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Old 01-02-2012, 12:48 AM
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"Im sorry in advance this might take long this is about the next generation of graphics and what you can expect from all 3 consoles and what you shouldnt expect,Some of what I talk about I have already said but I feel giving more detail and really getting down into it and will give videos.


1.The next gen engines are Unreal engine 3(the newest updates for it) Cryengine 3, and Frostbite 3. First you make say well these can already run on the consoles we have now ???? While the word run is as far as you can go these engines have been able to run on them but with heavy modification too infact force them to produce lower graphics than they was design for and even than the consoles ex.360/ps3 struggle to being able to run even in the engines gimped state.

2.(Q)What can we expect in the power of the next gen consoles?
(A) While that is a interesting question that I can go on and on with But I give a summery you have to be first aware of the price ,the power of the consoles can not go as Crazy high enough for one console to completely over power the others ,my Theory is that the power of each console is going to be close to equal.
To give a glimpse at what we can expect on all next gen consoles is this video T.l.i.t.d. WIP update #5 now in !!CRYENGINE 3!! - YouTube
This is done in Cryengine 3 one of the big engine of the next generation This is impossible to be done on consoles because of amount of lighting and etc in the video is large the computer running on it was actually lagging badly and that was I believe with AA off.
(3) (Q) But if its struggling on that computer how will the consoles run it??
(A) optimisation ,Unlike pc when a dev is working on a game for console he knows all the console he working on are the same (xbox 360 is a xbox 360 no matter who owns it.) so he can work more on it and shine it up better than he can on pc in which he has to consider the differences between each pc.
(4)(Q) So what do you think the norm for game graphics of next gen will look like??
(A) The pc version of BF3 that being said optimisation can mean alot in the long run if I was typing this in 2004 and would say the norm for console will be between Far Cry and Doom 3 pc versions and I would be wrong the norm would be alot better than that but that because the devs got better with working with the hardware on each console and that what will happen next gen with Wiiu ,Ps4,xbox 720.


This is most of what I have to say without making this into a Series I hope that helps you understand what the next gen will look like on All 3 consoles.

Edit I change doom 4 to doom 3 dont know why I was thinking doom 4
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most websites were citing the 3DS to cost $300, $50 is not what I would call "much lower" and the price of Sony's and Msoft's consoles are not directly related to the price of Nintendo consoles. to make such a connection just to justify your speculation on a lower price point for a relatively unknown product by a company that for the last decade has been selling their lower spec systems for a profit is just not logical.
GameCube $200
PS2 $300

and the GameCube was more powerful.

The only correlation Im making is to what you said. You said that the Wii U will be significantly weaker than the PS4/ 720, yet you said it will cost 400-500. You expect MS/ Sony to charge the same if they had more power?
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After the tepid launch of the 3DS, Nintendo will be careful to not overprice it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii U launched at $299 or even $250.
Don't count on it having the same price tag as the Wii. Keep in mind Iwata himself said the console wouldn't be "cheap."
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Don't count on it having the same price tag as the Wii. Keep in mind Iwata himself said the console wouldn't be "cheap."
But that statement was made BEFORE the price drop of the 3DS.

So I'm still estimating somewhere around $299-250.
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Don't count on it having the same price tag as the Wii. Keep in mind Iwata himself said the console wouldn't be "cheap."
$270 maybe. I could see that. The launch price for their home consoles have never been that far apart iirc
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GameCube $200
PS2 $300

and the GameCube was more powerful.

The only correlation Im making is to what you said. You said that the Wii U will be significantly weaker than the PS4/ 720, yet you said it will cost 400-500. You expect MS/ Sony to charge the same if they had more power?
Did you already forget E3 2011?
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GameCube $200
PS2 $300

and the GameCube was more powerful.

The only correlation Im making is to what you said. You said that the Wii U will be significantly weaker than the PS4/ 720, yet you said it will cost 400-500. You expect MS/ Sony to charge the same if they had more power?
as a matter of fact I do, case in point: PSVita.
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Did you already forget E3 2011?
oh right, the Vita. I wonder how that's going for them.
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as a matter of fact I do, case in point: PSVita.
First off I keep on trying to say this and showing why but I have to repeat myself the consoles are going to be similar in power !!!
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as a matter of fact I do, case in point: PSVita.
Is that why it's killing the 3DS right now like many claimed it would do?

Is that why the sales went through the roof on its second week, CHRISTMAS week?
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3DS probably should have gone for $200 but Nintendo overpriced it and they suffered for it.

It's safe to say that they won't be overpricing the Wii U.

So I don't think we'll have a PSV/3DS situation with the WiiU/PS4/Xbox720
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oh right, the Vita. I wonder how that's going for them.
Why are you trying to change the subject?
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Why are you trying to change the subject?
How ?
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How ?
You're trying to move it from "Sony wouldn't price their next gen console the same as the WiiU if it's significantly more powerful" to "lolol Vita sales lolol".
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How ?
By trying to make this thread into a 3DS vs PSV discussion, which is banned from this forum until the PSV has the NA launch in February.

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Come on Everybody the power of the wiiu compared to the next consoles is going to be less than the vita compared to the 360 the prices will be similar for each of them only differing maybe 80-100 dollars.
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You're trying to move it from "Sony wouldn't price their next gen console the same as the WiiU if it's significantly more powerful" to "lolol Vita sales lolol".
Errm, no. Im using the Vita sales as example, just like you used its price as an example.

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By trying to make this thread into a 3DS vs PSV discussion, which is banned from this forum until the PSV has the NA launch in February.

Not really, Im just talking sales.
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Errm, no. Im using the Vita sales as example, just like you used its price s an example.
An example of what, exactly? Of why Sony wouldn't do that? Are you saying they should have announced an even higher price at E3? That would have negatively affected sales even more.
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An example of what, exactly? Of why Sony wouldn't do that? Are you saying they should have announced an even higher price at E3? That would have negatively affected sales even more.
As an example of why I doubt they would overpower the thing. Do you not see how bad Sony is financially right now? They would be crazy to try and pull a PS3 or Vita for a 3rd time in a row.
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As an example of why I doubt they would overpower the thing. Do you not see how bad Sony is financially right now? They would be crazy to try and pull a PS3 or Vita for a 3rd time in a row.
The Vita's not really overpowered. And you were never talking about Sony making an "overpowered" system. You said:

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More power for the same price is all that matters.
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The Vita's not really overpowered. And you were never talking about Sony making an "overpowered" system. You said:



More power for the same price is all that matters.
Honestly Next gen is probably going to be whoever has the lower price will win thing considering Like I said the difference between the consoles is going to minimum in graphics .
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The Vita's not really overpowered. And you were never talking about Sony making an "overpowered" system. You said:



More power for the same price is all that matters.
What I mean is they're selling it for a loss. More power for the same price = loss, and what's stopping Nintendo from slashing the price? Do you think Nintendo will purposely over price the Wii U so MS/ Sony sell for that price, then cut the price a few months later? or do you think they will price it right, and you assume that Sony/ Microsoft will price at the same 'low' price if they have *significantly* more power?
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Honestly Next gen is probably going to be whoever has the lower price will win thing considering Like I said the difference between the consoles is going to minimum in graphics .
I don't really care about which one wins. But I don't know how far MS and Sony are willing to go with their next gen consoles especially if they don't release them for another two years.
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I don't really care about which one wins. But I don't know how far MS and Sony are willing to go with their next gen consoles especially if they don't release them for another two years.
That the thing it wont matter the power is going to be similar no matter what the largest difference would be if they released them 4 years after the wiiu.
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What I mean is they're selling it for a loss. More power for the same price = loss, and what's stopping Nintendo from slashing the price? Do you think Nintendo will purposely over price the Wii U so MS/ Sony sell for that price, then cut the price a few months later? or do you think they will price it right, and you assume that Sony/ Microsoft will price at the same 'low' price if they have *significantly* more power?
That's not inherently true. I don't see how Nintendo slashing their price has any relevancy in this conversation.

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That the thing it wont matter the power is going to be similar no matter what the largest difference would be if they released them 4 years after the wiiu.
I doubt the power difference is going to be similar. The average person probably won't be able to tell which one is the weakest, though.
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That's not inherently true. I don't see how Nintendo slashing their price has any relevancy in this conversation.
What youre saying is that they could charge the same price as the Wii U, and point to the Vita, but do you think Sony wouldve charged $170 had the 3DS started at that? They would be losing a heck load of money selling the Vita at that price, and Sony is not in a good position to do that.

