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people that did the things that you quoted were only trying to help and i dont completely understand how doing those parts are bad if a mod isnt completely present.
we'er trying to keep the forums clean too and i believe we have the right to point something out to users that dont understand the rules completely as well as mods
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Also there's a huge difference between being a helpful member trying to teach people what's right, and being some sort of elitist prick calling out members on their mistakes. That's the whole reason I put those examples up - So that you could understand how tone plays a big role in all this. Let's say you and another member go on a tangent in some thread in The Lounge. Would you honestly be alright with some member coming in to call you two out for breaking rules, and explaining why you two should receive infractions? Most people wouldn't, and might even start a pointless argument with the backseat mod. So not only is this annoying, but it also provides ammunition for derailment. If you want to show members the errors of their way - Do so through example, not direct unnecessary feedback. |
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We don't want people constantly quoting rules, calling out members, and telling moderation how to do their forum duties. If you do any of that, you'll be on thin ice. But just because you remove the condescending or authoritative tone, doesn't make your post completely justified. I'll post a hypothetical: Quote:
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That's not what this rule is about at all. Re-read the OP. It's great to help other members out, especially newer ones.
What's not ok is assuming a position of superiority and "talking down" to the other members.
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If I may, a decent reference point for newer forum users is the correct use of modal verbs. In fact I have found that mastering the art of modal verbs can change the way one is perceived by others by at least 100%.
Reference. Now, I do not want to overstep my bounds, but this seems to be the nail on the head. Using your example of what not to say, would a current moderator elaborate as to whether or not this is an acceptable example. Quote:
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It is essentially asking forum users to avoid using definite words like "stop, go, should, must, etc." (when making requests of others, it's standard courtesy anyway) and thus gives the forum user the freedom to preserve their own topic, with accountability and responsibility, without bringing in a babysitter of sorts. However, I have been apart of many a forum that condone and encourage user babysitting and I don't mean to detract in anyway from Panini's guidelines. I simply hope to offer an educational and reasonable solution.
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"Guys, could you please stop spamming so we can stay on topic"
Works for me. To constantly take up the imperative or authoritative position is what Moderation condemns, and is part of what we'd like everyone to receive from this announcement - The other part being that members call upon Moderation when they find themselves unable to mend problems themselves. |
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"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use words."
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