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Old 10-20-2012, 03:38 AM
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Games are coming for the vita and 3ds does have the games plus backwards compatibility with ds games
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:42 AM
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I'm confused. You looked at Vita launch titles, like these

and thought that they were too similar to realistic FPS's? ...really?
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Except none of the launch titles were FPS.
Come on you guys, he's not solely talking about the Vita:

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Tbh if I want graphics I just play games on my PC. The reason I never bought, and never will buy a full console is because my PC does everything better, but I missed out on Nintendo games until I got my 3DS.

All the launch titles on the Vita just made me think meh, boring. I'm really not a fan of realistic FPS games, but rail shooters like kid Icarus / Space harrier and cheesy old skool platformers are much more my thing for console games.
Note how the part about the launch titles looking boring to him is followed by a period, and then followed by another sentence explaining what his tastes are, illustrating his previous claim that "The reason I never bought, and never will buy a full console is because my PC does everything better, but I missed out on Nintendo games."

I think his post was misunderstood.
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I think his post was misunderstood.
If it was, a little clarification on his part is all that's needed.
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I'm confused. You looked at Vita launch titles, like these

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and thought that they were too similar to realistic FPS's? ...really?
No no, they're just not much different to what I can already play on the PC. None of those games make me think 'Wow, I really want to buy a Vita', like all the nostalgia inducing games on the 3DS do. A lot of non Nintendo console games eventualy get ported to the PC anyway, so its simply that I'm not missing out on enough to make me want to spend money on a Vita.

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No no, they're just not much different to what I can already play on the PC. None of those games make me think 'Wow, I really want to buy a Vita', like all the nostalgia inducing games on the 3DS do. A lot of non Nintendo console games eventualy get ported to the PC anyway, so its simply that I'm not missing out on enough to make me want to spend money on a Vita.
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Dragon Quest VII full 3D remake on 3DS February 7th in Japan followed by Monster Hunter 4 in March and Shin Megami Tensei IV somewhere around that time. Also with Animal Crossing New Leaf, Layton vs Attorney and Level 5's Fantasy Life this year I'd say it's time for Vita's name to be changed to whatever is Latin for Death. The only thing Vita has for defense against all that is Soul Sacrifice and Tales of Hearts R, a DS remake, it's over.
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Dragon Quest VII full 3D remake on 3DS February 7th in Japan followed by Monster Hunter 4 in March and Shin Megami Tensei IV somewhere around that time. Also with Animal Crossing New Leaf, Layton vs Attorney and Level 5's Fantasy Life this year I'd say it's time for Vita's name to be changed to whatever is Latin for Death. The only thing Vita has for defense against all that is Soul Sacrifice and Tales of Hearts R, a DS remake, it's over.
SCE has the franchises to compete, they just dont use them anymore this gen.

Who wouldnt be stoked to see a dark cloud, ico, or colony wars on the vita?
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SCE has the franchises to compete, they just dont use them anymore this gen.

Who wouldnt be stoked to see a dark cloud, ico, or colony wars on the vita?
Sure these would be great for fans but they aren't the kind of games that can fight Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter.
Old 11-14-2012, 07:21 PM
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Dragon Quest VII full 3D remake on 3DS February 7th in Japan followed by Monster Hunter 4 in March and Shin Megami Tensei IV somewhere around that time. Also with Animal Crossing New Leaf, Layton vs Attorney and Level 5's Fantasy Life this year I'd say it's time for Vita's name to be changed to whatever is Latin for Death. The only thing Vita has for defense against all that is Soul Sacrifice and Tales of Hearts R, a DS remake, it's over.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:13 AM
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Yeah, sorry to say this, but it's pretty dead. I had faith before it was released/at launch, then little faith a few months later, then less and less until the Vita has hit what I think is four lowest weeks ever in the last five weeks in Japan; according to Nintendo's data it's constantly being outsold by the PSP in Europe; and according to NPD the Vita is generally around 35-45k per month in North America.

The name PS Vita is becoming more ironic every week.
Old 11-17-2012, 08:19 AM
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The Vita is going to join the ranks of the virtual boy, and the dreamcast. It's horrifying, but true. This past week the 3DS sold close to half a million. The vita, which is also a new handheld with a fairly robust library, and frankly a fairly reasonable price, just barely sells 60k. Holy cow. Holiday season has started people, and the vita is selling like it will cause cancer. I'm sad. I'm a proud vita owner, but this thing is dead. Having trouble maintaining hope. All sony can do is hope for some miracle. I mean, they just announced a new bundle with an original assassins creed game, a white vita that looks sexy as hell, a memory card, and they still cannot manage to push 100000 in the middle of holiday buying season. If you are not worried at this point, you are in denial. Hold on to your vita, you will soon be a member of a very exclusive club.

PS I love my vita so much, but it's screwed.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:18 AM
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Vita is the new dinosaurs.
I guess we can't say what will happen in terms of what Sony's going to do with it. They might just stick with the Vita for the entire generation in hope of being a GameCube-type failure, it's possible.

But in terms of everything else, I know, it's doomed (at least 99% doomed, because it's "preposterous" to judge a system after it's had its first holiday season, says UK Sony guy -- even if it already had its first holiday season in Japan and has one of the worst holiday line ups in history for its second). Again, how doomed? I do not know, but doomed enough that it pains me to see people on the Vita forum being so confident that it will pick up, simply explaining that "it was never going to beat the 3DS or the PSP" despite the fact that no one enters a race with only one other competitor if they don't think they could beat them, and especially despite the fact that Kaz said if the PSP sold 70 million units, then they wanted to exceed that number and reach it faster.

Anyway, it will still be interesting to see what happens with COD, Black Friday, and PSASBR, since COD has a bundle, Black Friday has the bundle at $200, and PS All Stars will tell Sony whether they were right or not with their whole cross-play with PS3 idea.

But the Vita's performance is truly something historic in that I don't think we've seen a performance quite like this in some time, especially with such a strong start and an almost instant drop. I think it's fascinating to try to understand what happened.
There's still a 1% chance that we're wrong, but depending on how long they stick with it, when they time their price drop/cheaper revision, and how appealing that revision is, my highest prediction would be low 30 millions, though I expect it to be well below that (the question I've been asking myself for some time now is whether it can beat the GameCube at 21.74m).
Old 11-17-2012, 09:59 AM
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Can someone find out whether Buramu thinks the Vita is doomed?

I think the Vita isn't doing well for a couple reasons. Firstly, whether the Vita is at a reasonable price or not, it's expensive, especially when a) It's compared to the 3DS and b) You add in the necessary memory card. Secondly, it doesn't have the casual appeal that the 3DS has. I'm sure it has some casual appeal, but it isn't as approachable as the 3DS to casual gamers, especially kids. A game system usually isn't going to do well if it isn't inviting to the ultra casual (kids and families), since they make up the majority of the market. But yeah, I'm just pointing out the obvious.

Even though I'm not very interested in the Vita, I'd be sad if it curled up and died, taking Sony halfway with it (Would it?). Less systems and games = bad for the industry, especially when Nintendo gets lazy because of the lack of competition. Hang in there.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:35 PM
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Can someone find out whether Buramu thinks the Vita is doomed?
No, he's hopeful, although in his posts he blames everything on Japanese people having narrow tastes, only playing Mario, Pokemon and Monster Hunter, and not knowing a good game if it slapped them in the face; and on people who game on the 3DS being sheep, while the Vita is for "gaming connoisseurs" (he's actually used that more than once) "who know their **** about gaming." But he sees a bright future for it in that respect in the West, and, in response to those worldwide numbers, said "all the doom and gloom gets put nicely in perspective when you look at the worldwide figures."

I don't think he realizes that the time they used to say "wait for this, wait for that, the games are coming, it will be fine" is actually here, now. LittleBigPlanet has been released. Assassin's Creed and Need for Speed have been released. COD was just released so we don't know how well that did, but with a 33/100 on Metacritic, the game will only carry the Vita so far. PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale has yet to release, so that's their last bullet.

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I think the Vita isn't doing well for a couple reasons. Firstly, whether the Vita is at a reasonable price or not, it's expensive, especially when a) It's compared to the 3DS and b) You add in the necessary memory card. Secondly, it doesn't have the casual appeal that the 3DS has. I'm sure it has some casual appeal, but it isn't as approachable as the 3DS to casual gamers, especially kids. A game system usually isn't going to do well if it isn't inviting to the ultra casual (kids and families), since they make up the majority of the market. But yeah, I'm just pointing out the obvious.

Even though I'm not very interested in the Vita, I'd be sad if it curled up and died, taking Sony halfway with it (Would it?). Less systems and games = bad for the industry, especially when Nintendo gets lazy because of the lack of competition. Hang in there.
The problems are way, way more complex than that in my opinion. They go back to the PSP years. The strategy they adopted during the PSP's life, and the strategy they didn't adopt, are now blowing up in their face. That's why I think the Vita will not recover. It's not just about "drop the price," "release a game for kids," they just... I guess they probably thought handhelds and home consoles were the same for some reason, not realizing that what worked for the PS3 in the home console market is really not applicable to the handheld market. They should have started creating new first-party IPs exclusive to their handheld systems eight years ago, trying to build an identity with their own fresh new franchises that they could then transition to the Vita. Instead, they foolishly thought that the third parties that were very enthusiastic about the PSP pre-launch based on the PS2's performace, were still just as enthusiastic despite what happened to the PSP and the fact that the PS3 was saved basically by game developers needing a second HD platform to bring their games to, to make them profitable.

They probably thought that just because they're Sony, Monster Hunter and Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid and Grand Theft Auto and whatnot were going to come to them one after the other to carry their system, even more than for the PSP considering the Vita's improvements over the PSP, and when they didn't, they realized "of ****, our table only has two legs:" one of them is the third parties that did invest in the platform, like EA in NFS, Ubisoft in AssCreed, and Activision in COD; and the other being their own home console franchises. Problem is, most of their successful home console franchises are aimed at Western gamers. Western gamers love their home consoles, but handhelds are really only a secondary gaming device to most of them, something that's nice but that they don't really need. It really remained to be seen whether their home console successes like Uncharted would translate well as portable franchises. Right now it seems like people prefer experiencing Uncharted on an HDTV with loud speakers at home. Not saying they don't like playing it on the Vita, but there isn't as much demand for it as there's demand for that on a home console nowadays. Uncharted is a modern franchise. It doesn't have the old school gameplay that games like Mario, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Zelda etc. had. It would be like Nintendo expecting that Resident Evil: Revelations, a portable Need for Speed and a portable Call of Duty would carry their systems. On a handheld, those aren't the primary kinds of games. They can sell very well, but they're not gonna sell nearly as well as on modern home consoles.

So when the third-party leg was always untested to begin with, you're left with one leg, your own first-party franchises. None of which you've created for your predecessor in the handheld market. All home console, modern-style Western franchises. That's not a very solid leg to support much of the weight of your table.

So my point is the Vita isn't crumbling because of stuff they can simply change now. They can't announce a price drop overnight, announce God of War, and change their fortunes much. They would have to go back in time, make different choices and learn from their first couple of years on the PSP. Instead they took the exact same path with the Vita. They adopted the same strategy as the one they had for the PSP and PS3. I just think they completely misjudged the market and the situation. They got off to a great start with the PSP thanks to third-party developers' trust in Sony after the back-to-back successes of the PS1 and PS2, and when that faded, Monster Hunter proved to be a sensation in Japan and other Japanese third parties flocked to the system. In the middle, they also sold a lot of units because the PSP could be hacked so easily, and that's why the PSP doesn't have a very good ratio of software per owner. But now the 3DS isn't the DS, it can pull off complex 3D experiences just with inferior graphics, and mobile devices have proved for many people to be a pretty cool secondary gaming device. So the 3DS can pull off Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Metal Gear Solid, and mobile devices can get GTAIII, Asphalt, Modern Combat, as well as casual games, and that doesn't leave the Vita with a lot of room to grow.

So for all those reasons, I think it's too late for Sony to do anything with the Vita except limit the damage.
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No, he's hopeful, although in his posts he blames everything on Japanese people having narrow tastes, only playing Mario, Pokemon and Monster Hunter, and not knowing a good game if it slapped them in the face; and on people who game on the 3DS being sheep, while the Vita is for "gaming connoisseurs" (he's actually used that more than once) "who know their **** about gaming." But he sees a bright future for it in that respect in the West, and, in response to those worldwide numbers, said "all the doom and gloom gets put nicely in perspective when you look at the worldwide figures."

I don't think he realizes that the time they used to say "wait for this, wait for that, the games are coming, it will be fine" is actually here, now. LittleBigPlanet has been released. Assassin's Creed and Need for Speed have been released. COD was just released so we don't know how well that did, but with a 33/100 on Metacritic, the game will only carry the Vita so far. PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale has yet to release, so that's their last bullet.



The problems are way, way more complex than that in my opinion. They go back to the PSP years. The strategy they adopted during the PSP's life, and the strategy they didn't adopt, are now blowing up in their face. That's why I think the Vita will not recover. It's not just about "drop the price," "release a game for kids," they just... I guess they probably thought handhelds and home consoles were the same for some reason, not realizing that what worked for the PS3 in the home console market is really not applicable to the handheld market. They should have started creating new first-party IPs exclusive to their handheld systems eight years ago, trying to build an identity with their own fresh new franchises that they could then transition to the Vita. Instead, they foolishly thought that the third parties that were very enthusiastic about the PSP pre-launch based on the PS2's performace, were still just as enthusiastic despite what happened to the PSP and the fact that the PS3 was saved basically by game developers needing a second HD platform to bring their games to, to make them profitable.

They probably thought that just because they're Sony, Monster Hunter and Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid and Grand Theft Auto and whatnot were going to come to them one after the other to carry their system, even more than for the PSP considering the Vita's improvements over the PSP, and when they didn't, they realized "of ****, our table only has two legs:" one of them is the third parties that did invest in the platform, like EA in NFS, Ubisoft in AssCreed, and Activision in COD; and the other being their own home console franchises. Problem is, most of their successful home console franchises are aimed at Western gamers. Western gamers love their home consoles, but handhelds are really only a secondary gaming device to most of them, something that's nice but that they don't really need. It really remained to be seen whether their home console successes like Uncharted would translate well as portable franchises. Right now it seems like people prefer experiencing Uncharted on an HDTV with loud speakers at home. Not saying they don't like playing it on the Vita, but there isn't as much demand for it as there's demand for that on a home console nowadays. Uncharted is a modern franchise. It doesn't have the old school gameplay that games like Mario, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Zelda etc. had. It would be like Nintendo expecting that Resident Evil: Revelations, a portable Need for Speed and a portable Call of Duty would carry their systems. On a handheld, those aren't the primary kinds of games. They can sell very well, but they're not gonna sell nearly as well as on modern home consoles.

