I hate the Vita, but i think it'll go against Nintendo 3DS very well. I think the 3DS is better tho.

Name one way that the 3DS is better than PSV.

3D without glasses
dual screens
stylus for precision
first party games
Streetpass
Spotpass

I can't see this thread ending well. 4 posts in and it's already turning to a 3ds vs. Vita thread.

1. As opposed to Vita's 3D that requires glasses?
2. Because two screens is better than one right...
3. Having not used the Vita i can't say for sure but i doubt there will be any issues because it lacks a stylus, i very rarely use my stylus on my 3DS anyway.
4. Well it is personal opinion whether those first-party games are better than Sony's but the difference with PSV is that it isn't going to rely as heavily on first-party titles as the 3DS.
5. It's a cool feature for the 3DS but PSV not having it is no big deal.
6. I could be wrong but surely PSV has something similar to this, you really don't want to compare PSV's online functionality to that of the 3DS it'll just be embarrassing.

I'm just so happy about the dual sticks. There are many games that I can't play because of the terrible camera, and I hate having to use the touchscreen/gyroscope to aim/adjust the camera, so the Vita is perfect in regards to the controls. I'm still hoping that many Japanese only PSP titles are localized as Vita games. I don't want to miss out on FF Type-0 and it would work much better on the Vita than the PSP.

1. As in 3D vs 2D
2. Yeah Ocarina of Time 3D and Resident Evil Mercs should have taught you that.
3. Things like writing and other things which require pinpoint precision are better with a stylus.
4. I wasn't talking about Nintendo having better first party games than Sony but the fact that the 3DS has games which Vita doesn't.
5. Just another thing Vita doesn't have didn't say it was great.
6. It has Near which allows you to track people online quite different from Spotpass. Comparing online with Spotpass is very different.

But like the poster above said this doesn't need to become a thread about Vita vs 3DS I just wanted to point out that the 3DS has things that the Vita doesn't.

Just one question for all you Vita fans, what the HECK is a "touchpad" doing on the back of the Vita? what would you use that for? And, wouldn't it get in the way when you're playing a game?

It's there for an additional method of control. No, it wouldn't. The Vita has two grips for a reason.

what the vita has is:
- (1)sharp / big view angle / no ghosting / fast reaction / big / clear "portable HD" / low energy consumption with up to date touch ability's.
( 3D is actually emulateable through headtracking to some degree for the people that wanna experience it, other then that pointless on the vita tho )
- (2,3) stylus isn't needed on a high resolution + big screen. Pencils where used back in the days through the need to push as much of data into small resolution screens that where unable to be pressed by hands. At this place of time its pointless to have. I rather have a backtouch for additional controls and a touchscreen on the main screen where you can actually press the game area instead of having to push it on a different screen ( 2x screens can easily be emulated by vita tho )
- (4) personal preference, sony also has first party games
- (5) street pass is a inferior version of near. As street pass you need to actually pass people and hope that you live inside crowed city's or schools that have people actually bringer these devices with them.
With near you can simple contact with anybody in the world without having to move it. ( street pass is a useless function completely if you never bring the 3DS outside with you to start with )
- (6) its called everywhere else a background downloader, its nothing special at all. its just that nintendo gives it a additional name. i'm sure the vita will have it and if not, who cares.

The only thing that the 3DS really has = is its 3D screen. But the sacrifices are of such extent that you really really got to loooove 3D in order to actually choose for it.

So i kinda disagree.

stop trolling , this is not a 3ds thread ...
can u let us plz talk about the vita ?? plz plz plzzzzzzzzzz
if u dont like this thread , just go

oot 3DS was just bad programmed to start with through having limitations at that time. There is no need for a second screen in OOT. The swap from iron boots could easily be placed on a icon on for example the vita screen so that you can swap them on and off or allocate a button for it.

1. 3D vs 2D? As in personal preference? You cannot definitively say that the 3D effect looks better than without. Personally i dislike the 3D effect and i hardly ever use the 3D effect on my 3DS, sure it looks 'cool' at times but the superior graphics that PSV brings to the table are more impressive than some fancy eye tricks.

2. Yes they do work well with the touch screen but overall i don't see one screen as a disadvantage. Games can quite easily be designed with Vita's control scheme in mind and work well, most console games i have played work fine without a touch interface.

