the lounge has a lot of dif topics, as long as there not a flood of wiiu discusiion hope this is ok? dont have time to join several forums...

anyway, all the hype about nintendo suddenly going hardcore looks to be thankfully very exagerated - here we see some good old fashioned nintendo common sense, very interesting quote, you can comment your views on this

Miyamoto: price may limit Wii U power - Edge Magazine

. In an interview with GameSpot, Shigeru Miyamoto admits that Nintendo's desire to release Wii U at an appealing price point may see that power limited. "We're trying to find the right balance between the CPU and the GPU, and bringing all of that together with the ability to take advantage of the HD capabilities of the system," he explains. "We're very sensitive, of course, to do all of this at an appropriate price. So I don't know that we would be able to sit here and say that it's going to necessarily dramatically outperform the systems that are out now. It's part of the balance that we strike in terms of trying to find entertainment that is new and unique."
Source: GameSpot
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i just dont want to see a huge entry point, it tires me out form gaming to be quite honest.....

No surprise, Nintendo has swore to never release a console that they couldn't turn a profit off of.

Thanks for the news, barkis.

Hopefully, Nintendo will consider to finalised WiiU machine that will dramatically outperform any consoles in the market. But I agree that price is the most important part

Well, looks like I may not be buying a Wii U if it isn't dramatically more powerful than current gen consoles and it looks like Nintendo is going the Wii route again. If this is true, then Nintendo has learned nothing and will probably take a big hit in marketshare of next-gen consoles. Sure the Wii did it, but I'm not sure if they can pull off another "success" like that.

That's not the point of the article at all. He's saying Nintendo is trying really hard to make the system powerful while at the same time, making it affordable. Probably a $300 to $350 price point. It doesn't mean they're not going to try to outpower them but they're trying to make a profit off it too.

The Wiiu doesn't have to be dramatically more powerful than current gen, it just need to be more powerful to some extent and have good games, both first party and third party support. You wouldn't want a repeat of "500 AND 99 US DOLLARS!" at E3 would you? I don't think so.

Yeah but in the quote says "So I don't know that we would be able to sit here and say that it's going to necessarily dramatically outperform the systems that are out now". That's very clear and that has definitely pushed my potential to buy one down quite a lot. In fact if this is true I won't be buying this console because it won't get good third party support once the PS4 and next-box come out.


and to the part about repeat of $599, the Xbox 360 launched for $400 and is similar in power. What drove the PS3 price up is the blu ray drive, and the processor.
Without a hard drive, the cost would go down sginificantly. We don't need $599 to be a full generation ahead.

Yes it does need to be more powerful than current generation consoles. Why? It's an 8th generation console! We are in the 7th generation right now.

Even though Miyamoto is a well respected game developer, he isn't really the most reliable source when it comes to information like this. The Wii U will be more powerful than the PS3, and probably less powerful than the PS4, but we don't know to what extent.

What exactly do statements like "dramatically outperform" mean anyway? Does it mean "don't expect Samaritan-level graphics" or does it mean "expect graphics slightly above what is out there now?"

Do I expect the WiiU to look as good as the PS4? No I don't. But I think we should wait until we have more concrete specs before starting with the "Nintendo is doomed" posts.

Also, lack of third party support on the Wii was not due to a general lack of power. Third parties avoided the Wii because its hardware was incompatible with their engines. From the rumors we have seen so far, the Wii U fixes this problem by being fully compatible with common engines such as UE3. I expect the Wii U to receive ports of PS4/Next-box games, but scaled down graphically.

This is what I've heard from several sources.

Right now the Wii U is expected to be about 50% more powerful than the PS3. (Graphics wise, and processing power.)

While this isn't the latest tech, it should be the best looking system out there. It will also probably be around $350 with the tech in it right now. Of course they may cut back and try for a $299 price point. (Which makes more sense to me for a Nintendo system.)

This is not going to be next gen as in PS4 era. Nintendo is just catching up to the current gen. (The Wii was never truly the next gen.)

Well thats just silly, conidering wii and ps3 competed on the same shelfsapce at the sam time with launch a month apart and nintendo totally dominated sony in all aspects - system sales, game sales, and profit.

The other irony of your post would be controllers - well, we all know who played catch up in that area, dont we. And, by the way, Sony played catch up AGAIN!

I saw anohter burb that sys Iwata expects to see $50 content on Wiiu, but siad higher priced premium games could be at $60, citing call of duty as an example. Yours truly would like to know - well what about premium nintendo games - will new super mario wiiu be $50 or $60????

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it is unkonwn and the key would be low cost hardware and great exclusive software - just like wii.

the wii is a huge success and the most important and influential console of this generation, I hope nintendo can keep the great orginal software coming. because heaven help us, most of the rest of the industry likes to cash in on existing hit software, not create it. or example EA trying to out call of duty activision - sad....

No I don't mind paying £300 to £400 for a console that's way more powerful, god Nintendo annoys me at times.