So when the third-party leg was always untested to begin with, you're left with one leg, your own first-party franchises. None of which you've created for your predecessor in the handheld market. All home console, modern-style Western franchises. That's not a very solid leg to support much of the weight of your table.

So my point is the Vita isn't crumbling because of stuff they can simply change now. They can't announce a price drop overnight, announce God of War, and change their fortunes much. They would have to go back in time, make different choices and learn from their first couple of years on the PSP. Instead they took the exact same path with the Vita. They adopted the same strategy as the one they had for the PSP and PS3. I just think they completely misjudged the market and the situation. They got off to a great start with the PSP thanks to third-party developers' trust in Sony after the back-to-back successes of the PS1 and PS2, and when that faded, Monster Hunter proved to be a sensation in Japan and other Japanese third parties flocked to the system. In the middle, they also sold a lot of units because the PSP could be hacked so easily, and that's why the PSP doesn't have a very good ratio of software per owner. But now the 3DS isn't the DS, it can pull off complex 3D experiences just with inferior graphics, and mobile devices have proved for many people to be a pretty cool secondary gaming device. So the 3DS can pull off Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Metal Gear Solid, and mobile devices can get GTAIII, Asphalt, Modern Combat, as well as casual games, and that doesn't leave the Vita with a lot of room to grow.

So for all those reasons, I think it's too late for Sony to do anything with the Vita except limit the damage.
It's really really sad too, because the Vita is really the first handheld I've seen that is aimed at western gamers. Let's face it, Nintendo focuses on the east with the 3ds first. The Vita on the otherhand has mostly western games, more western focused games on the horizon. That's super attractive to me. To see someone appeal to me this much in the handheld space rustles my jimmies hard. I really hope it picks up somewhat. If they were smart, they would wait until they were selling the vita for a profit, and keep it at that price. A price drop is not going to do much, so they might as well sell a few profitable systems to limit the damage.
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I guess they probably thought handhelds and home consoles were the same for some reason, not realizing that what worked for the PS3 in the home console market is really not applicable to the handheld market. They should have started creating new first-party IPs exclusive to their handheld systems eight years ago, trying to build an identity with their own fresh new franchises that they could then transition to the Vita. Instead, they foolishly thought that the third parties that were very enthusiastic about the PSP pre-launch based on the PS2's performace, were still just as enthusiastic despite what happened to the PSP and the fact that the PS3 was saved basically by game developers needing a second HD platform to bring their games to, to make them profitable.
Sony didn't develop anything that wasn't uncommon for handhelds; no developer, no manufacturer had this "fresh new franchises" mentality. And just like Tales of, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Ninja Gaiden, DoA, Resident Evil, Zelda, GTA, Shin Megami Tensei, Sony's handheld versions sold worse than the console versions. If they had the wrong idea about what games to develop for handhelds then so did everybody else.

And the bolded doesn't seem true. This entire year looked like Sony was trying to win over Western third party developers. How many systems had as many first/second party games as the Vita during their first year? They might have thought Japanese developers would have taken to it better than they are but I doubt they ever gave a damn in the first place. Liberation and CoDBoD are definitely Sony's doing, the same way KH3D and Revelations are obviously Nintendo's doing. The main indicator is that three of those games are not nearly as good as they could be - they were obviously rushed to push systems. If Sony did care, we'd see more rushed, big name Japanese games.

There are reasons why Sony didn't bother to win over Japanese devs:

1. Most of their games don't have mass appeal in Sony's bigger regions.
2. Japanese developers have sucked on HD consoles. They weren't going to push the Vita.

And we're seeing those issues come up with the 3DS, especially the second one. Just look at DQ7's remake (not upgraded port) for the 3DS:





Sure, if Sony got the game for the Vita, it would push systems and make them plenty of money. But gamers expect more out of Vita games and there's no reason they shouldn't (they should expect more from 3DS games because too many think that ^that looks good). Personally, I don't think that's the kind of support worth fighting for and, looking at Sony's actions, neither do they.

So... where does this put the Vita? Well, I question what Sony had planned for it exactly because Western support was never prominent on handhelds. They had to know that trying to gain it was a gamble. They knew from the start that Japanese developers weren't going to support the Vita in the way it should be supported. And last I heard from their financial reports, it isn't bleeding money and they aren't betting a new format on it like the PS3 so it's not a big loss to them if the Vita doesn't succeed.

Maybe it was just meant as an experiment, though, for what they're planning on doing in the near future with cloud gaming and their tablets and nothing more than that. The ideas behind the Vita, its hardware, OS, and games make it seem pretty obvious. Kind of kills my hope to see the Vita end up with a fleshed out library but this handheld generation is disappointing on almost all fronts.

If Sony continues to support the Vita with 1st party games (and they are in the near future, Bend is hiring designers for a new big budget Vita game), if there's niche support, PS2 classics, and Gaikai support, it'll be enough for me. It doesn't look like the 3DS will live up to its potential either unless developers put more effort into their games which doesn't seem likely at this point.

Definitely the last handheld gen for me, though, because this one is very disappointing.
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there are reasons why sony didn't bother to win over japanese devs:

1. Most of their games don't have mass appeal in sony's bigger regions.
the same can be said to western games that mostly don't have mass appeal in japan.
2. Japanese developers have sucked on hd consoles. They weren't going to push the vita. mainly because most of them are trying to win the western gamers and make games that appeals to the west.

and we're seeing those issues come up with the 3ds, especially the second one. Just look at dq7's remake (not upgraded port) for the 3ds:






sure, if sony got the game for the vita, it would push systems and make them plenty of money. But gamers expect more out of vita games and there's no reason they shouldn't (they should expect more from 3ds games because too many think that ^that looks good). Personally, i don't think that's the kind of support worth fighting for and, looking at sony's actions, neither do they.

i don't see anything wrong with the pics and i am fine playing a game that looks like that or in hd, as long as it's a great game, i don't mind it that much.


so... Where does this put the vita? Well, i question what sony had planned for it exactly because western support was never prominent on handhelds. They had to know that trying to gain it was a gamble. They knew from the start that japanese developers weren't going to support the vita in the way it should be supported. And last i heard from their financial reports, it isn't bleeding money and they aren't betting a new format on it like the ps3 so it's not a big loss to them if the vita doesn't succeed.

they knew from the start that there is almost no support from japanese developers? O.o

from business point of view, this has to be one of the worst and idiotic decision made by sony if it's true. I am not surprised if they said ps vita isn't bleeding money.


maybe it was just meant as an experiment, though, for what they're planning on doing in the near future with cloud gaming and their tablets and nothing more than that. The ideas behind the vita, its hardware, os, and games make it seem pretty obvious. Kind of kills my hope to see the vita end up with a fleshed out library but this handheld generation is disappointing on almost all fronts.

If sony continues to support the vita with 1st party games (and they are in the near future, bend is hiring designers for a new big budget vita game), if there's niche support, ps2 classics, and gaikai support, it'll be enough for me. It doesn't look like the 3ds will live up to its potential either unless developers put more effort into their games which doesn't seem likely at this point.

Definitely the last handheld gen for me, though, because this one is very disappointing.

i wouldn't say this gen handheld is disappointing at all, if you are willing to try the games on both 3ds and ps vita. Unless you only play games based on how pretty it would be on the screen or not gonna give it a try because it's nintendo's handheld, then this handheld gen is indeed disappointing to you.

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Just to respond to the "bleeding money" part; I'm not at all surprised. I've been saying for months that the Vita was either selling at a small profit, breaking even, or at a slight loss. People keep linking to that annoying "profitable in three years" article as if it meant that the Vita hardware would sell at a loss for three years, when I've said over and over that they were talking about the whole venture being profitable in three years, not the hardware. Szayel thought I was wrong, but I agree with you nasic, the Vita is not a huge loss to them. They can afford to stick with it.

But no the Vita is not an experiment, Kaz made that quite clear. The experiment was the PSP Go.
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the same can be said to western games that mostly don't have mass appeal in japan.
Sure but Sony's made more off selling Playstation games in the West than in Japan (especially this past gen) so it makes sense that they'd want to focus on bringing games that appeal to Western gamers.

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mainly because most of them are trying to win the western gamers and make games that appeals to the west.
Well, most of them avoided HD consoles in general and there were few that didn't who were able to make great games in a reasonable amount of time.

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i don't see anything wrong with the pics and i am fine playing a game that looks like that or in hd, as long as it's a great game, i don't mind it that much.
It could and should look much better than it does and I can't think of a reasonable excuse for why it doesn't. It's surely going to sell well enough to deserve a higher budget than most handheld games and it's not like they can't port assets from DQVIII and X.

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they knew from the start that there is almost no support from japanese developers? O.o

from business point of view, this has to be one of the worst and idiotic decision made by sony if it's true. I am not surprised if they said ps vita isn't bleeding money.
"They knew from the start that japanese developers weren't going to support the vita in the way it should be supported."

Meaning barely any if any PS3-esque games.

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i wouldn't say this gen handheld is disappointing at all, if you are willing to try the games on both 3ds and ps vita. Unless you only play games based on how pretty it would be on the screen or not gonna give it a try because it's nintendo's handheld, then this handheld gen is indeed disappointing to you.
I own both systems; don't really care what system the game is on, if it looks like the developer put effort into it, I'll buy it. But that's the thing, most developers aren't putting enough effort into their games for me to be interested.

And I'm not saying that every game has to push the hardware. There are plenty of devs that can't afford to do that and most games don't warrant the bigger budget. Ragnarok Odyssey, Ys IV, SMTIV, Project Diva f and Tales of Hearts R are more-or-less how I expect games that won't sell that much to look like (PS2 ballpark) regardless if the system is the 3DS or Vita because both are strong enough to pull off PS2 graphics.

My problem is that many developers aren't even willing to make PS2 level games. Look at Youkai Watch from L5.



Level 5 has done better on comparable hardware so why I shouldn't expect something better than this on the 3DS?

Also, there are other things about this gen that disappoint me too e.g. lack of new IPs (physical games.. so not Pushmo or Sound Shapes), there are too many games I'd normally be interested in but aren't because they're wrapped in a cutesy aesthetic (Blazybloo, Rhythm Hunter), and developers are still tacking on and developing games around touch/motion controls (Escape Plan, Killzone).
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We're all posting to the 3DSforums, what answers were you expecting exactly..?
Just because this is 3DSforums, it doesn't mean that all of us are Nintendo Fanboy, at least I know I am not.
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It usually means you're indifferent about/unconvinced by something. Like if I see an average movie that I didn't find particularly bad or particularly good, if you ask me what I thought about it I might say "Meh, it was all right I guess."
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I would get a psvita if the games were better. Right now there are barely any games that interest me.
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I would get a psvita if the games were better. Right now there are barely any games that interest me.
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The PS Vita is a great system, it's just that Sony isn't playing their cards right. Just look at the CoD that came out last month. That was an epic failure. Companies just aren't making games for it. The only good games would have to be: LBPV,AC3:L,LBPK and some others. Madden 13 an NBA 2k13 are just ports. I would have a Vita already, but $300! Seriously! When the price drop happens I'll definately buy one; but I'm worried that when I buy my Vita, Sony will come out with a new one. That's what happened when I bought my Dsi XL, the 3ds came out right after.

I didn't buy a 3ds for the 3D. I bought it so I could play Nintendo games. Imagine if the next Vita would have 3D! That would be awesome, but make it glasses 3D. The 3ds's glasses free 3D doesn't work very well and it hurts my eyes. If your thinking about buying a Vita to play Sony games, a PS3 would be a much better choice.

Sony needs to convince developers to come to Vita. What if they got Mojang to break the contract with Microsoft? Minecraft Vita Edition! A lot of people would buy a Vita just for that; buy Mojang needs to keep it updated. Minecraft pocket and Xbox edition suck because they are so outdated.

3D is cool, but Vita has even cooler features like the back side touch screen. LBPV is a cool game because you basically have an arcade in your pocket because you can download and play the user made levels. AC3:L looks pretty fun, but I've heard it gets repetitive. I have AC3 so when I get my Vita I'll definately pick it up.

If you are looking for a portable system, 3DS and Vita are both great, but I would buy a Vita. I never even thought of buying a Vita until I looked more into it.
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There are plenty of reasons (at least for me) to buy a Vita. MGS HD Collection, MvC3, and the upcoming DOA Vita are reasons enough. Not a lot of games for the Vita, but I know Sony will support their console well and we'll have plenty of classic PSP games on the Vita that I can get later down the road.

I could care less about the fact that it runs the half-assed LiveArea GUI, or that it has a bunch of media restrictions. I have a tablet now, my handheld consoles need not heft the weight of being a multimedia machine. I can adjust to the battery life too. Even with its extended battery, my 3DS gets only 6-7 hours of charge at a time. I've learned to adjust. Even the price is rather fair if you can find a good bundle.

So basically, there's a bunch of reasons why I should get a PS Vita.

There's just one reason why I shouldn't:


This "problem" is something that Sony can't and won't ever fix, and thus is reason alone to dissuade me from ever purchasing a PS Vita.
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No PS3 or Xbox 360 huh?
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Reason to buy a Vita?



That's more than enough.
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No PS3 or Xbox 360 huh?
Nope. If I did though, then the Vita would REALLY be useless to me.
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Nope. If I did though, then the Vita would REALLY be useless to me.
Interested in Gravity Rush at all?
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No PS3 or Xbox 360 huh?
Interesting question.

As for me, I have both consoles and also PS Vita. There are games (In fact a lot) that I won't be getting on Vita because I can get it on PS3 or 360.

Since I am also a PS Plus member, I got Uncharted GA for free and I am also planning to download Gravity Rush. Now I am waiting for YS, Zero no Kiseki and a few more other titles. I didn't expect myself getting PS Vita this early if not due to the Black Friday deal on Amazon, I wouldn't have one now.
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Interested in Gravity Rush at all?
Nope, sorry. Gravity Rush looks interesting, but it by no means is an actual reason for me to want the handheld.