3. Oh darn, i was looking forward to PSV's writing games.

4. PSV will have games that the 3DS doesn't...what's your point?

5. How is it a disadvantage then? I said "name one way that the 3DS is better than PSV." It not having a feature like that doesn't make it better.

6. Isn't SpotPass when the 3DS downloads stuff while in sleep mode? Is that supposed to be some big feature?
You wanted to state the obvious? Mission accomplished.

It will maybe used as an L2 & R2. .

There's only one thing it has: 3D

I can't double post so I'll just add this right here(for the thread and not comparisons):

the 3ds is good but the ps vita its better in alot ways
the games
the graphics
the touchscreen
the controls
new ips like escape plan , ruin or gravity daze
the inthernet
the online
the psn network
etc

i prefer this

than this in 3d

No comparisons. I don't want this thread locked.

Cut the 3DS vs. Vita crap before I lock the topic and hand out infractions.

You know why 3DS is not better or worse than Vita?
Because games make a console,not the hardware.
And games are a matter of preference so you cannot say its better as a fact.

you have to realize. ITS NOT EVEN OUT yet. sheesh, all this " VITA, our messiah!" Say stuff when it comes out.

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I kinda don't like the back touch pad because it makes the vita more fragile.

are you forgetting about Near on the ps vita? IMO that's going to be better than streetpass. first party goes to sony, dual screens ( idk why that's better than having 1 big 5 inch OLED screen) isn't better, and with the vita's capacitive touchscreen, you don't need a stylus, and you have your dual analog stick for precision.

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true, but look what's happened to the 3ds cause of it's underpowered hardware. devs don't want to make games for it, it lacks functions/features found on even mp3 players nowadays.

Not exactly true, they didn't want to make games for it because of lack of masses. Look what happened with modern warfare 3

no, it's cause they have the more powerful vita todevelop for, and easier to develop for vita. look at the wii, it sold ALOT, but all they made was shovel ware. more consoles doesn't mean more quality games. it actually kinda means more shovel ware, especially in nintendo consoles.( since they have it bad with the 3rd parties)

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it can be used as at l2/r2 buttons, plus you can use it to interact with the environments in games without taking your attention away from the screen. when sony was making the vita, they sat down with all of their 3rd party devs and they asked the devs what they wanted to be on the vita. most devs said dual analog stick, the back touchpad, and alot of RAM.

The wii was the wii, in fact there were a lot of great 3rd party games. But developers just wanted to flock towards the ps3 and 360. The vita may have more power, but when it comes down to it, thats not going to make developers not develop for the 3ds. Activision developed for the ds instead of the 3ds, and which has more power?

Hey guys seriously we already got one warning don't get this thread locked.

Anyways I'm debating over whether or not I want to import the Vita or not. It depends on when the US release is, and how much it'll cost to get it from play-asia.

cause the ds is easier to develop for, that's why. and there is a reason that the developers wanted to flock to the ps3 and 360. and yeah, it's not just hte fact that vita has more power that's going to make the devs want to develop for it rather than the 3ds, it's that nintendo and 3rd party devs don't really see eye to eye, that's another main reason. oh, and the vita was actually created with alot of ideas from the devs, which makes it a very dev friendly system.and alot of great 3rd party games for the wii? what kind of games do you consider to be "great" games?

yeah just wait and see what the play-asia price is. if it's an okay price, I would import it if I were you, there is no region locking or anything to worry about.

and let's continue this through PM, szayel, i don't want to get banned again lol

I think the psvita is the most impressive handheld I have ever seen in terms of features. In my opinion, it could almost be considered a multimedia device. I think ( sorry for another comparison) that it outdoes the 3ds HARDWARE feature wise. The only real things the 3ds has on the vita are the 3d and two screens. But in the end, it all comes down to games my friends.

^Both the 3DS and Vita are multimedia devices. However, the non-gaming apps on the Vita will most likely be downplayed.

something that neither console has yet lol. but even in games, it seems the vita is getting more support.

Then why were you saying 3rd party devs aren't going to develop on the 3ds because of power?

ClippersTown,wtf?
You say Vita is more powerfull,so that's why devs.. want to develop to Vita.
But you say Activision wants to develop to DS because its easy to develop?
You contradict yourself.

It's a pretty credible argument, though. Isn't it? It's going to be much more difficult for 3rd parties to make their games look decent on the 3DS than on the Vita (e.g. much more time and resources spent on optimizing code, optimizing textures, working around memory limitations, etc.).