Thats what Im trying to get across.

Edit: Of course, this is all assuming that PS4/ 720 are powerful, I dont think power/ graphics will be much of an issue this gen.
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What youre saying is that they could charge the same price as the Wii U, and point to the Vita, but do you think Sony wouldve charged $170 had the 3DS started at that? They would be losing a heck load of money selling the Vita at that price.

Thats what Im trying to get across.
But the point still stands. The possibility for Sony to match the WiiU's price and outmatch it in power still exists.
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With all this talk of sony and Microsoft Outmatching and obliterating the wiiu in power I want to know really how good looking are you thinking the games are going to be .
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With all this talk of sony and Microsoft Outmatching and obliterating the wiiu in power I want to know really how good looking are you thinking the games are going to be .
I don't think they're going to look substantially better than WiiU games. But there's more to power than graphics, right?
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But the point still stands. The possibility for Sony to match the WiiU's price and outmatch it in power still exists.
The possibility of them selling their game division (see: TVs / samsung) because of all the loses that would cause also exists.
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The possibility of them selling their game division (see: TVs / samsung) because of all the loses that would cause also exists.
Their gaming division is separate from their electronics division. Anyways, my point still stands.
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I don't think they're going to look substantially better than WiiU games. But there's more to power than graphics, right?
If your talking about how many character will be on screen the load times and ai you are correct but even than it will be a marginally different and that would be even harder to tell because the third party titles are going to look close to each other and perform about the same.Now the first party titles are in Theory going to stand out from the wiiu but it really matters on the creativity and careful crafting of the game in which it will still be hard to tell because each companys first party titles are going to look great as well.
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Their gaming division is separate from their electronics division. Anyways, my point still stands.
Sony is still Sony, the gaming division is not separate from Sony. Last I heard Sony is not only losing money on their game division, but their other divisions as well like their electronics.

My point still stands as well.
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Is that why it's killing the 3DS right now like many claimed it would do?

Is that why the sales went through the roof on its second week, CHRISTMAS week?
sales performance is irrelevant, the fact remains that sony offered the psvita for the same price as the 3ds(before the panic price cut) with across the charts stronger hardware
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sales performance is irrelevant, the fact remains that sony offered the psvita for the same price as the 3ds(before the panic price cut) with across the charts stronger hardware
Read above, I wont say the same thing twice.

and sales performance are not irrelevant. If the Vita doesnt sell it will flop.
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Sony is still Sony, the gaming division is not separate from Sony. Last I heard Sony is not only losing money on their game division, but their other divisions as well like their electronics.
You wanted me to look up info about their electronics division as a reason for why Sony would close down their gaming division. Like... are you serious?

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My point still stands as well.
That Nintendo can cut the price of the WiiU? Sure. But that point was never really relevant.
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You wanted me to look up info about their electronics division as a reason for why Sony would close down their gaming division. Like... are you serious?



That Nintendo can cut the price of the WiiU? Sure. But that point was never really relevant.
Their electronics division was flopping, do you think they'd keep their gaming division if it keeps reporting losses??

No, the point is:
"The possibility of them selling their game division (see: TVs / samsung) because of all the loses that would cause also exists. "
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Read above, I wont say the same thing twice.

and sales performance are not irrelevant. If the Vita doesnt sell it will flop.
it's irrelevant to the conversation between you and me, I hold no stock or position on the company so I give absolutely 0 ****s whether it prints money or it goes the way of the virtual boy.

fact: sony announced/made a product with higher specs than nintendo's new entry with a comparable price.

the discussion from the start is that nintendo would overprice the wiiU, with overpriced meaning it will be overpriced in comparison to other competitor consoles in terms of hardware specs.
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Their electronics division was flopping, do you think they'd keep their gaming division if it keeps reporting losses??
Would you cut off your right arm because your left is infected? The gaming division had one bad gen. They're not going to close it down any time soon, and if they do, it won't be because of the electronics division.

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No, the point is:
"The possibility of them selling their game division (see: TVs / samsung) because of all the loses that would cause also exists. "
But that point makes no sense. And it's pretty off topic anyways.
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it's irrelevant to the conversation between you and me, I hold no stock or position on the company so I give absolutely 0 ****s whether it prints money or it goes the way of the virtual boy.

fact: sony announced/made a product with higher specs than nintendo's new entry with a comparable price.

the discussion from the start is that nintendo would overprice the wiiU, with overpriced meaning it will be overpriced in comparison to other competitor consoles in terms of hardware specs.
The conversation is about why the Wii U will not be overpriced and how Sony would be a fool to try and sell for a huge loss by pricing whatever they have next the same as the Wii U if the Wii U was to be priced reasonably like the 3DS is now (and assuming the PS4 is actually significantly more powerful). You point to the Vita and say how sales are irrelevant, when in reality they're not. Sales matter even if you dont hold stock or whatever because without sales you get no developer support which means no games.

Here's another fact for you: Sony overpriced their memory cards inorder to recoup on some of the loses for selling it at that price.

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Would you cut off your right arm because your left is infected? The gaming division had one bad gen. They're not going to close it down any time soon, and if they do, it won't be because of the electronics division.



But that point makes no sense. And it's pretty off topic anyways.
When did I say that they will close the game division because of how the electronics division is doing? I said they will close it if it keeps reporting loses, LIKE the electronics division.

I would cut off my right arm if it was infected like the left arm.
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When comparing sony to Nintendo (particularly 3DS to Vita) you have to consider the fact that Nintendo has sites like this. Although not every member is an engraved in stone loyal Nintendo customer (some have other systems aswell [me] and some dont own a single nintnedo system) the fact that this atmosphere exists around an entire company, with fans that are practically addicted to thier products, gives Nintendo an edge. I feel Nintendo's fans that made them the video game giant in the 80's and 90's is much smaller but with the Wii they grabbed a whole new generation. They saw that thier bread and butter group of fans has thinned and took a bold move or two to ensure future fans. This involved keeping a quality to thier games that i myself have never seen falter. Nintendo may lose in the major gaming community but they have their own community so... they'll be fine with the WiiU. We've seen multiple times that the weaker hardware can often win (ps2, N64, Wii) and still present incredible games that are worth their time and money. We've also seen very capable consoles lose out at times or even fall completely (Dreamcast R.I.P.) because of a lack of games or quality. ... that settles that. As for the Wii... it had a good run, no matter what some may say i think it had a wonderful library, well worth its time and money. I wouldn't be upset if nothing significant came out of the Wii next year, or ever again. I also don't expect anything to come out of it, from what i've been told (WiiU blog, etc..) Nintendo is putting a very large amount of energy towards the WiiU to prevent another major mistake (they learned a lesson in cockyness after the 3DS launch). They know they can't just say "Look... its got a tablet... buy it" because they will be booed by even their loyalist fans if they have no quality... because they have no games nor support. I expect the Wii to come to an empty end, though im still satisfied. There are a number of wii titles i missed so i could pick those up, and they are trying to deliver on the 3DS front so Nintendo is doing surprisingly well with the situation.
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When did I say that they will close the game division because of how the electronics division is doing? I said they will close it if it keeps reporting loses, LIKE the electronics division.

I would cut off my right arm if it was infected like the left arm.
If you wanted me to see how big the gaming division's losses were, you should have told me to look up info that actually relates to the gaming division, not the electronics division. Of course if any division keeps losing money, a company should get rid of it. That's just common sense.
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The conversation is about why the Wii U will not be overpriced and how Sony would be a fool to try and sell for a huge loss by pricing whatever they have next the same as the Wii U if the Wii U was to be priced reasonably like the 3DS is now. You point to the Vita and say how sales are irrelevant, when in reality they're not. Sales matter even if you dont hold stock or whatever because without sales you get no developer support which means no games.

Here's another fact for you: Sony overpriced their memory cards inorder to recoup on some of the loses for selling it at that price.
the 3DS is priced reasonably now, at what point do you believe that you wont get ambassador program 2.0 with the WiiU?

and I said the vita sales are irrelevant to our conversation. you can get down to the complete nitty gritty of it but they will remain irrelevant as we are talking about nintendo.

can you get me a link for that little fact, that is not full of speculation.
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the 3DS is priced reasonably now, at what point do you believe that you wont get ambassador program 2.0 with the WiiU?

and I said the vita sales are irrelevant to our conversation. you can get down to the complete nitty gritty of it but they will remain irrelevant as we are talking about nintendo.

can you get me a link for that little fact, that is not full of speculation.
Yeah its reasonably priced now, just like I said. Read through that again.