TBH, Sony hasn't had a single 1st party/exclusive I've been interested in since the PS2 era.
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Amazon.com is a huge Vita fanboy. Dat trolling:



That's what every 3DS hardware page says. The Vita pages talk about the PS store instead, nothing about "Also consider the 3DS." Obviously, it has to do with the fact that Amazon sells the Vita directly and not Nintendo hardware, but then... why aren't they selling Nintendo hardware directly again? Originally they said they temporarily stopped selling the original 3DS themselves because of consumer complaints that there was something wrong with them, so they said they were going to check their inventory. That was last year, but Amazon still doesn't sell any Nintendo console directly.

Amazon.com: Nintendo hater - confirmed.
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Amazon.com is a huge Vita fanboy. Dat trolling:



That's what every 3DS hardware page says. The Vita pages talk about the PS store instead, nothing about "Also consider the 3DS." Obviously, it has to do with the fact that Amazon sells the Vita directly and not Nintendo hardware, but then... why aren't they selling Nintendo hardware directly again? Originally they said they temporarily stopped selling the original 3DS themselves because of consumer complaints that there was something wrong with them, so they said they were going to check their inventory. That was last year, but Amazon still doesn't sell any Nintendo console directly.

Amazon.com: Nintendo hater - confirmed.
I wouldn't look into it much, they are not selling the game gear either. C'mon Amazon.
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You know I know this is a little off-topic but I think the 3ds was a huge jump to the next generation because it really brougth new revolutionary things (AR, 3D,Streetpass...) And its graphics where really a lot better than the Ds's were, Im no against Vita by no means, but I think the jump from the psp to the Vita wasnt that big, the graphics are a lot better and it brings new things to the table though, and I think the 3ds was really a step forward to Nintendo intead of a backward step to something there's already avaible by other ways (Wii, Wii U) so I think the 3ds really brougth the 8th generation to the table because it's even able to compete with Vita (even though Vita's hardware is much better) while other Nintendo console will be crushed be crushed by the other new consoles... So indeed 3ds is a good contribution to the gaming in general
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Speaking of AR, I still haven't opened the Vita cards yet.

Lol.
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Lol.
I used them like one time. I think I lost mine, though.
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Speaking of AR, I still haven't opened the Vita cards yet.

Lol.
I got the same problem but with some Kid Icarus: Uprising AR cards pack they gifted me xD Ive had them for about 3/4 months and yet Ive been too lazy for giving them a try
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You know I know this is a little off-topic but I think the 3ds was a huge jump to the next generation because it really brougth new revolutionary things (AR, 3D,Streetpass...) And its graphics where really a lot better than the Ds's were, Im no against Vita by no means, but I think the jump from the psp to the Vita wasnt that big, the graphics are a lot better and it brings new things to the table though, and I think the 3ds was really a step forward to Nintendo intead of a backward step to something there's already avaible by other ways (Wii, Wii U) so I think the 3ds really brougth the 8th generation to the table because it's even able to compete with Vita (even though Vita's hardware is much better) while other Nintendo console will be crushed be crushed by the other new consoles... So indeed 3ds is a good contribution to the gaming in general
I don't own a DS, but I own a PSP, and from what I've seen, I think the 3DS and the Vita made equally big jumps from their predecessors, but maybe it feels bigger on the 3DS because the graphics on the DS were so ****ty.

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Speaking of AR, I still haven't opened the Vita cards yet.

Lol.
see, thats the problem with sony. The technology is there, they just dont know how to use it well. i played one game called table soccer, impressive to look at, but immediately boring. and it took lots of memory space as well. Imagine vita on the hands of nintendo, fight with multiple firebreathing dragons at the same time (as in the 3ds ar game but with multiple ar cards), H*** YEAH!!
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I think I lost mine, though.
And...... you probably don't really care. XD

What game(s) have you played with the cards?

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Are you joking or are you really unaware of it?

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Are you joking or are you really unaware of it?
I'm joking, but like you, I never even bothered opening the cards.
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You know I know this is a little off-topic but I think the 3ds was a huge jump to the next generation because it really brougth new revolutionary things (AR, 3D,Streetpass...) And its graphics where really a lot better than the Ds's were, Im no against Vita by no means, but I think the jump from the psp to the Vita wasnt that big, the graphics are a lot better and it brings new things to the table though, and I think the 3ds was really a step forward to Nintendo intead of a backward step to something there's already avaible by other ways (Wii, Wii U) so I think the 3ds really brougth the 8th generation to the table because it's even able to compete with Vita (even though Vita's hardware is much better) while other Nintendo console will be crushed be crushed by the other new consoles... So indeed 3ds is a good contribution to the gaming in general
Im very impressed with the 3DS package. It was a big jump in technology from my last Nintendo handheld/console, the Gameboy Color! The 3D effect, I think, is the greatest addition to the system and a real testament to Nintendo's ingenuity and willingness to put cool technology in our hands. Though, Nintendo in my opinion did take a step backwards with whole region-lock thing. With the AR functionality, is that really that revolutionary? I haven't really been attracted by it. It seems gimmicky to me, maybe I should try it tho before I start judging it. Before I do tho(I'm lazy), what kind of experience can I expect from it?

Whit the PS Vita I don't think you're being very fair. I own both the PSP and Vita and while it isn't perfect and Sony isn't very helpful the system itself is leaps ahead of its predecessor.

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see, thats the problem with sony. The technology is there, they just dont know how to use it well. i played one game called table soccer, impressive to look at, but immediately boring. and it took lots of memory space as well. Imagine vita on the hands of nintendo, fight with multiple firebreathing dragons at the same time (as in the 3ds ar game but with multiple ar cards), H*** YEAH!!
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They don't get noticed because the vast majority of AR games get boring or gimmicky and annoying after like, -2 seconds.
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I'm not just talking about AR games, though. Like with sixaxis on the PS3, there's only one retail game that made good use of it, it came out pretty early in the PS3's life, and barely anyone played it/knows what it is.
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Speaking of AR capabilities, while they're cool in concept, Nintendo and Sony basically ruined it by installing ****ty and just a bit less ****ty cameras in the 3DS and the Vita respectively.

I still lament the fact that I couldn't play Spirit Camera in the dark.
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Speaking of AR capabilities, while they're cool in concept, Nintendo and Sony basically ruined it by installing ****ty and just a bit less ****ty cameras in the 3DS and the Vita respectively.

I still lament the fact that I couldn't play Spirit Camera in the dark.
I know. My brother is very busy and doesn't have much time to play, and even though he bought his 3DS last year (a week before the price drop... he didn't know -_-), I think he only has a couple games for it, and they're DS games. This past summer he was gonna have a bit of time to play, and the only game he was interested in buying was Spirit Camera, and it pained me to tell him that I think he should pass on it.
Nintendo should put more efforts into their innovations.
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I don't own a DS, but I own a PSP, and from what I've seen, I think the 3DS and the Vita made equally big jumps from their predecessors, but maybe it feels bigger on the 3DS because the graphics on the DS were so ****ty
That's true... And when you play games like 3d Land or Revelation you ask yourself "Is this really what was made after Ds?"
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Lol.
I don't think I even looked for any AR cards in my box, lol...
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I don't think I even looked for any AR cards in my box, lol...
I don't even HAVE the AR cards.
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I tried to sell them for 25 cents and it was so hard to find a buyer, I had to pay one a dollar for him to accept.
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So is there an AR app for the ones included in the box? They're pretty much useless.
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So is there an AR app for the ones included in the box? They're pretty much useless.
You have to download the apps in the PS Store. They're free.
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You have to download the apps in the PS Store. They're free.
Ok, thanks! Is there a specific app for the ones included?
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All the AR games are sold free separately on PSN.

Here are some free AR games you can try:
Fireworks
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Table Soccer

Just search for them in the Vita games section.
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Good job resurrecting the thread
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Next on the list: http://3dsforums.com/nintendo-3ds-3/...ilities-31829/
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uh, 3ds. I hate that back touch screen idea.
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Really? Is it to intrusive for you?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:42 AM
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I thought I'd find it intrusive, but it isn't. It is pretty pointless, but I think it's a pretty funny idea, though it shouldn't be used as an L2/R2 alternative as it's more like a reverse side of the touch screen.
But yeah I don't see how it could hurt anyone's enjoyment of the device.
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I think that the rear touch pad is useless, it's an interesting idea, but in practice it has no use. I think Sony needed something to differentiate it from the PSP, but if they hadn't added it, the Vita would be cheaper, and they would be in much better shape.
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I agree, the rear touch pad is a really pointless feature. I understand why Sony made it, but so far I really haven't played a game that has used it well enough for me to admire it. Even in Black Ops, which is simply holding it to hold your breath down a sniper scope, it just feels so meh.

Anyways...this thread should've ended long ago. But hey, lots of people seem to enjoy idiotic banter between two things that are nothing alike yet somehow are constantly compared and being "one-upped" by their respective sides.
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I think this thread ended the second Pokemon X/Y got announced.
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I think this thread ended the second Pokemon X/Y got announced.
Lololololololol, good one

But seriously, the DS had 2 original Pokemon games, 1 direct sequel, and one remake, yet the PSP holds its own. We all knew a Pokemon 3DS was coming...besides, even as an enhanced port, I think P4G will not be very scared in terms of actual game quality
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I really like the rear touchpad. Pointless? I don't see how, as its functional in a spot that can be useful. Really I don't understand anyones complaints about it.
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I agree, the rear touch pad is a really pointless feature. I understand why Sony made it, but so far I really haven't played a game that has used it well enough for me to admire it. Even in Black Ops, which is simply holding it to hold your breath down a sniper scope, it just feels so meh.

Anyways...this thread should've ended long ago. But hey, lots of people seem to enjoy idiotic banter between two things that are nothing alike yet somehow are constantly compared and being "one-upped" by their respective sides.
The only game that I found to use it perfectly is Jetpack Joyride. The first game where the backtouch is the best control IMO anyway. Other than that, I agree, its a pretty superfluous gaming input.
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Scope Zooming in Uncharted worked great with the rear touchpad.
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I actually love the back touch pad. Not really so much for gaming though. But after using the back touch screen for web browsing, I have found that on a smart phone it would excel
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Yeah I enjoy that too.
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I really like the rear touchpad. Pointless? I don't see how, as its functional in a spot that can be useful. Really I don't understand anyones complaints about it.
The rear touch pad works great with the notes in DJ Max Technika Tune.
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The rear touch pad works great with the notes in DJ Max Technika Tune.
Seems like it's fine for certain games and situations, while not really getting in the way of anything. This is why I can't really say any complaints against it beyond dev's forcing it in bad situations are valid. Certainly as hardware it's a nice feature to have.
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3ds is innovative. Vita is more of the same. That's what I see. I have a console and I don't need a vita. These are the things that came to my mind when I debated the two.

The 3ds is interesting. It's new. The two screens is a great idea. The vita has a rear touch pad, I like that. That's interesting to me. But it's not enough.

There are certain things about the vita that just scream more of the same. I think that holds it back. Nintendo made handhelds interesting and different. Niche in a way.

There's an appeal there for people. I personally think that's why the psp and vita aren't doing as well as the ds and 3ds.
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I tried out a friends vita the other day and I have to say its a vast improvement over the psp. Just like the 3ds it has the clicky buttons which im really not a fan of as I constantly feel as if ill break my system by pressing them XD . But I still feel as if Nintendo will once again come on top in terms of this gens Nintendo v. Sony handhelds. Both are really innovative and fun to play but Sony tends to have multiple divergences in software, i feel like the vita library will be like the 3ds' first year in only having select titles that drive the system home, while Nintendo will drive out alot of killer titles that will keep the 3ds selling hard, plus a $80-$130 difference in hardware helps too.

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For me I prefer the Vita. I like playing bigger and better looking games. I know Nintendo fans like to yell out innovation over raw power but I honestly don't see any game changing features on the 3DS. The 3D effect is cool and all but I really don't see the growth of gaming going that way and I don't think developers really care for it either since most games don't even look that good in it. Not to mention, the various issues people have with it(mine is a major headache after half an hour).

With games Like AC III, Gravity Rush, P4G, Sly 4, and many more, the choice is clear.... PSVITA!!!
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For me I prefer the Vita. I like playing bigger and better looking games. I know Nintendo fans like to yell out innovation over raw power but I honestly don't see any game changing features on the 3DS. The 3D effect is cool and all but I really don't see the growth of gaming going that way and I don't think developers really care for it either since most games don't even look that good in it. Not to mention, the various issues people have with it(mine is a major headache after half an hour).

With games Like AC III, Gravity Rush, P4G, Sly 4, and many more, the choice is clear.... PSVITA!!!
Awww yea, three ports, can't beat that!
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Awww yea, three ports, can't beat that!
I only see two?

With P4G being an enhanced port with new content and Sly 4 not being a port, but a multiplatform release.
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Awww yea, three ports, can't beat that!
You are so naive. P4G is the only port out of those.

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I only see two?

With P4G being an enhanced port with new content and Sly 4 not being a port, but a multiplatform release.
I have both AC III. Both are totally different games - Different setting, different characters, different story. Well I'm not really finished with either so I could be totally wrong.

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You are so naive. P4G is the only port out of those.

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I have both AC III. Both are totally different games - Different setting, different characters, different story. Well I'm not really finished with either so I could be totally wrong.
Yeah I wasn't counting AC III, that's not a port and Gravity Rush isn't a port.

I only mentioned Sly, because it's the only one I saw that I thought he MIGHT have thought was a port, but it's not a port.

P4G is the only port(enhanced) and it's a hell of an awesome port that I'm sure even 3DS owners would have been happy in having.
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YEAH EVERYONE LIKES PATAPON WOO PUT IT ON THE VITA
A new patapon game would be great. They should at the very least release a Patapon Collection for the PSV.
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For me I prefer the Vita. I like playing bigger and better looking games. I know Nintendo fans like to yell out innovation over raw power but I honestly don't see any game changing features on the 3DS. The 3D effect is cool and all but I really don't see the growth of gaming going that way and I don't think developers really care for it either since most games don't even look that good in it. Not to mention, the various issues people have with it(mine is a major headache after half an hour).