Activision want to develop for DS because...
A) there are millions more DSs around
B) they're morons because nobody wants to play an FPS that looks crappier than Doom in 1993.

You don't need it for the 3DS either, but it has the option to use a stylus and it has more precision than a capacitive touch screen, and I kind of like the dual screen on the DS and 3DS. Plenty of developers are supporting the 3DS.

Near may or may not work better than streetpass, we'll have to see. I am loving the big screen and the dual analog sticks on this thing though, and it should be a great handheld console. honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it beats the 3DS in sales, Sony has done so many things well with the Vita and i really want it, after i get a PS3.

I know, I'm like "WTF? You're going against EVERYTHING you were saying earlier.

Yes it is a valid argument, but to say that developers ONLY develop for stronger consoles is stupid. And believe it or not, a lot of people with DS's still buy call of duty games.

Not really. He is right that good graphics attract third party developers. Look at the Wii and it's crappy third party support. if the DS is easier to develop for than the PSP then that would attract some developers.

This has turned into a 3DS vs PSV thread. FAIL.

No he doesn't. He said that the vita will have more developers mainly because of its power. I said that isn't true, there are many cases where the lower powered system has plenty of 3rd party support.

PS Vita - Tag (gamescom 2011) - YouTube

That is insanely cool. Though I'd fear using the search feature downtown, lol.

That pretty cool. Makes me rethink the ps vita

Wow.. that's a really fun concept.

LMAO, its funny how one link can just throw everyone off track. But its still cool.

Who? me?

No clipperstown. What he was saying made no sense.

Woah that TAG thing is crazy. Could you imagine what Tokyo would end up looking like? It'll be like another place hidden upon itself XD

It would be pretty cool if they put Eye Tracking games on the PS Vita.

i3D - for iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad - YouTube

They probably will at some point.

Ok that TAG concept looks cool, but Im a little confused.

It is basicaly you tag say a local Mcdonalds saying "BANJO3DSIE RULEZ", it would actaully save that tag, and if someone completly unrelated comes and activates the tag feature, he will see my message and maybe change it to "LIEZ!!!", I would actually notice that he changed that, and then anyone that goes there would see the message?

That seems pretty cool actually.
Just go to New York City, and start spamming "BANJO3DSIE RULEZ" for the lulz.
EDIT:I have a feeling this would be like streetpass, an extreamly cool feature, but thanks to me living in a nongaming town, the only tags Ill be seeing, are my own tags . Unless I go to gamestop, at least one employee should have done that.

This is one of the greatest things ever. This feature alone is worth buying the Psvita. Makes me wonder, can you tag people? It'd be awesome to have a shirt design only certain people can see

I know the feel, bro. D:

I just realised that people could use this as free(or not free, but stay with me) advertising.
Say Im checking the tag at NYC like I said spamming "BANJO3DSIE RULEZ"(new goal in life) someone could easily create a tag saying "eat at mcdonalds" or something and get more advertisement.

The potential of the PS Vita is amazing and the specification is very impressive. Yesterday I read its been confirmed to have 512 megabytes of main memory and 128 megabytes of video memory. An insane amount for a portable really. Graphically its very powerful. It really seems that it will be able to run the same software as 360/PS3 except for software that truly maxes out the cpu performance of ps3/360. Those titles will have to have a few compromises to make it to the Vita.

The only thing I really don't like about the Vita is the size, is a little bulky. I suspect a revised version will probably shrink it down a bit. I'm hoping to get one day one. I've set myself a target of ?199 and if I can get a pre-order for that I'll be tempted.

As for software support its clear many publishers are hoping that the Vita will do the numbers and become a major new format so they are developing for it in a big way. If the Vita fails to sell in big numbers many developers will give up on it. We could see with the 3DS that it got some good early support especially from Capcom but then a series of cancellations were announced as it was realised it wasn't selling in huge numbers.

I'm a fps fan and I'm really looking forward to the first portable console that can pull off fps games.

I hope Sony do well with the Vita. It deserves to succeed, not at the expense of the 3DS though I hope that does well too. Competition keeps prices competitive.