What makes you beleive Nintendo would overprice the Wii U in the first place, to cause an ambassador program 2.0?

I do not need to get you any links. Its common sense, why else would they charge so much for those memory cards? Just because?
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Hmm im disappointed I was hoping to have a discussing about graphics but it seems like everybody talking about sells that disappointing my favorite debates is on Graphics not to big of a fan of sells.
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Yeah its reasonably priced now, just like I said. Read through that again.

What makes you beleive Nintendo would overprice the Wii U in the first place, to cause an ambassador program 2.0?

I do not need to get you any links. Its common sense, why else would they charge so much for those memory cards? Just because?
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and even then it was still overpriced, Nintendo is yet to be humbled enough and whatever price be it $350 (I project 400-500) will be overpriced compared to what the competitors bring, once the WiiU comes out Sony and Msoft wont be far behind and I'm willing to bet their specs for their systems will be so much higher that it will be just a repeat of the difference between PS3 and Wii.
This is never going to happen.

The only reason the Wii difference existed today is because Nintendo reused last gen components that were incompatible of working with next gen engines at the time.

The Wii U is using hardware that is capable of scaling assets built around Directx 11 (as according to EA and Crytek, next gen will focus on that).

Another thing, the Wii was also lacking in resolution that would eventually become standard (HD).

There is no resolution shift coming in the near future so it's safe to say all consoles next gen will output 1080p at max.
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Selling point - WWW.THEDAILY.COM
To add to this. Here's a new similar rumor:

Nintendo Set To Enter Realm of e-Readers | Forget The Box

It's probably just a bunch a BS. But still...

I think it's a good idea.
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It's probably just a bunch a BS. But still...

I think it's a good idea.
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It's probably just a bunch a BS. But still...

I think it's a good idea.
Sounds like that'd work great with the controller. The only thing I think though is that the media should be saved on the controller itself so that maybe you could use the controller without needing the WiiU on. You know, let it work independently for the E-reading stuff and possibly other functions.
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That just reminds me of the lonely, forgotten eReader the GBA had. I loved that little thing, with its goofy Mario Party card game, and the Game and Watch cards that never came over to the states. Not to mention swiping cards for 5 minutes just to play an NES game. Still, you were swiping cards, which made it AWESOME.
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Sounds like that'd work great with the controller. The only thing I think though is that the media should be saved on the controller itself so that maybe you could use the controller without needing the WiiU on. You know, let it work independently for the E-reading stuff and possibly other functions.
That's a really great idea, but do you really think that will happen?
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That's a really great idea, but do you really think that will happen?
It's certainly possible since it's going to have sort of battery powersupply and since the wiimotes had the ability to save miis and I think saves as well, then it's possible this would also have some sort of memory.

Or perhaps you just need the Wii in standby mode (IE off but plugged in.)
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Hm maybe if you are still in the same house, but I don't think it could function far from the console. If it could it would probably be really expensive.
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Need more info and an actual nintendo game trailer to be interested, but hey I love a new nintendo home console. Get's me more excited than handhelds. I stood in line in 6 different stores to get the wii to no avail, and finally had to pay 500 bucks online to get it. Stupid I know, but I really take these hardware launches seriously considering I will be spending 5-6 years with the thing.
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LOL.

I'm not really expecting any new information. Just more PR mumbo-jumbo from Reggie.
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I may buy it for myself eventually but right now I'm focusing on the 3DS and potentially the Vita sooo it may be awhile before I decide to get one. I'll definitely be waiting for a price drop and a good deal. Same goes for the Vita.
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Is that supposed to be impressive? I can't really tell...
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Is that supposed to be impressive? I can't really tell...
I don't know either... it's a sort of running gag in the gaming world since that was the claim the Playstation hypetrain peddled before the launch of the PS2.
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Do you see what I see?
The Wii U, the controller, a tv, possibly with either the Chicago or NYC skyline on it, and a reflection of Good Morning America.
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Do you see what I see?
I'm with Yuoke, is there something we should be paying attention to?

I gotta say, I can't wait for E3 to get some real details on the WiiU. They've got some good things in the works but we need the whole story.
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It's a picture of the Wii U at CES.

Kind of curious why it would be placed next to LG's newest 84 inch OLED tv though.
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It's a picture of the Wii U at CES.

Kind of curious why it would be placed next to LG's newest 84 inch OLED tv though.
To hook it up to the TV?
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To hook it up to the TV?
It isn't hooked up to the TV. It's just sitting there.
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It isn't hooked up to the TV. It's just sitting there.
They didn't hook it up yet, maybe......???
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Why would they want to hook it up to that TV in particular? Company's usually don't advertise other company's products, especially at a trade show like CES.
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Why would they want to hook it up to that TV in particular? Company's usually don't advertise other company's products, especially at a trade show like CES.
It's because the Wii U produces such beautiful graphics that only a cutting-edge TV can do it justice.

/wishfulthinking
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Why would they want to hook it up to that TV in particular? Company's usually don't advertise other company's products, especially at a trade show like CES.
Last time I checked though, Nintendo doesn't make TVs so whatever TV they hook it up to, it's going to be another company's product LOL.
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Last time I checked though, Nintendo doesn't make TVs so whatever TV they hook it up to, it's going to be another company's product LOL.
But its at the LG booth for their newest, cutting-edge TV. Looks like they would want the focus to be on that, right?
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But its at the LG booth for their newest, cutting-edge TV.
Maybe they're going to use the WiiU to run some sort of demo to show off what the TV can do.
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Maybe they're going to use the WiiU to run some sort of demo to show off what the TV can do.
Maybe that, but that would imply (I think) that the Wii U will have outstanding 3D visuals to really show off the TV.

It also may be a sign that LG may be making the screens of the tablet.

We should be hearing what Reggie says at CES soon, anyway.

Also expect that image to be photoshopped, LOL.
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zelda demo on 8k resolution, that would be impressive
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Maybe that, but that would imply (I think) that the Wii U will have outstanding 3D visuals to really show off the TV.

It also may be a sign that LG may be making the screens of the tablet.

We should be hearing what Reggie says at CES soon, anyway.

Also expect that image to be photoshopped, LOL.
Meh, I don't see Reggie showing off anything real. He's no company president, he's a PR man. E3 is when we will get the goods. Plus didn't they already confirm that there wouldn't be anything new at CES?
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Metroid?!?

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Just thinking, why in the hell would they take a picture with the screen at that angle?
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That TV looks really badass though

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I remember that screen. It's an old, fanmade "HD Metroid" concept screenie.

I wish we could just see some freakin' games for the thing. I can't care about a device with no games, Nintendo! Remind me; Miyamoto did say that Pikmin 3 is coming out on the Wii U, right?
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I remember that screen. It's an old, fanmade "HD Metroid" concept screenie.

I wish we could just see some freakin' games for the thing. I can't care about a device with no games, Nintendo! Remind me; Miyamoto did say that Pikmin 3 is coming out on the Wii U, right?
Yup! Pikmin 3 was moved to Wii U. Its probably safe to say that it will be a launch title.

We wont hear about games until E3. Last E3 was sort of like E3 2005. The Wii U megaton will be at this year's E3.
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I'm really curious to see if they actually have a decent amount of original titles to display. We've been hearing a lot about ports of what are admittedly great games, but I'd prefer to see something I haven't been playing since November. Pikmin will go a long way to get me excited, but I'd love to see something as crazy and new as the hardware.
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The tablet controller can be used as an X-Ray. You could see through stuff! Yeah that's a random thought... I still want WiiU to be part toaster 0_o
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System seller, right there.
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I'm really curious to see if they actually have a decent amount of original titles to display. We've been hearing a lot about ports of what are admittedly great games, but I'd prefer to see something I haven't been playing since November. Pikmin will go a long way to get me excited, but I'd love to see something as crazy and new as the hardware.
Killer Freaks From Outer Space and Lego City Stories are stand alone games.