With games Like AC III, Gravity Rush, P4G, Sly 4, and many more, the choice is clear.... PSVITA!!!
Unfortunately, it seems developers dont seem to keen on either system. Nothing is innovative on the 3DS IMO, but I dont think anything is really innovative on Vita either... The choice really isnt clear, and according to sales, the clear choice seems to be the 3DS. IF the Vita gets a price cut and some more original content, it may end up a good choice... hopefully.
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Unfortunately, it seems developers dont seem to keen on either system. Nothing is innovative on the 3DS IMO, but I dont think anything is really innovative on Vita either... The choice really isnt clear, and according to sales, the clear choice seems to be the 3DS. IF the Vita gets a price cut and some more original content, it may end up a good choice... hopefully.
I guess its back to the person's personal preference of hardware and games then. I agree with you about both handhelds not being innovative at all tho. Project Shield is more innovative than those too(too bad its being crippled by restriction tho).
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I've owned both the PSV and 3DS XL so I think I can make a general comparison.

PSV

Pros:
-beautiful OLED HD screen
-dual analog sticks for fps games
-graphic powerhouse
-multimedia/social networking apps
-fast battery recharge time
-relatively light
-nice sleek design

Cons:
-expensive system price ($250)
-expensive memory cards (32GB @ $100)
-gimmicky rear touch pad (not very well implemented)
-plastic screen
-scratch/fingerprint magnet
-analog sticks feel flimsy
-unresponsive shoulder buttons
-overall feels a bit cheap and plastic (makes squeaky sounds)

3DS XL:

Pros:
-large screen + bottom touch screen
-glasses-free 3D works well
-excellent build quality (feels rock solid)
-matte finish (no fingerprints)
-resistive touch screen is very accurate (compared to capacitive)
-sturdy circle pad, buttons
-StreePass
-4GB memory card included

Cons:
-poor wifi connectivity
-3D effect sometimes disorientating (but can be adjusted or turned off)
-low resolution screens
-resistive touch screen (requires a stylus)
-toy-like appearance
-single circle pad (second circle pad add-on is available)
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Okay first let me make something clear. Yes I am going to be defending the PSVita here but I can assure you I am no fanboy. I have never owned a PSVita and I never will, quite frankly. Its games just don't appeal to me.

And there's that key word right there: ME. It seems whenever an argument in over PSVita vs 3DS occurs anywhere, those who defend the 3DS claim the PSVita has "no games" as an argument, but that is complete BS. It doesn't have good games, ACCORDING TO YOU. But to many people, AC3L, Stardust, P4G and others may be very good. To some the library is even stronger than the 3DS. How do you argue with that?

The answer is, you can't. Arguing over power, ergonomics, and other factors of a system are logical because they are mostly objective. Game quality however is not something that people should treat like "points" in a contest. Games are a different experience for every individual person.

So when some Nintendo fanboy says he thinks Super Mario 3D Land is amazing, a Sony fanboy may say he finds Disgaea more amazing.

Now granted, one could still make a legitimate argument that perhaps Sony isn't giving the vita enough support. That is true because it is a fact. But even knowing this, games are a unique experience that go beyond a definition of silly definitions like Metascores or star ratings.

Just sayin.
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So are you posting this because of things you've seen on this forum, or just the internet in general?

Listen, everything you've said makes sense, it's just that there's really no point in trying to explain that sort of stuff to fanboys because, well, the're fanboys. Fanboys look at something they like and go 'Hey, I like this thing. Why does that person like the thing he likes and not the thing I like? That's dumb. I'm going to hate on what that person likes.' The idea of personal preference and opinion just doesn't occur to them because they're stupid. So there's no point in trying to reason with these people because their arguments are based on nothing but self validation. They're just dumb little kids, even if they're over the age of 9.
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Well if you take away Mario from the 3ds the Vita's library dystorys the 3ds' library and the vita has notable better design and build quality. The problem? Many of the best games on the vita are available on other platforms and the 3ds does have the mario games (although I still fell the vita's library is stronger). That is vita's big weakness, many of this games are available elsewhere (plus the memory cards are stupidly expensive).

The vita games I have/am getting: Terraway, Killzone Mercenary, Terraway, Malicious Rebirth, Disgae 3, Gravity Rush, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Resistance Burning Skies (wish I did not have this as it sucks), Super Stardust, Sly Cooper 4, Ratchet and Clank Qforce, Persona 4 Golden, Ragnarok Odyssey, Playstation All Stars Battle Royale, Unit 13, LittleBig Planet Vita and many more.

So the vita has an exclusive definitive version of one of the best rpg's in Persona 4, and exclusive Resistance game, Killzone game, a new IP from the makers of LittleBig Planet, and exclusive LittleBig Planet, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty game etc, how on earth could one say it doesn't have any games?

The vita has a strong line up and I don't get the "it has no games" comments people have. The wiiU is a console with essentially no games, the vita has many. The 3ds atm seems to be coasting by on Mario and to a lesser extent Monster Hunter with the very occasional game like Fire Emblem. Remove Mario though and the 3ds would have a rather bleak outlook atm in my opinion of course.
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...you think a Sony fanboy would be raving about Disgaea?
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...you think a Sony fanboy would be raving about Disgaea?
Where is the sony fanboy? As if your referring to me, your referring to someone who owns every Nintendo console (not every iteration eg: ds, dsi etc, but every Nintendo console none the less). If anything I could be called a Nintendo fanboy moreso then a sony fanboy (of which I own one console for).

If I have misunderstood you I apologize, ultimately my point is the vita's problem isn't the number of games available.
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Where is the sony fanboy? As if your referring to me, your referring to someone who owns every Nintendo console (not every iteration eg: ds, dsi etc, but every Nintendo console none the less). If anything I could be called a Nintendo fanboy moreso then a sony fanboy (of which I own one console for).

If I have misunderstood you I apologize, ultimately my point is the vita's problem isn't the number of games available.
1. He's not referring to you.
2. The whole point is that it's about a person's tastes if a game is fun/good or not. Starting a post with "Well if you take away Mario from the 3ds the Vita's library dystorys the 3ds' library..." is pretty much... not what the thread is about.

Also, why compare the WiiU, which has just released and is a home console, with the Vita which has been out for over a year and is a handheld system? Also, if you're using the argument that the Vita has a Killzone game, then we can count the heap of WiiU games coming out this year, and then the 'WiiU haz no gaemz' is not true at all.
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Where is the sony fanboy? As if your referring to me, your referring to someone who owns every Nintendo console (not every iteration eg: ds, dsi etc, but every Nintendo console none the less). If anything I could be called a Nintendo fanboy moreso then a sony fanboy (of which I own one console for).

If I have misunderstood you I apologize, ultimately my point is the vita's problem isn't the number of games available.
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1. He's not referring to you.
2. The whole point is that it's about a person's tastes if a game is fun/good or not. Starting a post with "Well if you take away Mario from the 3ds the Vita's library dystorys the 3ds' library..." is pretty much... not what the thread is about.

Also, why compare the WiiU, which has just released and is a home console, with the Vita which has been out for over a year and is a handheld system? Also, if you're using the argument that the Vita has a Killzone game, then we can count the heap of WiiU games coming out this year, and then the 'WiiU haz no gaemz' is not true at all.
Everything is relative, if the ps4 has no great games after a year of release and the xbox 360 follow up has five, whilst five great games would be disappointing it is better then zero. The 3ds and vita are in competition and thus will and should be compared especially if one is deciding between the two. At the moment if you want mario the 3ds is the platform for you, for everything else I would have a hard time recommending it over the vita.

Many don't care for Mario and think he has been run into the ground (can you really blame someone for that, if it was any either ip people would be livid for the milking of the franchise, but for some reason because it's Mario it is okay). If you can take one ip away from a console and suddenly the consoles releases are not very impressive, that is something worth noting afterall what happens to Nintendo if Mario losses his popularity? In your own words, how much fun is there to be had on the 3ds if one doesn't like Mario? So yes it is entirely relevant.

Why compare to the wiiU, as both are used to play games and thus are competing and the wiiU has had a stunning drought of games.


edit: as a side note I can't be the only one here who hates the like system on forums such as this, you get 'rewarded' for pandering.

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kk, np, wasn't sure so I thought should clarify.



Everything is relative, if the ps4 has no great games after a year of release and the xbox 360 follow up has five, whilst five great games would be disappointing it is better then zero. The 3ds and vita are in competition and thus will and should be compared especially if one is deciding between the two. At the moment if you want mario the 3ds is the platform for you, for everything else I would have a hard time recommending it over the vita.

Many don't care for Mario and think he has been run into the ground (can you really blame someone for that, if it was any either ip people would be livid for the milking of the franchise, but for some reason because it's Mario it is okay). If you can take one ip away from a console and suddenly the consoles releases are not very impressive, that is something worth noting afterall what happens to Nintendo if Mario losses his popularity? In your own words, how much fun is there to be had on the 3ds if one doesn't like Mario? So yes it is entirely relevant.

Why compare to the wiiU, as both are used to play games and thus are competing and the wiiU has had a stunning drought of games.

edit: as a side note I can't be the only one here who hates the like system on forums such as this, you get 'rewarded' for pandering.
It wasn't relevant to the thread (before it got merged into this one) because that one put forward the point that the argument 'system has no gamez' is entirely subjective, which it is (not a new argument, btw).
An argument stating how the 3DS is nothing without Mario completely ignores that argument, hence why that post was quite... pointless. And I'm sure quite a few people disagree, including myself: this further confirms the notion that 'system has no gamez' is an ignorant argument that can really only be used in the case that a system
1. Has just come out
2. Only has games that only a handful of people like and generally get trashed in reviews

The first case is relevant and was relevant in case of...pretty much all video game systems ever, and the second case is almost never relevant, and even if it is, the 'system has gamez' from the viewpoint of the handful that like them.

Ergo, arguing over 'system has no gamez' is stupid because tastes differ. Sure, one can say that a system has very few games that appeal to many people, but that can be applied to almost no system older than a year.
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Well if you take away Mario from the 3ds
*clears throat as fire emblem song starts to play*

FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE EMMMMMMBLEEEEEEM Pokeeeeemon xex and Y, mystery dungeooon, luuuuigis manisiooon. Monster hunter, castlevaniiia, kid Icarus and kingdom hearts, not to mention crashmo and pushmo and samuuuri sakura!

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Have you even heard of psn? Its is a magical place where you can buy ps vita games online along with movies and apps. O.O

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*clears throat as fire emblem song starts to play*

FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE EMMMMMMBLEEEEEEM Pokeeeeemon xex and Y, mystery dungeooon, luuuuigis manisiooon. Monster hunter, castlevaniiia, kid Icarus and kingdom hearts, not to mention crashmo and pushmo and samuuuri sakura!

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That's it, that's the best the 3ds without Mario has got after two years? A game that isn't out yet, another mario related ip, a psp/wii port, a main game knock of, a game that needed to sell you a stand with the game for a portable console? Oh right, that is the strongest line up, and so clearly is higher in quality then what is else where, how could I be so silly. (rolls eyes)
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That's it, that's the best the 3ds without Mario has got after two years? A game that isn't out yet, another mario related ip, a psp/wii port, a main game knock of, a game that needed to sell you a stand with the game for a portable console? Oh right, that is the strongest line up, and so clearly is higher in quality then what is else where, how could I be so silly. (rolls eyes)
That's still a pretty hefty amount of exclusives/ 1st parties.
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Fire Emblem, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario Kart 7 (while yes there are alot of Mario games the fact he practically SELLS SYSTEMS makes him very relevant no matter how much you say he's being "milked"), the level 5 games, Kid Icarus: Uprising (who cares if a stand came with it it's still one the best handheld games to come out), Resident Evil Revelations/Mercenaries( so what if it's being ported, it's a handheld game going to consoles which is a testament to it's quality), Smash Bros.(coming soon, but I figured since you used future Vita games I'd do the same with 3DS), Pushmo, Crashmo, Gunman Clive, Mutant Mudds (plus the upcoming sequel as well as original game from Renegade Kid), Kindom Hearts Dream Drop Distance, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy, Animal Crossing, Code of Princess, Donkey Kong Country 3D, As well as a plethora of other games E-shop, retail, and future release that I can't think of right now. So to say that the Vita is destroying the 3DS right now is completely false. Not to say that Vita doesn't have any good games or A decent variety, however I am saying that the 3DS has just as many quality games as the Vita maybe more idk wut kind of games the Vita has as it's not really my cup of tea. So yea not only is the 3DS getting strong first party support from Nintendo, but it's also getting great 3rd party support sooooo yea. Anyone feel free to add anything I may have missed...I would've used rehashes, ports and multiplats, but I felt the original releases are sufficient enough to get my point across, but feel free to add whatever you like.
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It was part of another thread regarding to subjective tastes, and that was my subjective taste, so yes nothing I said was problematic.
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That's it, that's the best the 3ds without Mario has got after two years? A game that isn't out yet, another mario related ip, a psp/wii port, a main game knock of, a game that needed to sell you a stand with the game for a portable console? Oh right, that is the strongest line up, and so clearly is higher in quality then what is else where, how could I be so silly. (rolls eyes)
Honestly if you aren't impressed with 3ds library at point, that is your preference. That being said, that doesn't erase all the amazing games that are out and coming out. You not liking them doesn't take away from the library at all. I personally think Vita's library is lackluster especially in 1st party effort, and sony's decision to ignore it frustrates. That being said there are undeniably great games on vita regardless of what I think, or what other people say. The difference is that the 3ds is considerably cheaper, and with all of the first party franchises that are familiar, it is simply build more to succeed than vita. Not to mention Nintendo adjusted to the market, something Sony couldn't afford to do. As for the references, I loved kid Icarus' controls and for those who complained about them should get over it. Also Monster hunter Ultimate has much more content than tri. As for Luigi's mansion 2 it may be from the Mario universe, but its the furthest thing from mario, and I am not quite sure why that is a negative.

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My testimony as an owner of both handhelds. I'm a 20 year old college student if that helps give you some ballpark estimation of my mindset:

I recently purchased an XL for Fire Emblem last week, as of right now I have Awakening, NSMB2, Mario Kart 7, and Kirby's Adventure. This was all within a matter of days of owning a 3DS. The library of games you have access to is undeniable. I already plan on buying:

Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Super Mario 3D Land (played through it once before trading it away, worth mentioning that I'd like to buy it again)
Ocarina of Time 3D
Star Fox 3D
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Pushmo
Crashmo
Art Academy
Kingdom Hearts 3D
Etrian Odyssey IV

and Pokemon X for good measure.

I don't like to judge hardware outside of my own personal beliefs but I enjoy how "Nintendo" the XL feels. It's an immaculate piece of hardware. Vita obviously has the better handheld in terms of capabilities in the sense that it's more powerful, but I feel like Nintendo made a gaming device through and through. I mean it just looks like a game! I appreciate that quite a bit. I don't want to be coaxed to using this thing as a full fledged media device. PS Vita is a turnoff in that sense.