I don't really like much of Sony's games but after a year or two when the vita comes out, I'll probably get it if it has some games I will enjoy.

no I'm not contradicting myself. a system has to be either powerful for devs to want to develop for, OR if it's not powerful, it has to at least be easy to develop for. the ps vita is both those according to devs. and dik where I heard, but it's hard for devs to make 3ds games, and the hardware is underpowered. 3ds is complete opposite of what devs want for making quality games.

read my previous post

But you were still saying (originally) that the 3ds isn't as strong as the vita, so developers won,'t develop for it. Which isn't exactly true, developers want masses over hardware. And yes the 3ds is difficult to develop on because it forces then to actually put some thought into their games instead of ports and shovelware.

Forces hmm?



(Not defending Clippers)

yeah the devs DO want to develop for the vita BECAUSE it's more powerful. devs didn't develop more for the psp than the ds because the ds was easier to develop for, if it wasn't, im sure the psp would have gotten more support due to it's superior hardware. I don't see what's so hard to understand lol. I didn't say the only reason devs want to develop for the vita over the 3ds is because vita is more powerful, now did I?

Can both of you STFU?

Who cares about this crap, just get whichever you want and leave the other alone.

^ you can ignore us if you wish. I already have a 3ds, and planning on getting a vita.

No because if you two don't stop, this thread will be closed.

We don't need another thread locked because people
arguing over plastic.

Japan Studios is one of the most creative studios out there. If you haven't seen The Last Guardian, Gravity Rush, and Patapon, you should.

first world problems, nothing else to argue about.

I want a Vita !! Im gonna post billboards up promoting myself all over my city to challenge me at an FPS game hehehh

back on topic, that tagging thing looks sick. it should be free though.

Who wants to bet that a Nintendo/MS fanboy will buy a Vita, and the app, just to spam "SONY SUX NINTENDO/MS FTW". The irony would be delicious.

no because i doubt a 13 year old can afford a Vita just to spam with it

"Oh ****, I wasted $250 on this."

"Wait...this thing is fun!"

*Posts Internet rant on why Sony sucks*

"Ahhh better...."

"MS 4 LIFE!"

Exactly.
I MIGHT do that whenever I get a Vita(I AM getting one from all Ive seen, just might not at launch) for trolls and lulz, but I honestly would rather do "BANJO3DSIE RULEZ" first.

all the vita needs is 3d and nintendo games for me to buy
other than that i'll just stick to my ps3 and the 55 inch tv i spent a fortune on

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I would if I could, but I can't so I shan't

Man, I cannot stand morons... People that hate things that they havent even used yet... Thats so ignorant.

Anyways... hopefully people quit with the flaming, and the unneeded comparisons and bickering.


I am a lot more excited for the Vita, than I was for the 3DS. For one, EVERYTHING I have already downloaded for the PSP will work on the Vita. I dont need to WAIT for Sony to allow me to transfer MY stuff, I just redownload it.

I cant wait for some great racing games, and I am looking forward to whatever Ken Levine wants to put on the Vita in terms of Bioshock.

Well... Actually its really easy to make DS/Wii ports to 3DS.
And engines like MT.Framework run on it...

Also,ignore ClippersTown.He's just trolling.

dude wtf are you saying? just you don't understand what I say, that makes me a troll? I don't see what's so hard to understand that devs want to develop for consoles that are easy to develop for and/or have good graphical capabilities, which means they won't be limited too much by the hardware. next time don't troll just cause you don't understand something.

I see this thread being locked in the near future.

but until then check out this awesome looking game.

For some reason I'm not able to embed the actual videos so I'm just going to post the links of some interesting games.

Dragon's Crown - E3 2011 Trailer - YouTube
PS Vita - Gravity Rush (gamescom 2011) - YouTube
PS Vita - Uncharted Golden Abyss (gamescom 2011) - YouTube
Escape Plan - PS Vita - Gamescomm (HD) - YouTube
Ridge Racer - PlayStation Vita Trailer - YouTube

^ i'm liking all of those games man! although when I first saw escape plan, I thought it should be more of a mini game rather than a full priced game.

I believe it will be a downloadable PSN game like Fat Princess (produced by the same guy).

I'm liking a lot of the games that are coming out for it but I'm really aching for some strong JRPGs at TGS. I would love a port of Final Fantasy Type-0. That would make everything just perfect. Here's a trailer if you missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqnlicsHiuI

yeah type-0 port would be sick. what I want is for jack and daxter to be reborn on the vita, I also want a really good open sandbox type game, preferably a new IP.