There's also alot of untiled games in the works.
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The new WiiU console is seen during a - Media (2 of 3) Nintendo gives 2nd glimpse of Wii U game
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Well in my opinion it is definitely sexy enough to be invited into my living room. I will have enough to spare for a new console next year, still unsure if it should be the Vita or this. I can't wait for E3!
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The WiiU console looks incredibly long in the 3rd photograph.
It also looks long here:

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I guess it'll just be a long console unless they tweak it in the next few months though I don't think it bothers me.
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It's definitely looking nice, and notice that there are 2 WiiU controllers per system it seems. They're not being used at once but I noticed one of the guys is using a 2 screen split screen game and he's using a WiiU controller. Makes me wonder what the other guy is using! O.o

As for the design. If they want they could always change the name to the Nintendo Deep.
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Well, it isn't original XBox size, so it's fine
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It also looks long here:

Kotaku Goes Hands on with the Wii U Console - YouTube

I guess it'll just be a long console unless they tweak it in the next few months though I don't think it bothers me.
Man are you kidding!? No Ethernet input?!

Nintendo ****s up EVERYTHING! They have a chance to lure in core gamers and yet again **** it up!
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Man are you kidding!? No Ethernet input?!

Nintendo ****s up EVERYTHING! They have a chance to lure in core gamers and yet again **** it up!
Dude, it's probably not even the final design. Seriously though an ethernet port makes you go this berserk?
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Man are you kidding!? No Ethernet input?!

Nintendo ****s up EVERYTHING! They have a chance to lure in core gamers and yet again **** it up!
That would be the thing that would screw up everything for them?
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Man are you kidding!? No Ethernet input?!

Nintendo ****s up EVERYTHING! They have a chance to lure in core gamers and yet again **** it up!
Dude, this video was from a year ago.

Things may have changed.
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Well, I don't think they said it was the final model. Ethernet could be included by E3 2012.
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I wonder how many words I can make with 'Pachter'.

- Cheap
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I had another one, but it's inappropriate.
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Some tech demos (Same as E3) but you can see the game mechanics and control options better, along with more insight into the Zelda HD demo.

The biggest thing (As i feared) was the inclusion of a resistive single touch display. But hey, it may keep costs down and keep the price between $300-350
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Some tech demos (Same as E3) but you can see the game mechanics and control options better, along with more insight into the Zelda HD demo.

The biggest thing (As i feared) was the inclusion of a resistive single touch display. But hey, it may keep costs down and keep the price between $300-350
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I loved the people faking excitement and fun when playing the demos.

But pretty good video, does a good job of showing the capabilities of the system. I had never seen that ultra-cool Tokyo demonstration or that you could change the time between day and night in real time, as well as switch the main action between the TV and the tablet screen. There's hope for Nintendo but they need to show all of that off so much better at E3, and they're going to need a better design. This tablet looks so big and childish, it really is ugly in my opinion.
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I loved the people faking excitement and fun when playing the demos.

But pretty good video, does a good job of showing the capabilities of the system. I had never seen that ultra-cool Tokyo demonstration or that you could change the time between day and night in real time, as well as switch the main action between the TV and the tablet screen. There's hope for Nintendo but they need to show all of that off so much better at E3, and they're going to need a better design. This tablet looks so big and childish, it really is ugly in my opinion.
I expect the design to be different when we see it at E3.

Hopefully in black too, for those that rather get that color. I'm getting white to match my Wii accessories and stuff regardless.
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Wait, what about that rumor saying that Nintendo was trying to get some stuff from the App Store converted to the Wii U? How could they get a bunch of the App Store games running at all without multi-touch?
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Wait, what about that rumor saying that Nintendo was trying to get some stuff from the App Store converted to the Wii U? How could they get a bunch of the App Store games running at all without multi-touch?
They already have Cut-the-Rope and Plants versus Zombies, and Angry Birds was rumored. Most games aren't particularly reliant on multi-touch. But since resistive touch really sucks at detecting quick swipes (and gestures like that) I think they'll have a hard time getting the same nice experience as an iPad on the WiiU tablet.
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I saw a feature on a technology programme recently which was demoing some touch responsive screens, I don't remember what they were calling it but it was basically a touch screen, just like the iphone etc, but you can actually feel a click response when you press it. Even double clicking and de-clicking can apparantly be felt in the fingertips from a flat screen. It would be good if that was available for the WiiU, and Nintendo picked up on it, but I doubt that will happen.
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I saw a feature on a technology programme recently which was demoing some touch responsive screen
I've tried these from a number of suppliers. They're quite nice, although I must say the effect was strongest when accompanied with a "clicky" sound effect as feedback. Feeling a click without hearing it is somehow less convincing because you're not getting the full haptic experience.
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I haven't seen that panoramic view demo before...

Now, that was really neat!


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As much as Pachter comes across as an uninformed dudebro gamer, his remarks may be symptomatic for a fundamental problem the WiiU may face: that people/coreg4m0rz who are not following all the Nintendo news like we are will perceive the WiiU as a strange catch-up console with (again) an unconventional controller gimmick.

Nintendo's marketing team will have to work hard to get the meaning of the system between people's ears.
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First off I will start by saying Wii U is a bad idea. I think the controller will be expensive, and that will make the system expensive. If they do not have multiplayer with these controllers, it will also be complete fail.

HOWEVER, if they do indeed make a Zelda that looks like what they showed in that video, and make Wii U backwards compatible, I may pick one up anyway. I'm sure some of you guys on here know my weak point in resisting Nintendo is Zelda... and to be able to play 3 Zelda games I haven't played on one system would probably worth the purchase. Though, this is assuming I don't beat the other 2 on my .. nevermind.
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I honestly think the price will be no more than $300.
I don't think the controller is going to be that expensive
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$300 would be fine. The contoller can't be that cheap, but I don't think we've gotten any confirmation you can even use a second one, so it may not be an issue.

It will be interesting to see If PS3 + Vita get any ports, since it can basically do the same thing.
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As much as Pachter comes across as an uninformed dudebro gamer, his remarks may be symptomatic for a fundamental problem the WiiU may face: that people/coreg4m0rz who are not following all the Nintendo news like we are will perceive the WiiU as a strange catch-up console with (again) an unconventional controller gimmick.

Nintendo's marketing team will have to work hard to get the meaning of the system between people's ears.
Aren't those uninformed lot the same that bought the Wii in the first place? They didn't seem to mind the "gimmick" controller.
I think the only people that WON"T buy the Wii U will be people that game solely on PC or solely on one of the "HD twins". Once there is a Mario game that is--"HD FOR THE FIRST TIME!" people will flock to it.

I would like to ask those who think the Wii U will flop:Why do you think this? If you can summarize it for me please...
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I would like to ask those who think the Wii U will flop:Why do you think this? If you can summarize it for me please...
I am not impressed by the gimmick, and I think less people will be impressed by it than the Wii. A large portion of Wii fans probably don't even care about HD graphics. I see almost no way they can repeat Wii's success, because the Wii will probably be cheaper, and still better for casuals. I don't think it will fail, that's like saying the PSP failed, it just won't have Wii's or 3DS's success.

It looks like it will be releasing by itself though, so it could have a pretty nice spot in the market.
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I am not impressed by the gimmick, and I think less people will be impressed by it than the Wii. A large portion of Wii fans probably don't even care about HD graphics. I see almost no way they can repeat Wii's success, because the Wii will probably be cheaper, and still better for casuals. I don't think it will fail, that's like saying the PSP failed, it just won't have Wii's or 3DS's success.

It looks like it will be releasing by itself though, so it could have a pretty nice spot in the market.
Okay this I agree with. I don't think it will be as popular as the Wii, but I feel like the Wii was kind of special, like it came at a perfect time with a perfect set of things falling into place perfectly. Like the Beatles. I think it will be hard for any home console to match this success...like pretty much ever.


Then again who knows? Did you think the Wii would be a selling powerhouse? We never know what will happen.
I thought the 3ds would sell well on it's first few months, but I was wrong. I just hope Nintendo has success because they nurture my nostalgic hole.
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I certainly don't claim to know :P. Just guessing, about as good as anyone can do, including Patcher.

I would have thought Vita would have sold like hot cakes in Japan already.
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Okay this I agree with. I don't think it will be as popular as the Wii, but I feel like the Wii was kind of special, like it came at a perfect time with a perfect set of things falling into place perfectly. Like the Beatles.
What? The Beatles? I don't hear many people feeling completely ashamed of buying Beatles music, whereas most gamers look back at buying the Wii as one of the biggest mistakes they made as a gamer. I don't know of any person in my circle of friends where the Wii has not been gathering dust ever since the fun of Wii sports wore off...
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That's how Wii was for my friends as well. 3 Wii's, all covered in dust, but after the first month of SSBB to be fair.
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What? The Beatles? I don't hear many people feeling completely ashamed of buying Beatles music, whereas most gamers look back at buying the Wii as one of the biggest mistakes they made as a gamer. I don't know of any person in my circle of friends where the Wii has not been gathering dust ever since the fun of Wii sports wore off...
What? Who is ashamed for buying a Wii?
That's ridiculous. Why would you feel ashamed for owning a gaming console? Who would make fun of you?
"Ahh, you're such a *****, you bought the Wii!"
LOL

My wii is covered in dust as well, but I'm not ashamed of having or purchasing it.