I splurged and bought a used Vita after I ended up working more hours than I had planned to. I figured why not, and also bought Persona 4 Golden. I will defend the Vita any day because I believe it's a well designed device with great games, but truthfully I never feel inclined to play the thing. That's just me however.

The lineup of PSVita games is shoddy at best, let's be honest. I acknowledged this before I bought one and I'll acknowledge it now: the handheld needs more games original to that platform. Not just ports of PS3 games. We all said this back when those N64 ports were the only worthwhile games for 3DS. It takes time to build a strong library of software and right now the Vita doesn't have it.

Also I can't agree with the notion that there can be "too much Mario". The Super Mario series is near-flawless and I would take a rehash any day. If you don't like Mario then that's cool too, but the 3DS doesn't lose points because you don't agree with their library. He's the mascot, expect there to be games with him in it. This is life.

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Seems like everyone in here is bashing the Vita for no reason. Vita is an amazing handheld that will eventually become great, be mad all you want you can't deny it, it won't just die out of no where. People thought Ps3 was going to die in its first 2 years, people also thought Psp was going to die. Ps3 would go on to outsell the 360, and also the Psp sells what over 70 million? The Vita is ahead of its time, just like the Psp was when it first was released in 2004, and didnt even start to sell great until the end of its lifetime. Lets get to Vitas lineup.

Ys: Celceta
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Phantasy Star Online 2
Hotline Miami
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Killzone: Mercenary
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Valhalla Knights 3
Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus
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Final Fantasy X HD
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Gravity Rush
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a psp/wii port
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate/Monster Hunter Tri are not PSP ports.

Anyway, the problem I (and many, I think) have with the Vita's library is that, in comparison, the 3DS's library has both games with broad, mainstream appeal that sell systems, and quality games with more limited appeal or smaller in scope. The Vita totally does have a lot of quality games with more limited appeal, but really lacks those with broad, mainstream appeal. A lot of those that could potentially have that appeal are home console ports or multiplats. If you told me the Vita has Sly Cooper, Metal Gear Solid, Mortal Kombat, PlayStation All Stars, Need for Speed, Final Fantasy, and Rayman, I'd be impressed, saying it's massive, except all those are home console ports/multiplats that people would rather get on the systems they were originally made for. A system lives and dies by its exclusives.

Every time the issue of games comes up, you always get in defense a list of all the games the system has or those the person is interested in, but people aren't literally saying the Vita doesn't have games, what they're saying is the Vita doesn't have much of the kind of software that acts as strong pillars to support a system. Every system in existence gets quality games, but they're all one-legged tables until they get strong, mainstream support.

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate itself isn't particularly impressive because, as I talked about before, it's a home console port, but what's truly important is that it served to prepare for the arrival of the real deal, Monster Hunter 4, by getting the PSP fanbase to follow the series on a new platform. This is the kind of stuff people are looking for. If Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, for example, was just the appetizer before an exclusive Metal Gear Solid installment, then that would be massive. But really it's just the publishers thinking porting to yet another system is just free money. It's a problem the Vita's library suffers from.

So yes, I definitely think the 3DS has a much stronger library at the moment (and that comes from the mouth of someone whose favorite game this gen is Gravity Rush), especially in Japan, but it's not to bash the Vita, it's just to say that it's currently in a bad situation that it could extricate itself from with, say, something like three quality, exclusive installments in huge franchises coming soon. Those would make for strong, healthy support that would really carry the Vita for some time.

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Seems like everyone in here is bashing the Vita for no reason. Vita is an amazing handheld that will eventually become great, be mad all you want you can't deny it, it won't just die out of no where. People thought Ps3 was going to die in its first 2 years, people also thought Psp was going to die. Ps3 would go on to outsell the 360, and also the Psp sells what over 70 million? The Vita is ahead of its time, just like the Psp was when it first was released in 2004, and didnt even start to sell great until the end of its lifetime. Lets get to Vitas lineup.

Ys: Celceta
Tearaway
Phantasy Star Online 2
Hotline Miami
Trails in the Flash
Soul Sacrafice
Killzone: Mercenary
Tales of Hearts R
Valhalla Knights 3
Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus
Muramasa Rebirth
Malicious
Rainbow Moon
God Eater 2
Final Fantasy X HD
Dj Max
Toukiden
Earth Defense Force 2017
Persona 4: Golden
Gravity Rush
Project Versus J
Dead or Alive 5+

Yea, I dont think the Vita is going to die anytime soon.
A lot of these games are very questionable, and some don't even have tentative release dates.
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Fire Emblem, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario Kart 7 (while yes there are alot of Mario games the fact he practically SELLS SYSTEMS makes him very relevant no matter how much you say he's being "milked"), the level 5 games, Kid Icarus: Uprising (who cares if a stand came with it it's still one the best handheld games to come out), Resident Evil Revelations/Mercenaries( so what if it's being ported, it's a handheld game going to consoles which is a testament to it's quality), Smash Bros.(coming soon, but I figured since you used future Vita games I'd do the same with 3DS), Pushmo, Crashmo, Gunman Clive, Mutant Mudds (plus the upcoming sequel as well as original game from Renegade Kid), Kindom Hearts Dream Drop Distance, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy, Animal Crossing, Code of Princess, Donkey Kong Country 3D, As well as a plethora of other games E-shop, retail, and future release that I can't think of right now. So to say that the Vita is destroying the 3DS right now is completely false. Not to say that Vita doesn't have any good games or A decent variety, however I am saying that the 3DS has just as many quality games as the Vita maybe more idk wut kind of games the Vita has as it's not really my cup of tea. So yea not only is the 3DS getting strong first party support from Nintendo, but it's also getting great 3rd party support sooooo yea. Anyone feel free to add anything I may have missed...I would've used rehashes, ports and multiplats, but I felt the original releases are sufficient enough to get my point across, but feel free to add whatever you like.
talk about tl;dr

Still, I can see vita getting tons of games down the road. Look at the 3DS, took almost a year to pick up steam. The vita is only a year old, hopefully if sony can get their act together, it'll get some games at E3.
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3DS and Vita are both equally good systems. Nuff' said.
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3DS and Vita are both equally good systems. Nuff' said.
Well each of those has advantages and disadvantages.

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3DS
+3D effect (innovation)
+Great library of games
+Good use of 2nd screen
+Came out earlier
+Pushes hardware to its limits
+Pleases the fans (great variety of games, Nintendo responds to fans' needs)

-Inferior graphics
-No Html5 or Flash support
-Screen reflects light
-Small progress from DS



PS Vita
+Great graphics
+Better sound
+Stronger hardware in general
+Complete Internet access
+Big progress from the PSP

-No innovation
-Poor library of games (at the moment AND in the future)
-Big and not really easy to carry with
-More expensive

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I think this sums up more or less the main drawbacks and advantages of the two systems.
And do not rage but I believe (and it is pretty obvious) that the PS Vita future releases are not that many and some of them are not that good.
There is no way that the PS Vita library will ever become as good as the 3DS one. It will improve but it will still be much more inferior.

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Well each of those has advantages and disadvantages.

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3DS
+3D effect (innovation)
+Great library of games
+Good use of 2nd screen
+Came out earlier
+Pushes hardware to its limits
+Pleases the fans (great variety of games, Nintendo responds to fans' needs)

-Inferior graphics
-No Html5 or Flash support
-Screen reflects light
-Small progress from DS



PS Vita
+Great graphics
+Better sound
+Stronger hardware in general
+Complete Internet access
+Big progress from the PSP

-No innovation
-Poor library of games (at the moment AND in the future)
-Big and not really easy to carry with
-More expensive

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I think this sums up more or less the main drawbacks and advantages of the two systems.
And do not rage but I believe (and it is pretty obvious) that the PS Vita future releases are not that many and some of them are not that good.
There is no way that the PS Vita library will ever become as good as the 3DS one. It will improve but it will still be much more inferior.
Im detecting a lot of bias in this post. Not an objective comparison.
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It's true, I own both systems and this is what I believe.
PS Vita is superior in every possible way in terms of hardware, but loses tragically when it comes to software.
I really hated the fact that 3DS has a lower resolution than PSP! I wanted to find my NES and destroy it with an uppercut! But Nintendo seemed to have understood their mistake and made many great games to fill the gap. Therefore my anger kinda faded.
Vita has so much potential in it, but sony doesn't take advantage of it...
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3DS
+3D effect (innovation)
+Great library of games
+Good use of 2nd screen
+Came out earlier
+Pushes hardware to its limits
+Pleases the fans (great variety of games, Nintendo responds to fans' needs)

-Inferior graphics
-No Html5 or Flash support
-Screen reflects light
-Small progress from DS




PS Vita
+Great graphics
+Better sound
+Stronger hardware in general
+Complete Internet access
+Big progress from the PSP

-No innovation
-Poor library of games (at the moment AND in the future)
-Big and not really easy to carry with
-More expensive

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All of these bolded points I have problems with. I will address them in order.

3DS

+Great library of games - This is a matter of opinion
+Came out earlier - This... how can you count this towards a system?
+Pushes hardware to its limits - No, not yet. Games can be up to 8GB, we are only seeing about half that.

-Screen reflects light - So does the Vita
-Small progress from DS - Not really. 3DS can easily do 3D games. 3D games on DS weren't that great.


PS Vita
+Better sound - Matter of opinion. Solved on both with headphones.

-Poor library of games - Opinion
-Big and not really easy to carry with - Fits in all my pockets. I use a case anyways 'cause it is fragile. Even then, 3DS includes the XL.
-More expensive - You said it is better hardware, therefore it should be more expensive.
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Actually, the 3DS has virtual surround sound while the Vita does not. I find the 3DS to have better sound, actually.

I prefer the Vita because I do not have a home console that I play on. However, with the release of many great 3DS games this year and not so many Vita titles I'm interested in, this will probably change.
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All of these bolded points I have problems with. I will address them in order.

3DS

+Great library of games - This is a matter of opinion
+Came out earlier - This... how can you count this towards a system?
+Pushes hardware to its limits - No, not yet. Games can be up to 8GB, we are only seeing about half that.

-Screen reflects light - So does the Vita
-Small progress from DS - Not really. 3DS can easily do 3D games. 3D games on DS weren't that great.


PS Vita
+Better sound - Matter of opinion. Solved on both with headphones.

-Poor library of games - Opinion
-Big and not really easy to carry with - Fits in all my pockets. I use a case anyways 'cause it is fragile. Even then, 3DS includes the XL.
-More expensive - You said it is better hardware, therefore it should be more expensive.
The library thing is not only opinion. It's sadly true.

When I say progress from the DS, I mean in general. The 3DS has a much better processor and therefore can play 3D games easily, but it is not better in every aspect, for example the screen resolution sucks.

In the sound argument I was wrong. 3DS has a better sound system as a guy mentioned above.

The fact that the 3DS came out 1st is a small excuse why it is underpowered, it is not enough though.

The price is just a fact, I know Vita is better, therefore more expensive.
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The library thing is not only opinion. It's sadly true.
Just no. It is an opinion whether something is good or not.

When I say progress from the DS, I mean in general. The 3DS has a much better processor and therefore can play 3D games easily, but it is not better in every aspect, for example the screen resolution sucks.

Screen resolution is still a lot better than the DS.

In the sound argument I was wrong. 3DS has a better sound system as a guy mentioned above.

The fact that the 3DS came out 1st is a small excuse why it is underpowered, it is not enough though.

A very bad excuse.

The price is just a fact, I know Vita is better, therefore more expensive.
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Not really. It's personal preference.
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I know it is personal opinion, but even statistically, 3DS games ARE way more than Vita games, more 3DS games are planned for release and 3DS games sell much more.
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I know it is personal opinion, but even statistically, 3DS games ARE way more than Vita games, more 3DS games are planned for release and 3DS games sell much more.
That does not say anything about their quality, though.
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3DS has sooo many more games coming, yet I have more Vita games I actually enjoy and games I'm looking foward to... How odd...
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Honestly I'm not overly impressed by anything from both camps this year so far. Still very content with both though.
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Luigi's Manson 2 alone puts the 3DS ahead of the Vita. The Vita is still terribly crippled by the awful memory card system. I am constantly having to delete games to make room for others, so when I want to go back and play a certain game, I have to re-download it (And vice-versa if I want to replay the other game).

The 3DS, although much lower in video/graphic quality, provides a much deeper experience through its massive library of retail and eShop games. The Vita is getting better, but it still feels miles behind the 3DS in terms of being a gaming machine.

However, when it comes to video playback, the Vita is AWESOME. Some times I prefer to just though some TV shows or a movie on my Vita before taking the train to work, because the video quality is just so awesome. If only there were more original games to continue complimenting that beautiful screen. *sigh*
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I prefer the Vita because I do not have a home console that I play on.
Exactly. That is me. No home console. So ports and remakes are great for me .

That is one thing people have to remember. Many people buy the Vita as an alternative to a home console. Not all of us own home consoles, and so ports and things are great for those of us without a home console. Sony could be trying to lure those customers in.

I don't have a dog in this fight, I enjoy both systems. We all know that the Vita is better graphically. That is a big deal to me. But the 3DS is still good enough graphically to enjoy it immensely. This year, both the 3DS and Vita have a ton of really great games being released. I n all honsty, the 3DS seems to have a better lineup. However, the Vita is not far behind as more and more games are being announced for it. There are more games for the 3DS I plan to buy, this point. However, that can change quickly. I hope both systems continue to do well as I enjoy both.
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Exactly. That is me. No home console. So ports and remakes are great for me .

That is one thing people have to remember. Many people buy the Vita as an alternative to a home console. Not all of us own home consoles, and so ports and things are great for those of us without a home console. Sony could be trying to lure those customers in.