That'd be cool but I'm not sure who would develop it. I could go for some action games like Bayonetta. I'd like to see Team Ico make a game for the Vita after they finish The Last Guardian. They could probably make something really unique (same with thatgamecompany).

Okay, that reminded me of something. I want a full game made out of this title: Malicious (PS3) Gameplay - Forbidden Floor - YouTube

^ that game looks sick, we need alot more of those haha
and I think sucker punch might be able to make something sick for the vita.

Sucker Punch is working on a new IP (as well as Guerrilla and Media Molecule) but I think they're sticking to home consoles for now.

Alvion (the maker of Malicious) already pledged their support to the Vita so I'm hoping we'll see something cool from them. Their games have never been published outside of Japan, though, which is sad.

I hate that about the Japanese, they keep the best for themselves cause they think only they deserve the best =/
( I know it's cause they think it won't sell well here, but I think that that's just a cover up lol)

Haha, Alvion's way too small to publish it themselves. I think the only companies that would be willing to are Atlus, Ignition, and Xseed. I actually heard of Xseed being interested in the title but there were some licensing problems or somethin' else.

You know what would be amazing? If developers put a subbed version of all of their Vita games on PSN.

From all the games coming out on Vita,Gravity Haze or Gravity Rush,blown me away.
It just,the artstyle,the graphics.Perfect.Though if the gameplay is not something like a
Action/Adventure-Hack 'n Slash-Platformer than ill get somewhat dissappointed.

I also love the stardust games!And Super Stardust Delta was looking good!
Until they shoved those touchscreen/motion control things...
It looks like it'll be awesome but if i HAVE TO use the touchscreen/motioncontrol
things than ill be dissappointed.

That tag feature looks awesome. Although probably useless in my town since there is a lack of wifi hotspots AND AT&T doesn't even have towers in my town. Sony, I love AT&T when I am in their covered areas, but please make a Verizon Vita so that when I am home I can take advantage of the 3G. Then I will probably buy a 3G vita.

For me, Sound Shapes is the one I want to see more of.

Screens of the OS. The latest screenshots for PlayStation Vita's OS toured in images | Eurogamer.net

Looks like you there will be changeable interfaces.

Now look at this screen right here.

See God of War 2? Does this mean they'll be porting PS2 games? Fingers crossed.

Some more info. A lot of technical stuff here. FYI pause the vid to the right.
http://onq-world.blogspot.com/2011/0...-building.html

What can I say that hasn't been said? I'm delighted by the two analog sticks, having all of the PSN features(trophies included!) is very welcome from the PSP's limited use of the PSN, the tech is simply stunning, the games look great, ect.

A few things I'd personally like to add, though. First, I really hope Syphon Filter gets a game on the Vita. In all honesty, the Syphon Filter games on the PSP may have been the defining franchise of the system. It proved how powerful the PSP was, how a shooter could work flawlessly without a second-analog stick, how a portable could have a console sized adventure with tons of unlockables, and fun, 8-player online matches. Nathan Drake may be the lead man with the PSV right now, but I really hope Gabe Logan gets a chance to shine.

Secondly, I can't WAIT to see what Atlus and Xseed brings us. Anyone with a PSP knows that those two companies have made some of the best games on the system, and I really hope they continue their excellent support with the PSV. Persona, Y's, Legend of Heroes, ect...can't wait!

... That says God of War 3.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Sure looks like a "III" to me.

I thought that, but look at the logo.

I just might be showing the remote play feature using the PS3, but being able to play PS2 games on the VITA would be epic.

Ah, yes. Good point!

I think Sony will start offering PS2 games on PSN.

Sorry to disappoint, but John Garvin, the writer for the Syphon Filter games, said that Bend is done with the series due to sales. Hopefully after they finish Golden Abyss, they can start on a new franchise.

I'm guessing Atlus will port over Catherine and Persona 5 to the Vita which would be fine by my but I'm not sure if they will develop anything for it themselves unless Sting makes more Dept. Heaven games (which are amazing). They like to continue to develop on past hardware before the jump on something new (see Devil Survivor 2 and P3/4). Xseed's quite excited. I'm hoping they bring over Falcom's new Vita game.