The same goes for my Beatles cd's. I only listen to them every once in a while.
but that's besides the point,

maybe the Wii is more like...?
idk what do you think?
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I am not impressed by the gimmick, and I think less people will be impressed by it than the Wii. A large portion of Wii fans probably don't even care about HD graphics. I see almost no way they can repeat Wii's success, because the Wii will probably be cheaper, and still better for casuals. I don't think it will fail, that's like saying the PSP failed, it just won't have Wii's or 3DS's success.

It looks like it will be releasing by itself though, so it could have a pretty nice spot in the market.
The reason why you're not impressed is because it's not a gimmick it's just practical. Like having on a map on the screen or putting the HUD on it leaving the TV free. Also being able to continue a game when others want to watch TV. And that thing you call a gimmick is exactly what will pull the Wii crowd in, not high definition. They'll love the idea and, since it apparently will have an app store they can stick in Angry Birds and some stuff for the also rumoured e-book reader and boom, casual fans on board.

Now this how it can expand on the Wii's install base. Since theory above they shift most of those casual gamers over to it while pulling in a completely new audience to add to those numbers, the hardcore audience. With it having better graphics the then PS3 and 360 plus adding practicalities anf even innovation to games through the new controller coupled with a great, flexible online system and I think it can pull that hardcore audience.

This mean would having most of the 90 million sales from Wii plus a good chunk of sales the 100 million PS3/360 userbase which adds to together for better sales then the Wii. I'm not saying this will definitely happen but if Nintendo can get all these things right then it can happen and that would mean bigger sales than the Wii.
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What's wrong with using the resistive touch screen? A capacitive multitouch screen isn't really practical when the controller has so many buttons and control sticks. It's like the bottom 3DS screen, you are going to only be using your thumbs on it, not all of your fingers. Plus resistive touch screens are more accurate.

Would something like this be feasible on a capacitive touch screen like an IPad:

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What's wrong with using the resistive touch screen? A capacitive multitouch screen isn't really practical when the controller has so many buttons and control sticks. It's like the bottom 3DS screen, you are going to only be using your thumbs on it, not all of your fingers. Plus resistive touch screens are more accurate.

Would something like this be feasible on a capacitive touch screen like an IPad:
Making a resistant screen knocks out potential ideas. I think the idea of two people playing small simple games using the same controller sounds pretty cool. They could use a capacitive multitouch screen to play something like Pong or Table Tennis on the controller for example.
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Resistive touch is simply inferior in many ways... it doesn't register most swipes and gestures properly, you can't do drag&drop most of the time. You have to press instead of touch and it just feels less qualitative than a nice glass captouch screen.

The only reason Nintendo chose resistive touch is because it's so much cheaper (there's a reason only inferior low-end Chinese tablets come with resistive screens and every upmarket tablet has capacitive).

Also, yes you draw on capacitive tablets without problems, and I use my iPad for writing (notetaking) and sketching every day. A capacitive stylus doesn't cost more than $3 (Universal Touchpad Stylus Pen + Ballpoint Pen for Tablet PC/Cell Phone - Silver - Free Shipping - DealExtreme) and then you can do things like this:

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(Autodesk Sketchbook Pro 2, for iPad)

Plenty of my product design colleagues actually do stuff like that on their iPads...

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^ This reminds me of the fact that WiiU needs a pressure sensitive touch-screen or else a drawing app is completely pointless. That Link drawing couldn't be done with varying pressure.
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Resistive touch is simply inferior in many ways... it doesn't register most swipes and gestures properly, you can't do drag&drop most of the time. You have to press instead of touch and it just feels less qualitative than a nice glass captouch screen.

The only reason Nintendo chose resistive touch is because it's so much cheaper (there's a reason only inferior low-end Chinese tablets come with resistive screens and every upmarket tablet has capacitive).

Also, yes you draw on capacitive tablets without problems, and I use my iPad for writing (notetaking) and sketching every day. A capacitive stylus doesn't cost more than $3 (Universal Touchpad Stylus Pen + Ballpoint Pen for Tablet PC/Cell Phone - Silver - Free Shipping - DealExtreme) and then you can do things like this:

SketchBook Pro 2 for iPad - YouTube

(Autodesk Sketchbook Pro 2, for iPad)

Plenty of my product design colleagues actually do stuff like that on their iPads...

I have a stylus for my IPad also, but it just doesn't feel as precise as I would like it to.

I agree that capacitive touch screens have more potential uses, but I don't think that the lack of one is a deal breaker in this situation. Physical buttons takes away some of the need for a capacitive touch screen, in my opinion.
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I'm not a big fan of gyro controls- they make me dizzy and off-balance; they really aren't fun for me.
The Wii U controller is gyro controlled, resistant touch-screen, and is quite bulky and awkward.
Yup, not a great showing for me.
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The reason why you're not impressed is because it's not a gimmick it's just practical. Like having on a map on the screen or putting the HUD on it leaving the TV free. Also being able to continue a game when others want to watch TV. And that thing you call a gimmick is exactly what will pull the Wii crowd in, not high definition. They'll love the idea and, since it apparently will have an app store they can stick in Angry Birds and some stuff for the also rumoured e-book reader and boom, casual fans on board.

Now this how it can expand on the Wii's install base. Since theory above they shift most of those casual gamers over to it while pulling in a completely new audience to add to those numbers, the hardcore audience. With it having better graphics the then PS3 and 360 plus adding practicalities anf even innovation to games through the new controller coupled with a great, flexible online system and I think it can pull that hardcore audience.

This mean would having most of the 90 million sales from Wii plus a good chunk of sales the 100 million PS3/360 userbase which adds to together for better sales then the Wii. I'm not saying this will definitely happen but if Nintendo can get all these things right then it can happen and that would mean bigger sales than the Wii.
Agreed with the hud part. I know people just love to call everything a 'gimmick' until they actually show the practical applications. And a touch screen as several depending on the game. Right now I see most devs doing like how Nintendo did with Ocarina on the 3DS, moving information you would have on screen instead on the touch screen. Map, health, inventory, etc. Even though it's a minor change, it's a very nice one that improves the interface.

Then there are games that can REALLY take advantage of it, such as things like sports games where you could actually draw out formations, play strategies, etc. Racing games to use as a rear view mirror. Of course all of these can be used on a regular controller but slower and not as streamlined.

Then there are tactical online FPS games that involve directing other team members. There was a game on the PS3 called MAG which would have been PERFECT for the WiiU controller. On there the best you could do was put down points on the map where you wanted people to go. With the touch screen you could actually draw out path ways and directions. It's things like this that I think the controller has the most potential for. Tasks that would just be too cumbersome or take too much time with dual analogues. Also in the game you would call in air strikes but to do so you would have to open up a screen and go through the map to look for your target. The problem was that it took up the whole screen on the TV so you could easily end up getting shanked while trying to get the perfect position. With having all of that on the controller it helps you see what's going on in front of you while still doing more commander type functions.

Then of course there are the things that more casual gamers would enjoy such as using the controller for games like chess or other board games. I also gotta say, the idea of being able to watch my favorite shows while playing a console game is freaking AWESOME!
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I always hated having a 2nd screen be taken up by a map, this is exactly why I hated the DS. The 3DS makes up for it by having enough pros for me to ignore it.
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The whole "lolgimmickgimmickgimmicklol" is getting OLD. Honestly, the word is so overused now. It's hard to take anyone who uses it seriously.

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I'm pretty sure the 3DS has a pressure sensitive screen as well.
The Wii U's screen is probably going to be pressure sensitive.

Impressions about the controller.
What Nintendo has designed here is a thing of beauty.
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The whole "lolgimmickgimmickgimmicklol" is getting OLD. Honestly, the word is so overused now. It's hard to take anyone who uses it seriously.
Was this directed towards me? ;-;

I don't care if people think it's a gimmick- I just don't like the controller, gimmick or not.
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Was this directed towards me? ;-;

I don't care if people think it's a gimmick- I just don't like the controller, gimmick or not.
Anyone who uses it really.