I don't have a dog in this fight, I enjoy both systems. We all know that the Vita is better graphically. That is a big deal to me. But the 3DS is still good enough graphically to enjoy it immensely. This year, both the 3DS and Vita have a ton of really great games being released. I n all honsty, the 3DS seems to have a better lineup. However, the Vita is not far behind as more and more games are being announced for it. There are more games for the 3DS I plan to buy, this point. However, that can change quickly. I hope both systems continue to do well as I enjoy both.
Exactly, exactly. This guy gets it.
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Sony shouldnt have to worry about people that just don't want a home console though. There is a reason why the vita and ps3 are two actual separate things...it shoudnt just be a pseudo ps3 on the go, at least imo. It's not sony's problem if you don't want to get a ps3.
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Sony shouldnt have to worry about people that just don't want a home console though. There is a reason why the vita and ps3 are two actual separate things...it shoudnt just be a pseudo ps3 on the go, at least imo. It's not sony's problem if you don't want to get a ps3.
The problem is that the PS3 is a better deal at this point. If I can buy a PS3 with the complete inFAMOUS series and Uncharted 1/2 for $300, which also grants me access to the crapton of games available in the Playstation Store and the PS3's library...why would I want a Vita?
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Sony shouldnt have to worry about people that just don't want a home console though. There is a reason why the vita and ps3 are two actual separate things...it shoudnt just be a pseudo ps3 on the go, at least imo. It's not sony's problem if you don't want to get a ps3.
It isn't always about not wanting one. Some people don't have the means necessary to own one. I would love to have one.
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The problem is that the Wii is a better deal at this point. If I can buy a Wii with the complete Galaxy series and Xenoblade for $100, which also grants me access to the "crapton" of games available in the Wii Shop Channel and the Wii's library...why would I want a 3DS?
And I could apply this same bad logic for why the Wii U and PS4 shouldn't be bought.

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Honestly I'm not overly impressed by anything from both camps this year so far.
When budget console games look much better than regular priced handheld games...




not to mention the "premium" $50 games some publishers are pushing, yep. Nothing to be impressed about, handheld games are still behind the curve.
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And I could apply this same bad logic for why the Wii U and PS4 shouldn't be bought.



When budget console games look much better than regular priced handheld games...




not to mention the "premium" $50 games some publishers are pushing, yep. Nothing to be impressed about, handheld games are still behind the curve.
Although to be fair, wii mode on the wii u literally basically is a wii inside the wii u, so the logic is kind of different.
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I don't get the whole "some of us don't have a home console so home console ports on the Vita are great." Well, why don't you have a home console then if you want those games that much? Look up Amazon, you can get much better PS3 deals than Vita deals.

I don't like the principle behind filling a different system's library with ports. I bought a different system because I wanted something different.
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I don't get the whole "some of us don't have a home console so home console ports on the Vita are great." Well, why don't you have a home console then if you want those games that much? Look up Amazon, you can get much better PS3 deals than Vita deals.

I don't like the principle behind filling a different system's library with ports. I bought a different system because I wanted something different.
Wellll, like I told others, some of us don't have the means necessary to own a home console. It isn't that we don't want one, it can simply mean we just can't own one.

I am not saying ports are all we should see for the Vita, I am just saying that it is a portable system and there are people who either A) don't own a PS3 and would like to be able to play the games or B) just want a portable experience of those games. Also, you have to realize that it is hard for some of us to sit at home for hours spending time on video games and it is much easier for us to pull out a portable when we get chances throughout the day . I want to see exclusives also and we are getting some, but I am fine with having quite a few ports. Though the big names coming out for Vita, aside from FF, are exclusives.
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Wellll, like I told others, some of us don't have the means necessary to own a home console. It isn't that we don't want one, it can simply mean we just can't own one.
I know, I read your post. What means are they? You can buy the PS3 for the same price as the Vita with more stuff in it, so clearly it's not money.
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I know, I read your post. What means are they? You can buy the PS3 for the same price as the Vita with more stuff in it, so clearly it's not money.
Maybe travel, maybe time restriction, maybe an over bearing wife/husband who thinks games are bad. There are many possibilities.
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I dont know about you guys but Im in love with my Vita. Almost everyone who I know that has tried a Vita has said that they love it and bought one. I think handhelds in general are the best place to play jrpgs.
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I'll be in love with my Vita again whenever it gets as good as it was at launch. Ports, indie ports and Media Molecule experiments are not doing it for me. I look at the 3DS and its impressive library of high-quality exclusives and I don't understand why I should be in love with my Vita in its current state.
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Maybe travel, maybe time restriction, maybe an over bearing wife/husband who thinks games are bad. There are many possibilities.
Still doesn't give a valid excuse for a superfluous amount of ports and pseudo ports of ps3 and eventually ps4 games. Handhelds are meant to be different systems.
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Still doesn't give a valid excuse for a superfluous amount of ports and pseudo ports of ps3 and eventually ps4 games. Handhelds are meant to be different systems.
This argument is lame. Since when did the PS Vita getting console games become a bad thing? While it's good to have its own IP's, yes, but having ports are perfectly fine.
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I decided to stick with handheld gaming for the time being, until the next generation consoles are released. With that being said, I don't currently own a home console, and the Vita makes a pretty good replacement for that.

Though I couldn't agree more with Yuoke. I feel like one of Sony's biggest issues is the fact that they're still treating the Vita like a PS3 in the palm of your hand. They need to start releasing more unique portable games that'll interest more people. Releasing ports of older games are cool and all, but that might not be enough to interest people who played those same games when they were new on their PS3, or even PS2.

A current example that comes to mind is the upcoming releases of multiple indie games. I'm really excited to play those games on my Vita because, besides Binding of Isaac, I haven't played them before. But there are plenty of other Vita owners that have played those games before and could care less about having them on a handheld.
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This argument is lame. Since when did the PS Vita getting console games become a bad thing? While it's good to have its own IP's, yes, but having ports are perfectly fine.
Not when it results in a lack of original games.

I haven't played my PS Vita for over an hour in a long time. Last game I bought was Ragnarok Odyssey and there doesn't seem to be many great games coming to the Vita in NA this year.

Meanwhile, the 3DS has a ton of games I want/have got this year. Fire Emblem, Luigi's Mansion, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Animal Crossing, Pokemon X/Y, Mario and Luigi, and multiple other eShop titles. I mean, what games does the Vita have announced? Soul Sacrifice, Killzone, Tearaway, a ton of old indie titles, a ton of remakes. People expect Sony to drop the price, but they won't because it won't be effective if they don't have any games accompanying the price drop. Why doesn't Sony announce Vita games?
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This argument is lame. Since when did the PS Vita getting console games become a bad thing? While it's good to have its own IP's, yes, but having ports are perfectly fine.
It's very bad.

On the first-party side, it means that Sony invested money they could have used for Vita-exclusive games when it needed it the most in making PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale, Sly Cooper 4, and Ratchet & Clank Full Frontal Assault available for the PS3 as well. Imagine if Luigi's Mansion 2, Fire Emblem Awakening and Paper Mario were on both the 3DS and the Wii.

On the third-party side, it means that instead of having developers bet on the Vita by releasing exclusive experiences, they know that all they have to do to make money off the Vita is to port their PS3 games to the Vita and it doesn't even have to sell well, it's basically all free money.

Those ports aren't "in addition" to exclusives, they take the place of exclusives. Take the money spent on 10 ports and make me four or five exclusives. I'll take that any day of the week and I can't understand why people don't see how this is a major issue with the Vita.
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This argument is lame. Since when did the PS Vita getting console games become a bad thing? While it's good to have its own IP's, yes, but having ports are perfectly fine.
I really don't see where the argument is lame at all, and I definitely don't think it is fine, and obviously others agree. One of the main reasons why it is a bigger issue on top of just too many ports being bad in general is that the one clear thing that the vita has over the 3ds and its main selling point is being technologically superior. It's hard to show that is far better in those regards when so many games aren't completely original and unique to the vita. And the few that are like gravity rush aren't exactly market that much.
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Handhelds have always been popular, I myself like them because I can go to Starbucks and play games while I drink my coffee - portability is king for me.
I'm sure you could get a PS3 for the same price as a VITA - however I can't play a PS3 while waiting inline at the bank either.

I myself would be surprised if a VITA had better graphics than a PS4 - the PS4 should have 6 times the memory and twice as many cores.

I have a VITA because I love playing Persona 4 Golden. And I have a PSP to play Persona 3 Portable. Love those games. I bought my VITA and PSP units used so I got a good deal.

Now I feel that my 3DS has more games - even JRPGs like Soul Hacker are coming out for it.

Now some FPS games would be nice - but I do have a few on my VITA.

Last generation, all systems sold well and each had quite a few games - each had exclusive titles that begged you to buy the system to play.

Now this generation just started so we won't know final numbers for a while. The VITA is off to a slow start, but the PSP started out slow too and so did the PS3 and they turned out just fine.
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I know, I read your post. What means are they? You can buy the PS3 for the same price as the Vita with more stuff in it, so clearly it's not money.
Well, obviously money is not the issue. If it were, I would have a PS3. I used to think I was the only person in the world with the situation I am in, but you would be surprised how many others are in very similar situations and can not own a home console. No one has to justify why they can't own a PS3, it doesn't matter. Some of us just can't. You seem to think that just because you have your own little area, with your own little space, that anyone should be able to hook up a PS3 or Xbox 360 or Wii U or whatever. It isn't that simple for all of us. Even if there are some of us who could own a PS3 and just don't want to, what does it matter to you? There is a big difference between setting up a gaming station with a TV, console, something to put it on, and just being able to purchase a small portable gaming device to use and take out whenever you want. Big difference. You may have bought the Vita for exclusives, but you have to realize that a lot of customers of the Vita bought the system as an alternative. I am not trying to cause a problem or argue with you buddy, I am just stating my case and the case of others I know. The Vita can be a success for one person and a failure for another. Doesn't mean I don't love my 3DS I do, but I also love my Vita for the exclusives it does have and the ports that I can play without having to have a console.
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It's very bad.

On the first-party side, it means that Sony invested money they could have used for Vita-exclusive games when it needed it the most in making PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale, Sly Cooper 4, and Ratchet & Clank Full Frontal Assault available for the PS3 as well. Imagine if Luigi's Mansion 2, Fire Emblem Awakening and Paper Mario were on both the 3DS and the Wii.

On the third-party side, it means that instead of having developers bet on the Vita by releasing exclusive experiences, they know that all they have to do to make money off the Vita is to port their PS3 games to the Vita and it doesn't even have to sell well, it's basically all free money.

Those ports aren't "in addition" to exclusives, they take the place of exclusives. Take the money spent on 10 ports and make me four or five exclusives. I'll take that any day of the week and I can't understand why people don't see how this is a major issue with the Vita.
I don't get this. If PS3 ports are easy to develop for the Vita, then why would that affect exclusives? By giving the Vita plenty of ports it opens up a developer's market. All Sony needs to do is focus on new/original IP's. Once it gets those, the Vita will have a very solid library.
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I don't get this. If PS3 ports are easy to develop for the Vita, then why would that affect exclusives? By giving the Vita plenty of ports it opens up a developer's market. All Sony needs to do is focus on new/original IP's. Once it gets those, the Vita will have a very solid library.
When exactly are they going to focus on those new and original ip's? At the end of the vita lifetime?
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They haven't made a ton but last year there were three new retail IPs (Gravity Rush, PSABR, Smart As), this year two (Soul Sacrifice, Tearaway), plus various downloadable games. It's not the amount I want because I think Gravity Rush, Tearaway, and the Over My Dead Body sequel (prequel was never localized) are the most interesting handheld games this gen. But it's not like Nintendo and third parties have done or are doing better. They all kind of suck on that front.
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They haven't made a ton but last year there were three new retail IPs (Gravity Rush, PSABR, Smart As), this year two (Soul Sacrifice, Tearaway), plus various downloadable games. It's not the amount I want because I think Gravity Rush, Tearaway, and the Over My Dead Body sequel (prequel was never localized) are the most interesting handheld games this gen. But it's not like Nintendo and third parties have done or are doing better. They all kind of suck on that front.
Are you talking new Ip's?
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When exactly are they going to focus on those new and original ip's? At the end of the vita lifetime?
This stuff unfortunatelly usually happen later on...
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But it's not like Nintendo and third parties have done or are doing better. They all kind of suck on that front.
By "kind of suck on that front" do you mean in new IPs or in good games exactly? Cause if you mean good games, Fire Emblem and Luigis Mansion would like to have a word with you.
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By "kind of suck on that front" do you mean in new IPs or in good games exactly? Cause if you mean good games, Fire Emblem and Luigis Mansion would like to have a word with you.
He already answered that a couple posts down.
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I first read this as "Official PSY Vs 3DS"
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I first read this as "Official PSY Vs 3DS"
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"PSI vs. 3DS: a guide on how not to psychically set your 3DS on fire when you get frustrated with a game."

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One thing I like about DSs over PSP/PSVs is the fact that the screen flips closed so the possibility of stuff in your pocket scratching it is very unlikely.

Though the 3DS has this problem where the bottom screens edges can scratch the top screen since its wider, putting a cloth between the screens when you close it seems to stop this though.
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The problem with the scratches appears only in the first 3DSes and the newer ones have been fixed.
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The problem with the scratches appears only in the first 3DSes and the newer ones have been fixed.
By newer ones, do you mean the xl? Because I hear some, but less, still get minor scratching on new og 3ds's.
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The problem with the scratches appears only in the first 3DSes and the newer ones have been fixed.
Well I'm not risking it with the XL, I'd rather not find out if the problem is still an issue.
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Well I'm not risking it with the XL, I'd rather not find out if the problem is still an issue.
With the putting the cloth between the screens....I personally wouldn't bother. It's sort of a mini hassle to do, and I already know at some point I'm going to close the 3ds Without doing that. As long as the scratching isn't terrible.
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With the putting the cloth between the screens....I personally wouldn't bother. It's sort of a mini hassle to do, and I already know at some point I'm going to close the 3ds Without doing that. As long as the scratching isn't terrible.
Actually I find it handy. It means I always have a cloth on hand if I happen to get fingerprints on either screen (not sure how I get prints on the top screen...) and the cloth I have fits perfectly when folded over, which is interesting because it it works way better than the ones actually designed for the system.
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Hate to say it, but for the first time I'm going to be playing my 3DS more for the foreseeable future. I prefer the Vita for hardware / playing on far more, but Sony isn't giving me enough effort right now. I know it's not entirely their fault but Nintendo is continuing to pump great first parties one after another. I really hope E3 changes my mind. Not regretting my purchase at all, but I really think Sony can do better.
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Actually I fear that Nintendo is going to slow down on 3DS games to focus on the Wii U starting in 2014. I sure hope not, the 3DS has been building a great reputation among gamers recently. Not that the Wii U shouldn't be at the center of Nintendo's attention, but there are surely ways to make equal space there for both.