I'm really looking forward to playing vita JRPG'S

Uncharted:Golden Abyss, Ridge Racer, BioShock, Ruin, Alien Spidy, Street Fighter X Tekken, Virtua Tennis 4, ModNation Racers, Gravity Rush, Little Big Planet, Resistance, Monster Hunter, Disgaea 3, Assassin's Creed, Silent Hill, Dynasty Warrors, Mortal Kombat, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Final Fantasy, Dust 514, Metal Gear Solid, YS

MAN I WANT A VITA SO BAD

I'm actually now thinking that the PSVita will win the war for this round...
Social networking, great online, beautiful screen, powerful system, great games, third party support, good web browser... :/
I'm kind of regretting now waiting for the reviews of the vita before buying my 3DS. Oh well, 20 free games is still a good deal

Playstation (PS) Vita to steal iPhone 5, Nexus Prime gamers?

Your Thoughts?

I wouldn't be surprised. The PSP already supports dozens of games in the "minis" line that range from 99 cents to 5 bucks, so the casual gaming crowd will feel right at home on the system, assuming they continue to add games to the mini line. The PSV will most likely be the system that closes the gap between "handheld gaming" and "mobile gaming".

Other then the games, though, there is a 3G feature of course, social networking, I'm assuming an internet browser, ect. I realy do believe the PSV will take some of Apple's customers. Not a ton, mind you, because I'm sure the vast majority don't care about a near-portable PS3, but still. Apple does have a cause to be weary.

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You made me cry :'(

Seriously though, that sucks. I still play Logan's Shadow from time to time. I'm not surprised, even when I talk to Sony fanboys, many of them don't even know "what a Syphon Filter is", but it is still upsetting. I mean, they didn't even try a console version(on PS3). Shucks. Out of the few Sony exclusives I really liked, one is (probably) gone forever.

Oh well...I can always dream for Atlus to publish a 3D Dot Game Heroes Vita! 'Tis my third favorite PS3 exclusive, right behind Demon's Souls and MGS4.

What do I think about the PlayStation Vita?

Well, I think it's awesome. Dual analog sticks, a multi-touch screen, an OLED screen, great graphics and all that. I think it'll be great. Though I would've like if the name had more connections to the PSP. It could've been named PlayStation Por-two-ble or somethin' like that. I dunno.

When the "NGP" was first announced, I was ready to stand next to the Nintendo fanboys and insult it to heck and back, but then I realized that was dumb and useless, so I decided "Eh, what the hey, it looks amazing, I'll get it!" After all, it'd look great next to my shiny Cosmo Black 3DS, wouldn't it?

The only bad thing about it is that, well, I don't know any of the games. I never played an Uncharted game, a Little Big Planet game, or any of that since... well, I don't own a PS3 yet (still trying to find a good ol' refurbished 60GB at a reasonable price). So either once I get used to those series, or there are some other games that I am familiar with, I'll be good with the software.

Come on, this device really has a lot of potential, and it would be a waste to miss out on it. However, it and the PS3 are both $250, so, uh, Sony might want to lower the price a bit, since most would rather get a console than a handheld, at the same price... just sayin'.

^ I disagree about the price point. Either way, Sony will end up convincing some people to buy one of their products. I'm guessing those who already have a PS3 will end up jumping on the Vita 1st (people like me) and the rest will come later.

It's not a bad idea to get into Uncharted through Golden Abyss since it's set before the other games. You can get into LBP whenever, it really doesn't really matter.

Is there some reason you can't own both?

I found the last showcase at gamescom actually poorly done.

I want full console like titles. I saw the first party offerings already at E3, the resistance game was a great game to see on how the vita basically could be seen as a ps3 lite. But still i'm worried about the efforts being made and the general market.

They didn't showcase much in general at the event, only a few more games that hardly where worth it in my opinion and more of the same.

what i want to see :

- Full fletched console games that are worth the 40 euro's that i need to pay and a 250 euro device. ( with this i mean uncharted with multiplayer and not just a single player experience and be done with it for example, first party games should be off high quality )
- 3th party support is good on paper but a hell lot lesser interesting in reality, a few examples.


gravity daze:
great game, but i'm not sure if the game actually is worth its money. The floating + kicking enemy's will get old after a while. And from the demo they pushed out its not really indication if it actually is going to be a full fletched aaa title or has enough play value to be seen as a 40 euro title.

silent hill:
This is a prime example of how 3th party see and treath a protable handheld that is capable like a ******ed ios machine.
The game doesn't only looks but acts like a cheapo solution.

