2 as a launch title, and Vanquish 2 later down the line
-have Space Channel 3 with dance pad/kinect 2.0 for dem casuals
-lower the prices of digital games considerably. If it costs $60 in stores, it should cost $40 online
-come packed with a complete Sonic the Hedgehog 4, revamped with an engine that does not suck

Many more come to mind, but as it will never happen, I don't want to sadden myself.
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Sega just needs to make a Dreamcast 2. It should:

-ditch any games with online passes, or have it so you can play used games
And it should let you pirate all its games to put on blank discs
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