It gets annoying to have to read the same word over and over and over again on every gaming-related site that I visit.
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Anyone who uses it really.

It gets annoying to have to read the same word over and over and over again on every gaming-related site that I visit.
Perhaps because there is a little truth to it. I'm not saying gimmick is always the right term for things though. For example, I keep hearing people say 3D is a gimmick, and since its completely optional its more of a bonus. Something that is forced upon you and is not the norm could easily be considered a gimmick, things like dual screens, motion controls, or a tablet.
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Anyone who uses it really.

It gets annoying to have to read the same word over and over and over again on every gaming-related site that I visit.
There might be something to it, if literally everybody considers it a gimmick, no?
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The problem is that everyone misuses the word.
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The problem is that everyone misuses the word.
Not everyone, clearly some people are using it correctly, and some people are using it incorrectly.
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Perhaps because there is a little truth to it. I'm not saying gimmick is always the right term for things though. For example, I keep hearing people say 3D is a gimmick, and since its completely optional its more of a bonus. Something that is forced upon you and is not the norm could easily be considered a gimmick, things like dual screens, motion controls, or a tablet.
You forgot touch screens, back slide pads, and proprietary memory cards
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3D is a gimmick, touchscreen controls are a gimmick, motion controls are a gimmick, HD is a gimmick, online multiplayer is a gimmick
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3D is a gimmick, touchscreen controls are a gimmick, motion controls are a gimmick, HD is a gimmick, online multiplayer is a gimmick
Gimmicks. Gimmicks everywhere.
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There might be something to it, if literally everybody on internet gaming forums considers it a gimmick, no?
Fixed.

No. It's the most common word used among trolls and fanboys to deride the console that they do not like. It's been applied to the 3DS, Wii U, PSV, Kinect...

I'm getting tired of seeing the word. /rant

Anyway....

Some stuff from CNN, I don't think has been posted yet.
Iwata: Wii U unites divided gaming world - CNN.com
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Fixed.

No. It's the most common word used among trolls and fanboys to deride the console that they do not like. It's been applied to the 3DS, Wii U, PSV, Kinect...

I'm getting tired of seeing the word. /rant

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But it's also used objectively as well. Just because some people use the word to bash something doesn't mean everyone does. Even if the fanboys do that, a gimmick is a gimmick, you have to accept it and move on.

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You forgot touch screens, back slide pads, and proprietary memory cards
Yeah of course, if they are forced upon you. Most games do not do that on PS Vita, so far most have options. Either way you kind of have to expect such things from a system on launch.


The memory cards comment doesn't even make sense.
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Fixed.

No. It's the most common word used among trolls and fanboys to deride the console that they do not like. It's been applied to the 3DS, Wii U, PSV, Kinect...

I'm getting tired of seeing the word. /rant

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Some stuff from CNN, I don't think has been posted yet.
Iwata: Wii U unites divided gaming world - CNN.com
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CNN one was very interesting.
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Yeah of course, if they are forced upon you. Most games do not do that on PS Vita, so far most have options. Either way you kind of have to expect such things from a system on launch.


The memory cards comment doesn't even make sense.
"Something that is forced upon you and is not the norm could easily be considered a gimmick"

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the memory cards are 'forced' upon you as is the touch screen since the main menu is touch screen compatible only. Is this not true?

Wait so how can we expect it for the Vita at launch but not the WiiU when it hasn't even been released? Hmmmm.......something smells like a double standard.
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But it's also used objectively as well. Just because some people use the word to bash something doesn't mean everyone does. Even if the fanboys do that, a gimmick is a gimmick, you have to accept it and move on.
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3D is a gimmick, touchscreen controls are a gimmick, motion controls are a gimmick, HD is a gimmick, online multiplayer is a gimmick
That's the problem. Everything is a gimmick. They can be good or they can be bad, but just saying something is a "gimmick" doesn't really carry any meaning at all.
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Touch Screen is standard these days, I also said that didn't I? Having a touch screen for menus is about as common as you can get these days, nothing gimmicky about that.

And the memory card doesn't make any sense because that's hardware storage, it has nothing to do with how you play the game.

and just because Wii U will have a gimmick doesn't make it bad, but its still a gimmick, just like the rear touchpad. Gimmick does not = bad, especially when its a bonus or optional.
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Touch Screen is standard these days, I also said that didn't I? Having a touch screen for menus is about as common as you can get these days, nothing gimmicky about that.

And the memory card doesn't make any sense because that's hardware storage, it has nothing to do with how you play the game.

and just because Wii U will have a gimmick doesn't make it bad, but its still a gimmick, just like the rear touchpad. Gimmick does not = bad, especially when its a bonus or optional.
Dude I'm just going off what YOU said was a gimmick.

"Something that is forced upon you and is not the norm could easily be considered a gimmick"

Touch screen main menu: *Checks PS3, PSP, 360* Nope, all of those use regular controller controls for the main menu, no touch screen only interface. So it's not in the norm. There is also no alternative so by your logic it can be considered a gimmick.

The proprietary memory card may not have to do with gameplay but it's a hardware decision that is forced on you and every game you play and it's is once again not in the norm. Internal storage is the new norm. So again it would count under your understanding of a gimmick.
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You only picked and chose what you wanted, and touch screen interface has been normal awhile now thanks to the DS. Even the game.com had touch menus. You can't just pick and choose what you want. Portable phones, all touch.... so I'd say yeah a good amount of portable devices ( almost all ) these days are touch. The Vita is not a console, you aren't even comparing the right devices.

I'm not responding to your memory card comments because there is no argument to be had. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

I also had a few posts that covered what could be considered gimmicks, not just one. You need to stop being so defensive, don't act like gimmick is a bad word. That goes for others on here as well.
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You only picked and chose what you wanted, and touch screen interface has been normal awhile now thanks to the DS. Even the game.com had touch menus. You can't just pick and choose what you want. Portable phones, all touch.... so I'd say yeah a good amount of portable devices ( almost all ) these days are touch. The Vita is not a console, you aren't even comparing the right devices.

I'm not responding to your memory card comments because there is no argument to be had. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

I also had a few posts that covered what could be considered gimmicks, not just one. You need to stop being so defensive, don't act like gimmick is a bad word. That goes for others on here as well.
I didn't say gimmick was bad or good, I'm just saying if you're going to try and state what is and is not a gimmick then at least stand by it.

I'm comparing gaming devices to other gaming devices, I don't see the problem, especially when you're trying to compare a Vita to a phone. Last time I checked it was a hell of a lot closer to a gaming device than a phone. I'm saying that among gaming devices, touch only interface is FAR from normal.

There is no argument to be had because according to you a proprietary memory card fits your definition of a gimmick.

So I'll say once again, you missed touch screens, back slide pads and proprietary memory cards when you listed all the gimmicks.
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I didn't say gimmick was bad or good, I'm just saying if you're going to try and state what is and is not a gimmick then at least stand by it.

I'm comparing gaming devices to other gaming devices, I don't see the problem, especially when you're trying to compare a Vita to a phone. Last time I checked it was a hell of a lot closer to a gaming device than a phone. I'm saying that among gaming devices, touch only interface is FAR from normal.

There is no argument to be had because according to you a proprietary memory card fits your definition of a gimmick.

So I'll say once again, you missed touch screens, back slide pads and proprietary memory cards when you listed all the gimmicks.
See what you are doing here is taking a statement I made, which a logical thinker would understand, and intentionally going out of his way to try and get me to make a bunch "*'s" for dummies. If your goal was to do this, congrats, you win, but you know what I meant. I am not going to go into detail on the subject for non-logical thinkers who won't understand what it means to gaming specifically.

Congrats, you win the you didn't spend all day clarifying for people who can't understand a concept with out it needing to be explained in perfect detail award.