Tennis / fight games
they all look good and k, but hardly are worth my interest. you can play them on anything.

spider/black and white game:
While many view them as exiting new IP's i just see them as useless efforts in order to jump towards a 40 euro market with a 5 euro product. The games look cheap, look really IOSish and simple are not going to be anywhere near worth 40 euro's in my eyes which they high likely are going to cost.
Other then a fun mini game on top of it, i cant see any value in it specially with IOS already offering so much of these kind of games.

Trail motorcycle game:
again fun flash game, hardly worth my money if it costs a full price.
I already played such games for free 5 years ago on flash sites.

Other then a fun mini game on top of it, i cant see any value in it specially with IOS already offering so much of these kind of games.

What i want to see is:

- full f;etched call of duty demonstration
- full f;etched monster hunter mmo jumping on the vita
- full f;etched final fantasy/kingdom hearts game
- full f;etched survival horror games that aren't a cheap solution. like older silent hill games or even amnesia.
- i wanna see battlefield 3 run on the vita, crysis 3 port
- wanna see mmo announcements
- more bioshock and assasin creed in action ( big 3D enviromental games )
- give me rpg's with 3D worlds.

I'm dissapointed in this presentation, and this is the first time sony actually dropped the ball for me. The hardware is there, we know it. But i dont have anything on hardware if i cant do anything with it. I want to see games that are highly attractive and worth the full portable price.

I hope TSG/TGS is going to be more interesting.
If the vita isn't able to atleast pull upwards already from its launch a high number of aaa quality titles then i simple cant seem to see why i should upgrade towards this generation at all with portable gaming systems.

I hope there words are true and 3th party announcements are going to be massive at tsg/tgs, but honestly i think its just hot air mostly there. Which means more of the same etc etc. I hope i'm going to be wrong. but atm the vita is slowlee moving towards a 3DS solution. specially if they are unable to push out most of the titles mentioned at 2012 march.

1. Not every Vita title will be priced the same
2. Escape Plan and Alien Spidy will most likely be downloadable titles, and therefore, cheaper.
3. Sony's been pretty good about pricing software correctly.
4. I don't see how tacking on multiplayer is beneficial if the game doesn't need it.
5. The prices for the software were never officially announced.
6. Books of Memories was most likely a last gen handheld game ported to the Vita. Konami's pushed out plenty of good looking games for the PSP and are coming out with at least one good looking 3DS game.

Looks cool, won't beat the 3ds(Thats well known) If it has good games I might pick ti up

I'm really looking forward to what Square Enix, RockStar, and Epic Games have in store for Vita. I'm Hoping RockStar has a Gta game and a RDR port with cloud saves. Square Enix with Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, and Tomb Raider. Hopefully we will get Unreal Tournament from Epic

Kind've agree with gatygun, I want full console quality AAA games for Vita, but app style software is good in my book too.

The more and more I see the Vita, the more excited I get and the much less excited I am for the 3DS.

Not much at all I am looking forward too on the 3DS aside from some 1st Party games... I dont want a 1st party only system. I hope it gets better.

I will most likely get the releases that I want, that are available on BOTH handhelds, on the Vita instead of the 3DS. As much as gameplay matters more than graphics to me, the Vita is poised to have an abundance of BOTH.

The 3D effect really doesnt matter much to me.

I am feeling pretty much the same. However I'm not nearly as excited as I was for the 3DS at one point. If I tone down my excitement I won't feel as disappoint or I will feel even more satisfied with the device. I was very disappointed with the launch of the 3DS and almost consider it to be a mistake of a purchase. Now with all the details on the Vita, I can only hope that I get some good exclusives on the 3DS besides pokemon. I'm not exactly sold on the Vita yet though, however it's looking really good and I will probably pick one up sometime down the road.

Again, I'm not letting this topic turn into a 3DS vs. Vita debate.
Keep this garbage out of it in the future or infractions will be handed out. Final warning.

Nice try .... we are not going mad !

Getting Up Close (and Very Personal) With the PlayStation Vita

It will simply come down to this. Nintendo's first party games vs Sony's strong third party support. Third party developers will still release games on the Nintendo 3DS but I'm willing to slap a guarantee in this statement when I say that A LOT of top tier third party games will not be on the 3DS. The Vita is simply too far ahead in terms of technical specs that it would be almost laughable to see developers release their most popular franchises on the 3DS over the Vita. This will also become noticeable for popular games that will be ported down to the Vita over the 3DS. Especially sports games.