Vita, yeah, to me Sony isn't trying hard enough at the moment. I only game on handhelds, so I can tell when a company greatly favors its home consoles. Hopefully with E3 we'll see a shift in that attitude, but with the PS3 doing as well as it is and the PS4 being so critical to Sony's success for the next decade, I think they're still going to sacrifice the Vita.
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Actually I fear that Nintendo is going to slow down on 3DS games to focus on the Wii U starting in 2014. I sure hope not, the 3DS has been building a great reputation among gamers recently. Not that the Wii U shouldn't be at the center of Nintendo's attention, but there are surely ways to make equal space there for both.

Vita, yeah, to me Sony isn't trying hard enough at the moment. I only game on handhelds, so I can tell when a company greatly favors its home consoles. Hopefully with E3 we'll see a shift in that attitude, but with the PS3 doing as well as it is and the PS4 being so critical to Sony's success for the next decade, I think they're still going to sacrifice the Vita.
I don't fear that at all, with games like Yoshi's Island, Link to the Past 2, Mario Party 3DS and possibly Super Smash Bros. 4 I don't see them slowing down on the 3DS games in 2014. They have plenty of resources to focus on both and we'll see that come the end of this year and into the next when both 3DS and Wii U get AAA titles.
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I have a Vita, it is somewhere in a draw lol. Not enough games to keep me entertained. I hope that changes though. It is a great device, just does not have the catalog to support it as of yet.
I heard they are bringing Rainbow Moon on the Vita. that will make me pick up my device again.

So far i am liking the 3DS more... well, to be honest, i like Nintendo's systems better. Nintendo make a mean handheld system. So they will always win in that department. Not to say Sony do not make good handhelds, it is just Nintendo make better ones with better games. The Vita is kind of power hungry.

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Actually I fear that Nintendo is going to slow down on 3DS games to focus on the Wii U starting in 2014. I sure hope not, the 3DS has been building a great reputation among gamers recently. Not that the Wii U shouldn't be at the center of Nintendo's attention, but there are surely ways to make equal space there for both.

Vita, yeah, to me Sony isn't trying hard enough at the moment. I only game on handhelds, so I can tell when a company greatly favors its home consoles. Hopefully with E3 we'll see a shift in that attitude, but with the PS3 doing as well as it is and the PS4 being so critical to Sony's success for the next decade, I think they're still going to sacrifice the Vita.
Sorry, i highly doubt Nintendo will slow down production on 3DS games. That is their biggest profit margin. I do not see them stopping or slowing down any games on the 3DS. I mean it already takes 2 years for games to hit the EU market lol.

Sony's device is gorgeous, they did try hard enough in the hardware development. The problem being that devs do not want to really touch the device when they can make more profit on home consoles. And if and when the Vita picks up more, devs will turn their attention more to the Vita. In any case, it did better then the god forsaken PSP GO. That device was fail. Vita has a small catalog, but yes they need more games to drive the handheld up in sales. But they are placing all there eggs in the launch and sales on the PS4 (Guilty, i pre-ordered a PS4 already).

They will NEVER do as well as the 3DS
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Actually I fear that Nintendo is going to slow down on 3DS games to focus on the Wii U starting in 2014. I sure hope not, the 3DS has been building a great reputation among gamers recently. Not that the Wii U shouldn't be at the center of Nintendo's attention, but there are surely ways to make equal space there for both.

Vita, yeah, to me Sony isn't trying hard enough at the moment. I only game on handhelds, so I can tell when a company greatly favors its home consoles. Hopefully with E3 we'll see a shift in that attitude, but with the PS3 doing as well as it is and the PS4 being so critical to Sony's success for the next decade, I think they're still going to sacrifice the Vita.
Now that Nintendo has got most of the casual-audience/system-seller software out of the way, I hope they'll focus on more niche/core first party titles in 2014 when the userbase has grown. Stuff like Metroid, Advance Wars, F-Zero.

Nintendo has been hiring a lot of new employees and outsourcing/partnering with other developers so I think they'll be good.

There was a rumour that said "it might be beneficial to own both 3DS and Wii U in the future" so maybe they're making an unified VC library or going to stream games like PS4/Vita do.


As far as the Vita goes, Sony basically already admitted that they've given up on it by only predicting 5 million Vitas/PSPs between March '13 and March '14. That tells us that they don't have anything big planned for it at all.
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It's amazing to think what the reputations are of the two, compared to what they were exactly two years ago at this time with the 3ds being out for months and the vita months from release.
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Actually I fear that Nintendo is going to slow down on 3DS games to focus on the Wii U starting in 2014. I sure hope not, the 3DS has been building a great reputation among gamers recently. Not that the Wii U shouldn't be at the center of Nintendo's attention, but there are surely ways to make equal space there for both.

Vita, yeah, to me Sony isn't trying hard enough at the moment. I only game on handhelds, so I can tell when a company greatly favors its home consoles. Hopefully with E3 we'll see a shift in that attitude, but with the PS3 doing as well as it is and the PS4 being so critical to Sony's success for the next decade, I think they're still going to sacrifice the Vita.
I hope they push more in the Wii U section, there haven't been a lot of ground breaking releases for the system yet.

Meanwhile on the 3DS things are booming!

Hows the Vita game selection? I actually don't know. Might have to look.
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I hope they push more in the Wii U section, there haven't been a lot of ground breaking releases for the system yet.

Meanwhile on the 3DS things are booming!

Hows the Vita game selection? I actually don't know. Might have to look.
Vita section. Not that great. We have Terraria and Rainbow Moon coming the end of the year. But in saying that, there has not been that many great titles hitting the Vita.
There are some good indie games, like Retro City Rampage, but no great AAA titles for a while. My Vita has been collecting dust for a while now. Been on the 3DS and PS3.

Yes, they need to develop more titles for the WiiU. I heard there is a Zombie U 2 coming (maybe being shown at E3) but i have not seen many titles that make me want to go running out and buying them. Besides Pikmin 3.

Well that is my opinion on these two systems, so don't bite my head off if any one has a different point of view
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There are some good indie games, like Retro City Rampage
Wait Retro City Rampage came out! Is it any good?
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Sony's device is gorgeous, they did try hard enough in the hardware development. The problem being that devs do not want to really touch the device
I think Sony tried hard at the beginning of the Vita's life. It got a lot of first-party games in rapid succession in the launch window. After that, their efforts diminished. I guess they imagined third parties would even the balance. I felt bad for Sony in the first few months of the Vita, but the closer we got to Christmas and the clearer it became that first-party efforts were slowing down. So I do blame Sony now for not putting enough into it. They say it a lot, "it's a marathon, not a sprint," but their Vita software support was a sprint in a marathon race. Really promising at first then really disappointing.

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It's amazing to think what the reputations are of the two, compared to what they were exactly two years ago at this time with the 3ds being out for months and the vita months from release.
It seems the Vita is building a good reputation as a misunderstood underdog, so that's good. But I don't think it's going to stop being misunderstood anytime soon. I'm of the opinion that the market it's reaching is tiny, that it's meeting a need that isn't actually as strong as Sony thought.

As Joba said above, predicting under 5 mil. for the Vita this fiscal year shows that they admit their strategy isn't working, as you'd expect them to have higher expectations if they thought a price cut, Soul Sacrifice, Killzone and Tearaway would work for them. Hopefully they don't just give up after realizing their strategy wasn't the right one. I think it's too late for the Vita to be a success, but it's not too late for it to appeal to more than just a narrow segment of the market. The GameCube sold terribly, but you wouldn't know it based on how people talk about it and its games.
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I can understand its hard for Sony to put a ton of effort into it with PS4 around the corner... but I they better get their act together sooner than later.
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Wait Retro City Rampage came out! Is it any good?
Yeah it came out a while ago. It is not too bad. Have not played it enough to get into it as i am currently dealing with a backlog of games on the 3DS and PS3 and with two more titles around the corner, The Last Of Us (PS3) and Animal Crossing New Leaf (3DS) i do not see me playing it anytime soon.

Over all it is good, a tad hard to control, so has a slight learning curve (for vehicles mainly). It reminds me of the first GTA but in 16 bit style.
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Sory but I have 3d is not enough to beat the vita sory I'd played both so vita

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You bring up some excellent points.
Sarcasm? Not too sure lol!

Regardless of "3D" or Touch screen, the 3DS still has a better library then the Vita. I own both myself.

On another note all Plus users got Rayman for free on the Vita. Been playing it, and must say. Do not see what all the hype is about. Not that great in my view.
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Sarcasm? Not too sure lol!

Regardless of "3D" or Touch screen, the 3DS still has a better library then the Vita. I own both myself.

On another note all Plus users got Rayman for free on the Vita. Been playing it, and must say. Do not see what all the hype is about. Not that great in my view.
After actually taking a look at the Vita's game library it seems like most of the games are just remakes/ports of games that were previously on the PS3 or PS2.

Which I guess would make the Vita good if you are new to Playstation, but I don't see how it would please Playstation fans. I know I'd care about the 3DS less if they had just kept craning out 3D remakes as much as I like OoT and Starfox.
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After actually taking a look at the Vita's game library it seems like most of the games are just remakes/ports of games that were previously on the PS3 or PS2.

Which I guess would make the Vita good if you are new to Playstation, but I don't see how it would please Playstation fans. I know I'd care about the 3DS less if they had just kept craning out 3D remakes as much as I like OoT and Starfox.
Yes most of the catalog is remakes and ports, they are getting quite old, as i grew up playing PS and Master System i have already played all the games they have on PS and PS2 titles.
Then came the Gameboy

You are 100% right, if you are new, then great - there is a decent library size, counting all the remakes and ports.

If Nintendo start bringing out older remake or ports of older games and not much new, yes the system will get a bit stale after a while.
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With the promise of remote play on the Vita from the new PS4 then it could be a very handy system indeed. Still no where near as cheap and accessible as the 3DS though.
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With the promise of remote play on the Vita from the new PS4 then it could be a very handy system indeed. Still no where near as cheap and accessible as the 3DS though.
On top of that, unlike the WiiU, you will have to buy PS4 and the Vita seperately in order to achieve remote play.

I seriously doubt that people will be willing to spend another 250 bucks just so that they can play off-screen. You must also consider that PS4 will probably be pretty expensive itself. At the end you will have spent more than 800$ to buy both systems and still have no games to play.
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Honestly, on the Wii U that feature was more of a novelty than anything else.

I don't really see it being a major selling point for the Vita/PS4.
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Sometimes I feel that the same company that is making the ps4 is run by a completely different company than the vita.....that's how it looks like

The vita had it...the system was priced right for the hardware you are getting, a good launch with a few killer games and a promise that there would be less ports and more exclusives(sony did say that)

The vita launched just when the 3DS was starting to recover but sony blew it with overpriced memory cards

Later on it was all downhill from there, slow coming ports, only a few exclusives here and there blah. Just a mess.

Vita could have been the handheld that gave the 3DS some trouble but sony dropped the ball and now they are trying to turn it into a ps4 accessory to save it. Freaking sony is so stupid at times, hard to believe this is the same company that made the ps2 and ps4
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Sony may blow it with the PS4 too, who knows, the thing isn't out. It really comes down to what is the lead console for 3rd party developers. As for the Vita. I got burned by the PSP, I also got burned by the vita. Dispite how cool the handheld is, I need to learn self control. I also got burned by buying the 3ds at launch too.

Who am I kidding though, a new item comes out and I buy it. The only way I'll stop is if I move to China where all video games are banned.
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As of now I have a difference stance on the Vita situation and its basically the same thing they're planning to do with the PS4 when it comes out.

The Vita's been wisely treated like the PSP was during the end of its lifetime , as a niche system. They're letting indies and Japanese localizers have the spotlight, and I think it's a great strategy , because that was definitely the PSP's specialty.
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The vita ps4 stuff will be ok. It will be cool if they use it for battlefield 4 commander mode, or games that had wii u specific features they could just add an option for.
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Honestly, the primary reason I prefer the 3DS is the games. I have always been a huge fan of Nintendo games, many of them exclusives, and Sony has only had one franchise that I use to like, recently I have fallen out of love for Final Fantasy though. Nintendo has Pokemon, my absolute favorite game, Nintendogs, and Luigi+Mario games as exclusive titles I just can't live without. I am biased, I admit, I grew up with Nintendo.
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I grew up with Nintendo too, but I enjoy other companies. "I grew up with Nintendo" is always the primary excuse people seem to have.
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I grew up with Nintendo too, but I enjoy other companies. "I grew up with Nintendo" is always the primary excuse people seem to have.
Not really an excuse, it's more of a psychological reasoning, like chicken noodle soup, comfort games and comfort foods. Life is 90% personal taste, and personal taste is influenced most by what we grow up experiencing.

With gaming it's often characters and gameplay that people become comfortable with. When a Nintendo fan see Mario on the front of a building, it's like you feel welcome there, even if it's your first time stepping through the door. Or Link, or Kirby. For Sega fans it's probably Sonic. Not sure about Sony fans though.

When you strike up a conversation about games and someone mentions a game you love, that connection becomes almost instant friendship, like someone mentioning Nyarlethotep to an HP Lovecraft fan, you know you have that common ground.

People pick preferences and at some point those preferences become almost set in stone, because they become comfortable. Not to say that they can't change, but such changes are rare. A wise man once said:

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I am biased, I admit, I grew up with Nintendo.
Me also, SNES is where I took my first steps as a gamer, then I hit PS2.

To conclude:

PS Vita doesn't have Fire-Emblem: Awakening so instantly loses.
Why are we even discussing this, people???
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Me also, SNES is where I took my first steps as a gamer, then I hit PS2.

To conclude:

PS Vita doesn't have Fire-Emblem: Awakening so instantly loses.
Why are we even discussing this, people???
I am playing that game through a second time already, looking forward to my third time playing it through as well. Only Pokemon can sway my interest from FE:A.
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I grew up with Nintendo like a lot of you did Im 32. I also enjoy the other systems like Sony and Microsoft. The reason I like the 3DS more than the Vita is because I think it has a much better game library with a lot more 3rd party support. Honestly I have only tried the Vita in the stores. I bought a PSP 2000 when it came out and I still ended up playing my DS lite a lot more just because it had better games in my opinion. Thats why im not supporting it this time around. The only systems I ever usually play anymore are XBOX 360 because of XBOX Live and my 3DS. I have not been happy with Nintendo home consoles since the N64 I do believe Sony and XBOX have the upper hand in home consoles because of third party support. I mean how were third parties supposed to be putting thier games on a system that uses a wii mote. I am glad that I do finally see a lot of potential with this new Wii U at least 3rd party developers have a awsome twin stick control they can now apply thier games to. I really enjoy Nintendo handhelds ever since the DS lite. To me it seems like Nintendo handhelds get a lot more 3rd party support.