And yes, touch controls are still standard on portable devices, which PS Vita is. PS Vita is not a console, it a is a portable device.

and of course front and rear touch is a gimmick, a nice optional one, just the way I like it. glad we can agree.
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Isn't a gimmick meant to trick the consumer? Like you can only determine it was a gimmick because it ended up being useless and didn't add to the experience.
So how was the wii controller a gimmick? And how is the wii u controller a gimmick? Nintendo isn't tricking people into buying their consoles, that is just how the console works. If you buy an iMac do you consider the wireless keyboard and mouse a gimmick? Or do you consider an electric car a gimmick? What about the controller for any gaming console after the third generation of consoles, do you consider those gimmicks? What about the rumble pack or dual analog? Maybe wireless Internet is a gimmick? Maybe a remote control for a tv is a gimmick. By most of the gimmickers logic all of these things are gimmicks as well. Hmm maybe color tv is a gimmick, or hd resolution.
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Sounds like a gimmick to me. It's not a trick, its unique, or different. That's not a bad thing, so I wouldn't sweat it.
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Hm it just seems like a lot of people are using it in a negative way. And even some of the definitions in dictionaries use gimmick in a negative way.
I don't think innovation is a gimmick. I think innovation is a good thing and a gimmick is something like something that tries to get you to buy the product but doesn't really do much for you.
I don't see the wii u controller as a gimmick because my definition of a gimmick doesn't fit it.

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But honestly, I'm tired of seeing the word, and obviously everyone disagrees so maybe would could change the subject? Maybe?
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Any chance we can go back to talking about the Wii U?

Anyways when it was first revealed I thought meh. But now I'm starting to think of all the interesting ways devs can utilize the controller. I hope they don't just use it to throw a big 'ol map on it and call it a day.

Im not 100% convinced, but my interest is piqued.

Things I wanna see:

3rd party support, and not just year old ports of games I've already played

Good online. No more FC's please. Messaging, voice chat, all that jazz.

jRPG's. Don't think any have been revealed, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Fighters. Its getting Tekken so it's off to a good start.
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Anyone who uses it really.

It gets annoying to have to read the same word over and over and over again on every gaming-related site that I visit.
It's really just a word used for the lazy who don't want to adequately explain their distaste for something.
I think the PSVita is quite interesting, the touch screen is a nice touch, and the 3D for Nintendo is cool too.
I know I'm a hypocrite for having the Wii U a gimmick system, but I believe it's just is trying to do so much.
I feel Nintendo is attempting to do too much for one system, and I think it ruins my overall perception of the system.
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Any chance we can go back to talking about the Wii U?

Anyways when it was first revealed I thought meh. But now I'm starting to think of all the interesting ways devs can utilize the controller. I hope they don't just use it to throw a big 'ol map on it and call it a day.

Im not 100% convinced, but my interest is piqued.

Things I wanna see:

3rd party support, and not just year old ports of games I've already played

Good online. No more FC's please. Messaging, voice chat, all that jazz.

jRPG's. Don't think any have been revealed, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Fighters. Its getting Tekken so it's off to a good start.
I had this idea where a game (like Zelda) could use the touch screen as a real time inventory bag. You set the tablet up on your table with all of you inventory in it. When you want to pull out, lets say bombs, you point your wii-mote at the tablet and drag the bombs from the tablet to the TV. Same thing for the Bow and Arrow, hookshot, or anything. It would even work for a Resident Evil game. I know some people might not like taking their eye off the action to go through the inventory and I know lolmotiongaming but I think it is a cool idea that would really make the player feel immersed in the game. There are LOTS of potential ideas that developers could do with the tablet, and I really hope that it's going to be used for more than maps or HUD-replacements.
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I had this idea where a game (like Zelda) could use the touch screen as a real time inventory bag. You set the tablet up on your table with all of you inventory in it. When you want to pull out, lets say bombs, you point your wii-mote at the tablet and drag the bombs from the tablet to the TV. Same thing for the Bow and Arrow, hookshot, or anything. It would even work for a Resident Evil game. I know some people might not like taking their eye off the action to go through the inventory and I know lolmotiongaming but I think it is a cool idea that would really make the player feel immersed in the game. There are LOTS of potential ideas that developers could do with the tablet, and I really hope that it's going to be used for more than maps or HUD-replacements.
I think I see what your saying, might have to see a visual representation to fully understand the set up.(not asking you to draw one)

I never had a problem with motion controlled gaming so long as it's well implemented. Hope the Wii U comes with a wiimote +.
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I had this idea where a game (like Zelda) could use the touch screen as a real time inventory bag. You set the tablet up on your table with all of you inventory in it. When you want to pull out, lets say bombs, you point your wii-mote at the tablet and drag the bombs from the tablet to the TV. Same thing for the Bow and Arrow, hookshot, or anything. It would even work for a Resident Evil game. I know some people might not like taking their eye off the action to go through the inventory and I know lolmotiongaming but I think it is a cool idea that would really make the player feel immersed in the game. There are LOTS of potential ideas that developers could do with the tablet, and I really hope that it's going to be used for more than maps or HUD-replacements.
That's a cool idea, better than my idea of just having the tablet in your lap, which is still what I expect. I can't wait to see what some of the developers are going to do with this!
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Some guy who went to CES got some footage of the Tokyo Street demo and the Zelda HD demo, which both feature real-time graphics. Keep in mind that they were made with the underpowered dev kits, and that they're not representative of what the U can really do.

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Some guy who went to CES got some footage of the Tokyo Street demo and the Zelda HD demo, which both feature real-time graphics. Keep in mind that they were made with the underpowered dev kits, and that they're not representative of what the U can really do.

Was Wii U "Second" Controller compatible with Wii U confirmed or working on it?

In that case... Go at 10 second. (0:09-0:10), and you will see second Wii U controller streaming Tokyo Demo too.
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So the wii u controller will also display HD quality graphics?
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So the wii u controller will also display HD quality graphics?
The Wii U's screen technically does not have HD resolution (like the PSV). But due to its smaller size it pretty much looks like "HD".

In short, I've read nothing but positive things about the Wii U's screen.
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Unfortunately, we still don't know when the console will be released or how much it will cost, but even as someone who has spent a considerable amount of time away from their Wii, Nintendo's next console has me eagerly anticipating what the company has up its sleeve.
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Agreed with the hud part. I know people just love to call everything a 'gimmick' until they actually show the practical applications. And a touch screen as several depending on the game. Right now I see most devs doing like how Nintendo did with Ocarina on the 3DS, moving information you would have on screen instead on the touch screen. Map, health, inventory, etc. Even though it's a minor change, it's a very nice one that improves the interface.

Then there are games that can REALLY take advantage of it, such as things like sports games where you could actually draw out formations, play strategies, etc. Racing games to use as a rear view mirror. Of course all of these can be used on a regular controller but slower and not as streamlined.

Then there are tactical online FPS games that involve directing other team members. There was a game on the PS3 called MAG which would have been PERFECT for the WiiU controller. On there the best you could do was put down points on the map where you wanted people to go. With the touch screen you could actually draw out path ways and directions. It's things like this that I think the controller has the most potential for. Tasks that would just be too cumbersome or take too much time with dual analogues. Also in the game you would call in air strikes but to do so you would have to open up a screen and go through the map to look for your target. The problem was that it took up the whole screen on the TV so you could easily end up getting shanked while trying to get the perfect position. With having all of that on the controller it helps you see what's going on in front of you while still doing more commander type functions.

Then of course there are the things that more casual gamers would enjoy such as using the controller for games like chess or other board games. I also gotta say, the idea of being able to watch my favorite shows while playing a console game is freaking AWESOME!
I agree it's just because he called the controller a gimmick and I wanted to point out all the things it can do that aren't blatantly aren't gimmicks.
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Then there are tactical online FPS games that involve directing other team members. There was a game on the PS3 called MAG which would have been PERFECT for the WiiU controller. On there the best you could do was put down points on the map where you wanted people to go. With the touch screen you could actually draw out path ways and directions. It's things like this that I think the controller has the most potential for. Tasks that would just be too cumbersome or take too much time with dual analogues. Also in the game you would call in air strikes but to do so you would have to open up a screen and go through the map to look for your target. The problem was that it took up the whole screen on the TV so you could easily end up getting shanked while trying to get the perfect position. With having all of that on the controller it helps you see what's going on in front of you while still doing more c!
Being a huge MAG fan ( Platted it ), I can see this being pretty awesome, however, I don't see many games like MAG coming to Wii U, personally.
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Beyond3D Forum - View Single Post - B3D: A speculative look on the Wii U GPU

Supposedly, few other people that would know have also said similar things.
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Beyond3D Forum - View Single Post - B3D: A speculative look on the Wii U GPU

Supposedly, few other people that would know have also said similar things.
NICE.

I really wish Nintendo would release more info. :/
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So was the conference on the 26th ever actually confirmed? Because if it is I'm sure they will say SOMETHING about the Wii U. They need to feed the sharks.
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Yoshinori Ono: Wii U ofrecer? "caracter?sticas nunca vistas y excitantes para los jugadores"

Anyone want to translate? (Don't use google)
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I still dislike the Wii controller, but I think we can all agree on one thing...