Another thing is that Sony has no shame to throw 6 to 7 figure sums at developers to make sure some titles never find themselves on a Nintendo platform. Nintendo on the other hand is not really known for using such tactics so this can favor Sony heavily.

We will see what happens once the Vita does hit but I expect 3DS to not fair as well as the DS did over the PSP.

-LatinLegacy

i dont really care which portable is the best because i'm gonna get both (3ds,vita)

the only thing i want to know if i could play my UMD games on the vita? because my psp is not working well and i dont want to buy all of my games again in the PSN store. If i buy the 3g vita but for some reason the 3g network doesn't work could you put your own wifi in it? or should i get the wifi vita?

umd is not supported by vita, buy a cheap psp handheld next to it if you wanna play the games.

Vita only supports the digital versions from psn, those are bc and playable on the vita.

3G version has also wifi. The difference between the wifi and 3g version is:

wifi version - doesn't got gps + 3g
3G version - has everything the wifi version got ( inclusive wifi ) + 3g + gps.

Can't wait to play gravity rush. Im so glad Sony left the vita Region Free.I

how much longer will this thread go on. It was supposed to be a psvita discussion thread. Not a 3ds vs psvita, with "The Video Gamer" to support it.

Then post something beneficial to the topic.

Region free? Really? (curse you Nintendo)
Anyways, since the Vita doesn't support UMD, what media will the games be in? Digital only or will there be retail versions as well?

All games will be downloadable and
for retail.

They'll be using cartridges.

Cartridges?
I did not expect that from Sony. Cool I guess.

PlayStation Vita is region free - Sony - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

I really hope there are plenty of games I can spend ~70 hours on without getting bored. Disgaea 3 and LBP Vita are a good start.

Price was probably the main issue. Sure, carts are cheap now, but not back then. If Sony used 2GB carts, the games would have been ridiculously expensive. If Sony used carts that didn't cost as much to make, many games would have been hindered (like Crisis Core) due to the limit in size.

Reason I hated the PSP. Loading times

Because Sony are on a never ending quest to create a new standard media format that they're the primary rights holder of. Their intent was to go beyond PSP games, hence the name "Universal Media Disc".

Seriously, think about all of the different media formats and how many times Sony tried to introduce their own. Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't.

The thing i really liked about the Vita is the backwards compatability.. Until i heard that there was no UMD support.That means that some of the great psp games that didn't release on PSN(KH:BBS and such) won't be playable on Vita...

Who knows, maybe they (SONY) will continue to put PSP games on PSN for us. I know I want Megaman Powered up still! I already have Maverick Hunters.

Put BBS on PSN, remove the loading times on it, and I'll buyb the Vita.

How much will vita games cost?

You know Sony has no say in that, right? Nobody's really sure why Square hasn't put it on PSN. But if the sequel to BbS does it exist, it will probably go to the Vita.

No info on it yet. But my guess would be $40. Maybe $50 but no higher than that.

And about BBS. I heard it's Disney that's holding them back from putting it on there.

Yeah, but KH is one of the few franchises that convinces me to buy new consoles. Like it did with my 3DS xD/

Rumors put the top tier games at $40. Smaller games like Great Little War game will be cheap minis. Then there's everything in between. Dragon Crown's price is $30 according to Amazon.

LOL won't beat 3ds lololol

Haha, don't worry, KH will come to the Vita eventually.

@ClippersTown
Even though it's MUCH better hardware than the 3ds, vita probably won't beat the 3ds in sales because of the price difference.

Not saying the 3ds deserves more sales...

I'd say whichever sells less, it won't be by much. Both consoles look amazing.

i think the vita is going to pass the 3ds in sales 3 months after it comes out... right now, I still think people would rather spend $250 on a vita rather than $170 on a 3ds...

All I know is... Ill be much more apt to download games on Vita knowing that my download history is saved on their servers and is tied to my screen name. I already have a bunch of downloaded PS1 games, a couple PSP games, and a couple Minis. All transferrable to my new Vita! Next year

Im sure that will change once Mario and Mario Kart are released... and when a Pokemon game releases.

I just wish they would hurry up with Paper Mario.

there is a game (modnation racer ) on ps vita , that can have any mario trakcs , and racers ....
so its no a a problem for mario kart , and for mario , idk , there are some good games on vita too...