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I would like to have a PS Vita but at the moment I am thoroughly enjoying my 3DS XL.

It has the games I want (e.g. Pokemon)

sometimes I do want to play PS Vita release and PS/Xbox games in general, such as GTA V but atm I am happy with my 3DS
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I had a really hard time choosing between the 3DS XL and the PSVita. The only real reason that I chose to get a 3DS XL was the actual convenience it offers when it comes to memory. The SD card is super cheap while the Vita breaks the bank to upgrade memory.

Plus, I do have to admit to the nostalgia of playing games with the characters I grew up with. Especially Link (I love Link).

I support Sony but I really think that the 3DS is just a better system for those on a budget due to the systems features and accessories cost.
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I just don't feel like Sony has good exclusives on the Vita. Even their home consoles are pretty lackluster in the games I really want for them. I have a ps3 but only have GT5 for it and mostly use it as a blu ray player.
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I just don't feel like Sony has good exclusives on the Vita. Even their home consoles are pretty lackluster in the games I really want for them. I have a ps3 but only have GT5 for it and mostly use it as a blu ray player.
I love Playstation exclusives.... I wouldn't even own a PS4 if it wasn't for those exclusives.
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I'm just gonna throw my two cents in.

Power and hardware wise, the Vita murders the 3DS. The 3DS is comparable to the GameCube, whereas, the Vita is comparable to the PS3.

Graphics wise, again, the Vita wins. The 3DS can display 480p at the most. The Vita can display 720p, because it has HD games.

The PS Vita has PS Plus, and if you aren't familiar with it, PS Plus is similar to Xbox Live, but with PS Plus, they give you free monthly games. Good ones.

Camera wise, the 3DS has a similar camera to a 2005 mobile phone. Unsurprisingly, Vita wins here too.

Game wise, the 3DS slices the Vita to bits. You got games like Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Zelda, Mario and Animal Crossing. Vita has Tearaway, Minecraft Killzone and a few other goodies.

Overall, the Vita is better in every single way except in the games department.
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I'm just gonna throw my two cents in.

Power and hardware wise, the Vita murders the 3DS. The 3DS is comparable to the GameCube, whereas, the Vita is comparable to the PS3.

Graphics wise, again, the Vita wins. The 3DS can display 480p at the most. The Vita can display 720p, because it has HD games.

The PS Vita has PS Plus, and if you aren't familiar with it, PS Plus is similar to Xbox Live, but with PS Plus, they give you free monthly games. Good ones.

Camera wise, the 3DS has a similar camera to a 2005 mobile phone. Unsurprisingly, Vita wins here too.

Game wise, the 3DS slices the Vita to bits. You got games like Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Zelda, Mario and Animal Crossing. Vita has Tearaway, Minecraft Killzone and a few other goodies.

Overall, the Vita is better in every single way except in the games department.
Overall, the Vita is better in every single way except in the games department...
Which is the one that matters the most, and is the reason why Nintendo is always the front runner when it comes to handhelds. What is the point of all that technology, if there isn't an abundance of quality games to take advantage of it?
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Overall, the Vita is better in every single way except in the games department...
Which is the one that matters the most, and is the reason why Nintendo is always the front runner when it comes to handhelds. What is the point of all that technology, if there isn't an abundance of quality games to take advantage of it?
Yea, I was going to say the same thing. It's like in a football game if one team dominates in all the stats and in every single way except for the score, which is all that matters. In the end, games are all that really matter and what will win any console war.
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But it begs the question "Why?". I just can't but wonder why people and developers are so afraid to make more games on Vita. Seriously would prefer to play most my portable games on Vita. I think games like RE:R should have been on Vita to begin with, or Monster Hunter, but that's just me. I'm fine with Nintendo having their exclusives on 3DS but I really prefer playing more graphic intensive / console experience style games on Vita.

There is one clear advantage to 3DS to me though, Street Pass. Near is no wear near as good as Street Pass.

Lastly I'm not entirely agreeing that the 3DS game line up is better on 3DS, but I think objectively I understand why most people would think that.
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But it begs the question "Why?". I just can't but wonder why people and developers are so afraid to make more games on Vita. Seriously would prefer to play most my portable games on Vita. I think games like RE:R should have been on Vita to begin with, or Monster Hunter, but that's just me. I'm fine with Nintendo having their exclusives on 3DS but I really prefer playing more graphic intensive / console experience style games on Vita.

There is one clear advantage to 3DS to me though, Street Pass. Near is no wear near as good as Street Pass.

Lastly I'm not entirely agreeing that the 3DS game line up is better on 3DS, but I think objectively I understand why most people would think that.
Why? Because the vita is seeling terribly, and it is selling terribly because of the lack of games. It is a never ending vicious.cycle.
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But it begs the question "Why?". I just can't but wonder why people and developers are so afraid to make more games on Vita. Seriously would prefer to play most my portable games on Vita. I think games like RE:R should have been on Vita to begin with, or Monster Hunter, but that's just me. I'm fine with Nintendo having their exclusives on 3DS but I really prefer playing more graphic intensive / console experience style games on Vita
Answer to "why" is pretty simple. Developing a full-size console game with cutting-edge graphics is not financially feasible with the way portable games sell in the west.

Basically Vita is overpowered because no one will want to make a AAA game that costs 100 million USD to a market that doesn't sell in western countries. 3DS has just enough power to be able to be a smart investment for the developers and a proper enough game for the gamers.

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But it begs the question "Why?". I just can't but wonder why people and developers are so afraid to make more games on Vita. Seriously would prefer to play most my portable games on Vita. I think games like RE:R should have been on Vita to begin with, or Monster Hunter, but that's just me. I'm fine with Nintendo having their exclusives on 3DS but I really prefer playing more graphic intensive / console experience style games on Vita.

There is one clear advantage to 3DS to me though, Street Pass. Near is no wear near as good as Street Pass.

Lastly I'm not entirely agreeing that the 3DS game line up is better on 3DS, but I think objectively I understand why most people would think that.
I think, like me, most people don't want handheld, console experiences. They want handheld, handheld experiences. And that is why Nintendo is the leader. A lot of people don't see the value of the Vita, and Sony is having trouble showing the value. Using it as a gimped PS4 controller/screen combo isn't terribly valuable at the moment, IMO.
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I'd sure as hell love a portable PS3!

I agree, Monster Hunter 4 should of been a Vita exclusive, and a few more games like God of War and LittleBigPlanet need to be released.

I can see Minecraft as a system seller. Many people, myself included would like a true portable Minecraft experience, and that's what the Vita offers.

The Vita games aren't bad, it's just that most of the Vita's must haves can be bought on the PS3.

But we are forgetting one thing guys.

Pokemon, Zelda, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing and all of those games that turned the 3DS around were released last year, in the second year of the 3DS' life.

This is the start of the Vita's second year, and I think Sony will do everything they can to make the Vita a must have by the end of 2014.
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I think, like me, most people don't want handheld, console experiences. They want handheld, handheld experiences. And that is why Nintendo is the leader. A lot of people don't see the value of the Vita, and Sony is having trouble showing the value. Using it as a gimped PS4 controller/screen combo isn't terribly valuable at the moment, IMO.
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Answer to "why" is pretty simple. Developing a full-size console game with cutting-edge graphics is not financially feasible with the way portable games sell in the west.

Basically Vita is overpowered because no one will want to make a AAA game that costs 100 million USD to a market that doesn't sell in western countries. 3DS has just enough power to be able to be a smart investment for the developers and a proper enough game for the gamers.

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Not even gonna bother with the inconsistensies in Adam3000's post, but the general message of his post is true.
Truth to your posts. This makes me go back to Vita's original vision, something that it seems like everyone including devs / sony is forgetting already. The games that stuck out to me so far have been Unit 13, Hot Shots Golf, and Motorstorm RC. I'm not saying there aren't other fantastic games on the Vita but the reason these delivered the best Vita specific experiences were because of the way they made the portable games competitive and easy on the go.

If you've played any of them you would have seen they were built from the ground up to beat your friends times / scores ect, some of them giving you more competition using friends from near. It's hard to describe unless you've played them but I thought they were a perfect portable experience with the perfect style of portable competition. The only major flaw in this is more games need to do this, and people need to be told or convinced how much fun this can be.

Sorry if that isn't clear but I had a blast competing with my friends in those games, and Vita offered a different experience than 3DS or console here.
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I also preferred the Vita version of Jetpack Joyride. The back touch was the perfect input device. Got your finger(s) out of the damn way!!!!

I enjoyed the Vita for the year I owned it, but unfortunately, it ended up collecting dust more often than getting played. If it gets some software that "I" am interested in, I'll probably buy it again later on down the road...
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Well, I was thinking that there aren't many good games up until now for the Vita but Tearaway has almost persuaded me to buy a Vita singlehandedly. It's really rare to find a game with such charm. Good for Vita owners who have little to play with. If there are some more games like this in the future, I may consider buying a used Vita or something.
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I got it for $10, love my playstation retail loyalty site . Half my games came from that site.
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Truth to your posts. This makes me go back to Vita's original vision, something that it seems like everyone including devs / sony is forgetting already. The games that stuck out to me so far have been Unit 13, Hot Shots Golf, and Motorstorm RC. I'm not saying there aren't other fantastic games on the Vita but the reason these delivered the best Vita specific experiences were because of the way they made the portable games competitive and easy on the go.

If you've played any of them you would have seen they were built from the ground up to beat your friends times / scores ect, some of them giving you more competition using friends from near. It's hard to describe unless you've played them but I thought they were a perfect portable experience with the perfect style of portable competition. The only major flaw in this is more games need to do this, and people need to be told or convinced how much fun this can be.

Sorry if that isn't clear but I had a blast competing with my friends in those games, and Vita offered a different experience than 3DS or console here.
Looks like this game will fit the bill on a good game for Vita ( the competitive scoring aspect of it ):
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The 2 companies(Sony and Nintendo) approach their hand held systems differently. Nintendo has insane success with their hand held gaming systems that allow their TV based consoles to coast by no matter how good or bad the consoles are doing. I.E., the Wii U may not be the run away success that the Wii was but the 3DS is doing so well that they don't have to worry so much and let the console have it's ups and downs. This means that both the 3DS and Wii U are going nowhere and are here to stay through the duration of their respective life's which makes either a safe purchase.

For Sony, their TV based consoles do so well it allows them to experiment around with their portables. Basically, the PS3(and now PS4) is such a cash cow that it allows the PSP(and now PS Vita) to hang around no matter how many people buy one. It's just another outlet for them to try and persuade people to their brand. So basically the PS4 and PS Vita are also safe purchases as neither of them are going anywhere until the next generation. One thing I might add(totally opinion) I don't think Sony ever intended the PS Vita to be a run away success on its own. I more or less believe that their big plan for the hand held was to compliment the PS4 in the same manner that the game pad compliments the Wii U. Only their not making people have to have one to be able to play the other. For what they wanted to do, to force people to buy both would be way to costly, so they amp up and push out the Vita as a stand alone hand held and then allow people to choose whether or not they wish to spend the extra cash to use it. And with more and more implementation of using a Vita as a PS4 peripheral also adds to the lasting strength of the Vita whether it's doing well as a stand alone hand held console or not.
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Someone on a different forum just tried to tell me the PSP didn't fit in your pocket. WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! Too many dudes wearing girls skinny jeans these days.
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Someone on a different forum just tried to tell me the PSP didn't fit in your pocket. WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! Too many dudes wearing girls skinny jeans these days.
I never had one, but borrowed a friends a few times and barely could fit comfortably at all, and I have always worn regular jeans.
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Someone on a different forum just tried to tell me the PSP didn't fit in your pocket. WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! Too many dudes wearing girls skinny jeans these days.
Are you sure it was a dude?

(I wouldn't put one of handhelds in my pockets anyway. Uncomfortable.)
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I never had one, but borrowed a friends a few times and barely could fit comfortably at all, and I have always worn regular jeans.
I'm pretty big but I never once felt like it was too big, just right. I can understand some discomfort for some but it certainly does fit in your pocket.
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The PSP is kinda big... It's not really easy to fit in your pockets.
Vita on the other hand is bigger and its portability is questionable...
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Maybe that's why they changed it to Vita instead of Portable.

I for one always wanted a Vita that was more like the PSP GO. That thing was amazing in the pockets, even with a case. I miss mine.
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Hmm...I never really had any issues of fitting my Vita in any of my pockets.

It slides inside just fine.
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It slides inside just fine.
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I'm pretty big but I never once felt like it was too big, just right. I can understand some discomfort for some but it certainly does fit in your pocket.
i wear slim straight jeans and fitting a psp 1000 and 2000 inside of them is uncomfortable
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Huh?

I wear mainly comfort fit jeans and I can carry mine in a pocket with no trouble.
Same with the PSP models.
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I carry my PSVita and 3DS XL in my pockets too, I guess some people prefer phone size that's all.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with the size of the portable console. I've seen people with the most ridiculous small size of pockets. It baffles me that they think that's normal size.
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I concur with the skinny jeans comment. It will fit in the pocket just fine, unless you are wearing form fitting pants. But if you are doing that, then why are you trying to fit a PSP in your pocket in the first place?
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The Vita fitting in my pocket isn't an issue, I just worry about the analog sticks breaking. Although it is definitely noticeable if not uncomfortable carring it in my pocket while driving. But then again, I don't carry it in my pocket, I have a nice case for it and the only reason it ever leaves the house is if I'm going to a friends house for some multiplayer action.
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I would love for a redesign of both the Vita and 3DS. As I said PSP Go was my favorite "portable" portable system. 3DS XL and Vita both are too big to be enjoyable pocket companions. The original 3DS has the size down, but the screen was too small. If they can do some sort of hybrid of the XL and original 3DS I won't hesitate to fork over more money.

Same goes for the Vita, but I still want to see if the slim vita is any better.
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Sometimes, the PSV has a pixel flicker, or loses its colour of pixels. This doesn't happen with the 3DS.
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The joysticks that are sticking out are not a problem? They seem ... uncomfortable...
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Sometimes, the PSV has a pixel flicker, or loses its colour of pixels. This doesn't happen with the 3DS.
What? I don't have any pixel flicker.
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