Gimmick Wii U Controller >

Awkward Nintendo 64 Controller
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Being a huge MAG fan ( Platted it ), I can see this being pretty awesome, however, I don't see many games like MAG coming to Wii U, personally.
Not from Nintendo, but DICE already talked about Battlefield 3 on the WiiU and how they would take advantage of it for things like what MAG did.

Personally I could see a third party taking the MAG idea and basically refining it without all the bull**** and fail of Zipper.

I know me and my clanmates would jump on a better version of the MAG scenario.
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I still dislike the Wii controller, but I think we can all agree on one thing...

Gimmick Wii U Controller >

Awkward Nintendo 64 Controller
Maybe, but definitely this for sure.
> than all
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Maybe, but definitely this for sure.
> than all
Ten years later and the pimpin purple controller is still damn sexy. I still think it was the best controller ever made, that thing just melted and conformed to my hands perfectly.
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Ten years later and the pimpin purple controller is still damn sexy. I still think it was the best controller ever made, that thing just melted and conformed to my hands perfectly.
I agree; it's one of the best controllers available for any system.
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gamecube controller has a bad button layout, awful d-pad and crappy c stick

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gamecube controller has a bad button layout, awful d-pad and crappy c stick

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Is that the audience Nintendo is targeting with the Wii U? -_-
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i hope you're not saying you like the gamecube's d-pad or c stick

i don't know how that's even possible
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Is that the audience Nintendo is targeting with the Wii U? -_-
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Also, this is the best Nintendo controller:

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i hope you're not saying you like the gamecube's d-pad or c stick

i don't know how that's even possible
I guess it's possible, because I do.

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Also, this is the best Nintendo controller:

Good thing that's at least compatible with the Wii U, since the GC controller isn't.
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Gamecube's d-pad was horrendous. What makes you think it was good?
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The c-stick is the gamecube's only flaw.

It is the yolk of an unhatched analog stick.

Other than that, it is perfection to me.
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Gamecube's d-pad was horrendous. What makes you think it was good?
Ok, then the d-pad might not be great. I still love the controller though.
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Also, this is the best Nintendo controller:

It is light, cheap feeling, had non-clickable analog sticks and it had to be connected to the Wiimote. Saddest best controller ever.
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I'm kind of getting excited. I think the Wii U will redeem itself.
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It's confirmed! Nintendo has ninjas!!!!!

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It's confirmed! Nintendo has ninjas!!!!!

Now we need a Nintendo 1st party ninja game for launch.
Nintendo Assassins: Leaker Massacre

OH AND ALSO

Wii U ‘Twice As Powerful As Xbox 360′ Claims Develop Source | My Nintendo News

Plus rumors are spreading from an IGN source that says the NextBox will be 20% more powerful than the Wii U, so the Wii U won't be incredibly under powered.
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I posted the original article earlier and everyone ignored it:
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LOL
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http://www.amazon.com/Hori-Nintendo-.../dp/B002KN4SUI

You can use this if you dont like the classic controller pro. Its like a GCN controller, but it'll detect it as a CCP
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It is light, cheap feeling, had non-clickable analog sticks and it had to be connected to the Wiimote. Saddest best controller ever.
Lightness is a positive.
I don't really get the "cheap feeling" when playing it.
No other Nintendo controller has clickable analogs.
Being connected to the Wiimote is still better than being tethered to a console, like all the other controllers posted so far.
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Yes, please do.
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Wiinfiniti
Wii

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Wii

Please Please Please
∞ will be the next Xbox name. I'm calling it.
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Wiinfiniti
Wii

Please Please Please
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To be honest, those names sound better than just Wii.
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Honestly, I hope they don't reuse the Wii name at all.

I still like Revolution, Nintendo Six (N6), and Master Nintendo Entertainment System.
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Honestly, I hope they don't reuse the Wii name at all.

I still like Revolution, Nintendo Six (N6), and Master Nintendo Entertainment System.
I agree.
They shouldn't really reuse a name because a news organization like Fox might think it's just a new model. XD
Seriously though, this happens all the time; a console gets a rename months before its launch.
The reason the Revolution was named the Wii, I believe, is because of the XBox 360 name.
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Honestly, I hope they don't reuse the Wii name at all.

I still like Revolution, Nintendo Six (N6), and Master Nintendo Entertainment System.
But Wiinfiniti has "win" in it.

win + infinity = infinitely winning
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But Wiinfiniti has "win" in it.

win + infinity = infinitely winning
Then I'd just call it the Winfiniti and forget about the Wii entirely...
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But Wiinfiniti has "win" in it.

win + infinity = infinitely winning

^Possible promoter.
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Uhhhhm, guyz

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They're supposedly changing the name because of the confusion of the 3DS with the DS, so it won't have Wii in the title at all if this is true.

Nintendo Experience
Nintendo Power
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Something like that, just no Wii please -_-
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Uhhhhm, guyz

Nintendo Considering Renaming Wii U? | My Nintendo News

They're supposedly changing the name because of the confusion of the 3DS with the DS, so it won't have Wii in the title at all if this is true.

Nintendo Experience
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Something like that, just no Wii please -_-
Nintendo didn't say that they're getting rid of the Wii branding- they just want a name that's won't easily confuse consumers.

(I still have my heart set on Wiinfiniti).
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I called the name change from the start, and revolution seems most likely considering that was the original wii name.
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Has this already been posted?

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E3 will be pretty interesting....
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Dont think so, but I do think nintendo will show something that impresses us. Idk about the WiiU yet, I really would love to play games with the touch screen as it is handy
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Not the IGN article, but I posted the source yesterday and almost everyone ignored it.

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LOL
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I know I will be getting the Wii U, or what ever it is going to be called
Can't really see myself missing out on
Mario Land
Super Smash Bro's
Mario Kart
Pikmin
Zelda
Possible Kid Icurus (if 3ds title does well)

.... Nah not gonna miss out on that lot.
Might get it day one, but more likey it will be under the Christmas tree

Ithink It will be called the Nintendo U
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Hahahahaha in the ign article they wrote E3 2010
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Not the IGN article, but I posted the source yesterday and almost everyone ignored it.



LOL
And then I posted it again and everyone payed attention.

Zuperman > logitech
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I might get it, but I'm most likely going to wait awhile. (This year I'm getting an expensive gaming laptop, so no chance of both.) Hopefully by next year there will be some good games to play.
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I wonder what Ono meant by it'll be "radically different"...? What does Nintendo have under teir sleeves? E3 can't come fast enough.

Regarding the potential name change - Wiivolution. That is all.
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I'm saving up for a gaming PC right now, but maybe in a year or two. Probably whenever the next smash bros comes out.
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A new change would be nice, though they'll have to do more than that to convince me to buy it.
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Tweets about Wii U from investor conference:

-WiiU before xmas, have prepared appropriate titles for launch, WiiU will have NFC* (enabling easy settlement and figurine connection)
-The NFC will be planned internationally for easy settlement too
-Still planning offering DLC but need more time to do more feasability study on market and needs
-WiiU will have individual account system rather than previous per hardware, hence several users per hardware unit
-Have built pillar for digital and are now able to take risks. We think once we are done and the bottlenecks are removed we can change perceptions
-Digital will include user to user communications and sharing

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Wii 2. Please just call it the Wii 2.

Every time I hear the WiiU, i think of this:
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Wii 2. Please just call it the Wii 2.

Every time I hear the WiiU, i think of this:
The Wii 2 is even worse. Why not just call it the Kablam?
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Wii 2. Please just call it the Wii 2.
Hardly makes a difference.

Since "two" rhymes with the letter "U."

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The Wii 2 is even worse. Why not just call it the Kablam?
Nintendo Kablam sounds bad too.
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Hardly makes a difference.

Since "two" rhymes with the letter "U."


Nintendo Kablam sounds bad too.
Aww, how could you say that to them???
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Aww, how could you say that to them???
I loved that series as a kid. Action League FTW!

But the title of the show is not good for a home console.
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Because when I see this, I will always want to be reminded of the 6th Nintendo Console. -_-
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It's all here people: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/libr...127/index.html
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For the Wii U
...fml.

EDIT: Ohwait, these are just console accounts. I thought this meant online.
...never mind.
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Because when I see this, I will always want to be reminded of the 6th Nintendo Console. -_-
$w@gg.....
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It's all here people: