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The 2D Mario game for Nintendo 3DS has now been confirmed, via Japanese Nintendo Direct!

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WHY?! Isn't the Wii U Mario also supposed to a New Super Bros game? This is such a waste.
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WHY?! Isn't the Wii U Mario also supposed to a New Super Bros game? This is such a waste.
That was just a Tech Demo.
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That was just a Tech Demo.
Uhhh...nope.
"a new Super Mario Bros. game for the Wii U system will be shown at this year?s E3 Expo. This is based on the Mario experience that was demonstrated at last year?s E3 Expo."
Miyamoto confirms a new Super Mario Bros. game to be shown at E3 2012
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I'm very happy so far. I always thought it was a given they were going to release the game for the holiday season, but August? Means there are other big games that will be released for the 3DS around Christmas. Luigi's Mansion 2 and/or Paper Mario might both be released at that time I'm guessing, kinda like SM3DL and MK7.

Anyway, the game looks very good so far.
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Uhhh...nope.
"a new Super Mario Bros. game for the Wii U system will be shown at this year?s E3 Expo. This is based on the Mario experience that was demonstrated at last year?s E3 Expo."
Miyamoto confirms a new Super Mario Bros. game to be shown at E3 2012
A new Super Mario, not a new New Super Mario Bros.
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A new Super Mario, not a new New Super Mario Bros.
But the game showed off at E3 last year WAS a New Super Mario Bros. game. And they said the game that's actually being announced is going to be pretty much the same thing.
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Nintendo's NSMB2 Facebook post.

What luck! This is likely to be a must-buy for me.
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What's with the Gold World and Gold Mario?

Oh look Tanooki. Looks like PETA will be getting some more publicity soon...
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Confirmed for August Release (NA)!
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Not really interested...sorry, just looks fairly bland and I'm really just tired of NSMB overall now.
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Not really interested...sorry, just looks fairly bland and I'm really just tired of NSMB overall now.
Agreed, i looks like its gonna be rushed
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Didnt buy the first two not buying this.
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I'll need something to play... y'know, alongside Theatrhythm, Kingdom Hearts, Pokemon Black Version 2.

Just kidding, this is the Mario 3DS game I've been waiting for!
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I'm still a little skeptical, but I'm pretty sure I"m going to buy this. Any news on multiplayer?
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I need to get more news, I didn't really like the first one super much, but I got a sudden interest in the Tanooki pic.
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NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2?


Pokemon BW2, Epic Mickey 2, Theatrhythm, Kingdom hearts, Animal Crossing 4, Luigi's mansion 2, Paper Mario 4, Zelda 3DS and now New Super Mario Bros. 2?


TANOOKI SUIT, GOLD SUIT, AND ALL OF MARIO'S FRIENDS?? RELEASING IN AUGUST?





I think I went a tad overboard...
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:31 AM
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First NSMB was lame.
NSMBW was okay, but has absolutely no replay value and was crazy short.

This one looks like more of the same crap. Even the worlds haven't changed.
I pass.
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First NSMB was lame.
NSMBW was okay, but has absolutely no replay value and was crazy short.

This one looks like more of the same crap. Even the worlds haven't changed.
I pass.
Hopefully they come up with something new and unique for this game.
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#unimpressed

It looks too much like NSMB DS. And shouldn't NSMB Wii be NSMB "2"? Or is it NSMB 1.5? @_@
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Exclamation First screenshots of super mario bros 2 3ds

That?s crazy we have first screens from super Mario bros 3ds. It is a classic 2d platformer:-)

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#unimpressed

It looks too much like NSMB DS. And shouldn't NSMB Wii be NSMB "2"? Or is it NSMB 1.5? @_@
Yeah it looks generic, but what did you expect?

It would be cool if the game had different art styles in different levels/worlds including retro, paint and paper.
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I definitely was not expecting Nintendo to release a new NSMB game so soon. Disney might want to consider pricing their Epic Mickey Power of Illusion sidescroller at $30 (or less) if they want their game to sell, as I feel this game is going to steal a lot of Epic Mickey's thunder.
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I definitely was not expecting Nintendo to release a new NSMB game so soon. Disney might want to consider pricing their Epic Mickey Power of Illusion sidescroller at $30 (or less) if they want their game to sell, as I feel this game is going to steal a lot of Epic Mickey's thunder.
How does this make sense, exactly? It's not like they're coming out on the same day.


... Are they?
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While I'm sure the game will end up being good and will seem more appealing as we get more info about it, I do have a few, uh, questions...

WHY SO MAUCH MARIO?! Seriously! This comes out in August? That's just three months after Mario Tennis Open comes out, and not even a year after SM3DL and MK7 hit stores. We know that Mario titles make you a lot of moolah, Ninty, but there's no reason to keep churning them out once every five minutes to keep your system afloat.

Second: Why the Tanooki/Raccon suit again? Hasn't it already been done in SM3DL and MK7? Would it hurt to perhaps pick out another old power-up? I hope this isn't aspect isn't shoved down our throats to try to repeat the success of 3D Land, but rather just something extra.

Nevertheless, I'll probably still buy it, ain't gonna deny it. It could have some cool connectivity with the Wii U Mario game. Plus, how PETA reacts to the return of Tanooki shall be quite humorous; it's as if Nintendo's just trollin' 'em now.

E3 shall be fun indeed.
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Look at this...
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Hopefully there's a level creator in New Super Mario bros 2. And you can share custom levels to and from friends and the whole online community.
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Eh. Wasn't a fan of the DS original. I'll wait for some more info/footage, but I would still more likely skip this one out.
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It. looks. exactly. like. the DS one.
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Look at this...
This doesn't even relate to the argument.
Nobody said it sucks and that x and y are better.
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A waste of what?
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I just wish that they would at least for once try something really new and different for a Mario game. Like ti will sell no matter what because it's Mario, so why not just go for something. I don't mean like "hurr, Mario zombies",but like a new type of platformer or something unique. Not even every game, but just even maybe gimmick like fludd or something, but in a 2d game.
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But it is 3d:-)))))
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I just wish that they would at least for once try something really new and different for a Mario game. Like ti will sell no matter what because it's Mario, so why not just go for something. I don't mean like "hurr, Mario zombies",but like a new type of platformer or something unique. Not even every game, but just even maybe gimmick like fludd or something, but in a 2d game.
I think you are forgetting about a *certain* game that tried to do something "unique." There is a reason these things are called franchises. Change them too much and you alienate your fanbase.
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I think you are forgetting about a *certain* game that tried to do something "unique." There is a reason these things are called franchises. Change them too much and you alienate your fanbase.
Yea, but I don't mean just adding in dialogue or new visual style. Sunshine was generally accepted and not too far off the path from the main games, yet still a new thing unlike these NSMB games.
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I really liked the first one, so I'll probably get this one too. Hopefully it's better than NSMB Wii, though.
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I want something like the Super Mario 63 fangame. That game was rad. I also loved how the water jetpack from Sunshine was used in a 2D style game.
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you have 2d games that look like this and this

please make a 2d mario game that has half-decent visuals

i mean, i'm sure the game will be fine if you don't make it a snooze-fest like nsmb ds and have level design like nsmbw

but it's... so... ugly
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nintendo

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you have 2d games that look like this and this

please make a 2d mario game that has half-decent visuals

i mean, i'm sure the game will be fine if you don't make it a snooze-fest like nsmb ds and have level design like nsmbw

but it's... so... ugly
Yea, I agree completely, and both of those look really good at least while still keeping similar style to the originals.
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Knowing what I'm like, I'll likely end up buying this even though I'm bored of the whole NSMB thing.

Also, judging by the screen shots, it doesn't look like it's that much different from NSMBWii. I just wish they'd make a 2D Mario game that doesn't visually look the same.
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Yea, but I don't mean just adding in dialogue or new visual style. Sunshine was generally accepted and not too far off the path from the main games, yet still a new thing unlike these NSMB games.
SMS is, in my opinion, the worst of the mainline Mario games. What kinds of new things would you like to see?
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Not gonna lie, this looks bad. I swear ive seen this in the one for wii. It looks lazy as hell, when is nintendo just gonna hand over all 2d games to retro who actually know how do get sh@! done? Probably not going to buy it., sm3dl was awful as well so it looks lime mario, as series i used to love, is now just a pile o sh@#. Sorry for the rant.
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SMS is, in my opinion, the worst of the mainline Mario games. What kinds of new things would you like to see?
Sunshine wasn't generally accepted as yuoke seems to think. I'm sure it received mediocre feedback. It was the worst 3D mario platformer, IMO.
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Sheesh... This is a sequel of NEW Super Mario Bros.

What could you HAVE expect them to be?

A co-op online Multiplayer?
Really?
When did main Mario Bros. game ever have online multiplayer since when...?
Oh right! There is none!
Let's just expect something like that on WII U.
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Ohhhh they brought back the running meter thing from Mario3?? !!!

and why is this not called New Super Mario Bros 3??

NSMB1 = DS
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SMS is, in my opinion, the worst of the mainline Mario games. What kinds of new things would you like to see?
Something other than just Mario and Luigi running around in generic Mushroom kingdom stereotype worlds like snow and lava with typical enemies/bosses. It gets old fast, especially when it all looks aesthetically the same.
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Ohhhh they brought back the running meter thing from Mario3?? !!!

and why is this not called New Super Mario Bros 3??

NSMB1 = DS
NSMB2 = Wii
Because NSMB Wii didn't have a number next to it. I see it as being like Resident Evil. Revelations and Code Veronica aren't numbered, but were definitely sequels.
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Because NSMB Wii didn't have a number next to it. I see it as being like Resident Evil. Revelations and Code Veronica aren't numbered, but were definitely sequels.
MKDS and Wii didnt have any numbers either yet they named the 3DS one MK7 :P
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Eh, I'm not very interested. The Tanooki tail craze is getting old and I've never really been a fan of NSMB games anyway.
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MKDS and Wii didnt have any numbers either yet they named the 3DS one MK7 :P
True, but the developers decide what games they want to number. :P
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MKDS and Wii didnt have any numbers either yet they named the 3DS one MK7 :P
MKDS and Wii were counted as MK5 and 6. NSMBW is being skipped over.
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NSMB DS = 1
NSMB 3DS = 2
NSMB WII = 3
NSMB MII = 4

that timeline is a mess!! how are they gonna explain that this time??
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@gaymer Lol, true.

What if those golden enemies were invincible and the only way to beat the level was to not touch them? 0_0
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that timeline is a mess!! how are they gonna explain that this time??
The NSMB universe splits into alternate timelines based on which character died the most: one leads to NSMB 2 and the other leads to NSMB Wii and Mii. The entire universe is actually a split timeline of the main games caused by the clock tower in SM3DL. Isn't it obvious?
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awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
i love SM3DLand but nothing like a classic SMB 2D.
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yeah that's true it looks like the DS one ...but we'll see the overall feelings while playing. The 3D could be cool and I'm actually very excited for this game.
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I just wish that they would at least for once try something really new and different for a Mario game. Like ti will sell no matter what because it's Mario, so why not just go for something. I don't mean like "hurr, Mario zombies",but like a new type of platformer or something unique. Not even every game, but just even maybe gimmick like fludd or something, but in a 2d game.
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Yea, but I don't mean just adding in dialogue or new visual style. Sunshine was generally accepted and not too far off the path from the main games, yet still a new thing unlike these NSMB games.
If you look at sales figures, your kind of answering your own question, Nintendo tried something new with sunshine, and it sold abysmally for a Mario game. The NSMB games have sold ridiculous amounts, even compared to what must be bigger budget games like the galaxy's. I would personally prefer something new, but i'm not going to start questioning the wisdom of making a follow up to a game which sold bucketloads, I just hope they stick to the one NSMB title per platform and don't over do it.
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If you look at sales figures, your kind of answering your own question, Nintendo tried something new with sunshine, and it sold abysmally for a Mario game. The NSMB games have sold ridiculous amounts, even compared to what must be bigger budget games like the galaxy's. I would personally prefer something new, but i'm not going to start questioning the wisdom of making a follow up to a game which sold bucketloads, I just hope they stick to the one NSMB title per platform and don't over do it.
True. Sunshine and Wind Waker, while both are great imo, turned off a lot of fans. Sunshine because it was too different and Wind Waker because of the art style.

I think the GameCube would've done a heck lot better had they released things like a 2D Mario, a similar to 64 3D Mario game, Twilight Princess instead of Wind Waker, etc.

but I dont really care honestly, as I loved both Sunshine and Wind Waker, and the GC was not the failure some make it out to be. Im sure they still made quite a profit from it even with the 22 mil WW install base.
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True. Sunshine and Wind Waker, while both are great imo, turned off a lot of fans. Sunshine because it was too different and Wind Waker because of the art style.

I think the GameCube would've done a heck lot better had they released things like a 2D Mario, a similar to 64 3D Mario game, Twilight Princess instead of Wind Waker, etc.

but I dont really care honestly, as I loved both Sunshine and Wind Waker, and the GC was not the failure some make it out to be. Im sure they still made quite a profit from it even with the 22 mil WW install base.
I pretty much agree, although not necessarily with the wind waker part, or they wouldn't have made almost every game since use that same art style. I just wish they would at least change things up in this "New" series a little more than just adding a powerup or two every game.
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2D Mario is the best thing ever so I'm looking forward to this! I don't get all the hate because of a freaking artstyle. Seriously, it fits the series. Try coming up with something better yourself.

That said tho, let's hope the Wii U one will be way different..
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The NSMB games are some of my favorites. I'm really looking forward to this and NSMBM.
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I am so disappointed. So very disappointed. It barely looks any better then NSMB on DS. How lazy can Nintendo get? Looks like Nintendo will be having a third Call of Duty-esque sequel in this game.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm 100% positive that this game will be a blast to play, because it's Mario, I just...ugh.
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It doesnt look like they put much effort into making it.
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Mario is milked to death, nuff said.
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Mario should just retire for a year or two.

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August release confirmed for Europe as well ^_^
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This saddens me, I want a full fledged 3D Mario game, Like 64-Sunshine. Im not at all excited for a new 2D Mario.


Its funny, a 2D Mario I do NOT want, yet I long for a new 2D Zelda and Metroid.
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I like it so far. Looks like fun. After seeing Hank Green play the Wii one been wanting to play a new SMB game
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But it is 3d:-)))))
So it has a completely pointless gimmick. Your point?
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I know we've only seen 4 screenshots of this game, but what I don't like is the fact that the levels shown are the same levels present in the past 2 games. It gives me the impression that we'll be getting the same level themes, but with slightly different platforming.

I mean, think about Super Mario World and its change from Super Mario Bros. 3. I'm just not impressed so far. Maybe I'll come around when more stuff is shown. But, of course, online co-op would be an auto buy from me.
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Looks like the tanooki suit is actually good in this game
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Wait a minute...



Is it me, or are those coins bigger than usual? Hmmm...
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Is it me, or are those coins bigger than usual? Hmmm...
I think it's just you.
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the things this game needs is online co op, online leader boards for speed runs, and being able to race ghosts. Kinda like in mariokart.
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the things this game needs is online co op, online leader boards for speed runs, and being able to race ghosts. Kinda like in mariokart.
Most of that seems a bit excessive. I'd like online co-op, but I severely doubt they'll do it or anything to separate this title from any of the other NSMB.

I'm hoping from single cart multiplayer as well.
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It's legit trust me.
If that game was real, the fact Wario is there would make it more interesting to play... but still, I'd rather play this if it was real.

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Yeah, this was the final thing that turned my opinion upside down. Mario IS milked to death, even though I didn't think so at first. I thought we were getting something completely original and new, but no.

Nintendo, I am pretty disappoint.

We need more news though, maybe there will be some new gimmick and new power-ups.
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true, at least SM3D land set itself apart from other mario titles. Either way though, this game (remember best selling 3ds game?) will make 3ds sales skyrocket.

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Birdo should be playable since she was shunned in MK7.
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waluigi being left out is a much bigger deal
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Birdo is a main series Mario character. Waluigi was created out of no where just so Wario could have a partner in Mario Tennis.

Birdo >> Waluigi
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Anyway, I personally think NSMB 2 will be awesome. I can't wait to see the gameplay at E3. I will probably be picking NSMB 2 up day 1 in August!
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Birdo is a main series Mario character. Waluigi was created out of no where just so Wario could have a partner in Mario Tennis.

Birdo >> Waluigi
Birdo wouldn't be playable anyway, she's only ever been a miniboss.
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From the looks of this screenshot:


it looks like there is going to multiple planes for platforming. I think switching between the foreground and background ala Mutant Mudds would be an interesting twist, especially if there is multiplayer support. I fully expect this game to have several gimmicks that take advantage of the 3D, so hopefully we get to see some of them at E3.
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I don't really like today's 2D Mario games. The awkward, short jumps are bearable in 3D Mario games (I am really enjoying 3D Land) but are horrible in the 2D games. This game isn't going to do it for me, unless the jumping style is going to feel more Rayman- or Super Meat Boy (SMB- coincidence?)-like.
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Wii:



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The 3DS version clearly has a better font and better clouds than the Wii version. Plus I think it's gonna be pretty cool to see how all the background looks in 3D.

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it will be interesting to see how the 3d works
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The 3DS version clearly has a better font and better clouds than the Wii version. Plus I think it's gonna be pretty cool to see how all the background looks in 3D.

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I still don't get why if they're going to redo the tilesets every game they keep them thematically almost identical. It's silly.
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NSMB 2006
NSMBW 2009
NSMB2 2012

I hope the Wii U version is fresh and new.
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Stop making mario for a while and use your talented dev team to make one of your other franchises that youve abandoned good again.
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I can feel the beat :P
Tanooki hopefully 10 worlds :P
I bet it's not gonna be that hard, the fact that it's portable will make it much easier to travel. And the fact the 3DS screen is not big enough for a big challenge.
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NSMB 2006
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Kinda weird how Peach's castle is in a different location in every Mario game.
Peach uses her Toads to move her castle (that takes years till a sequel) to another side of the Mario world continent, so that Bowser won't find her. Unfortunately Bowser has watched every move and has come risen because his bones don't burn him and has been alive because of a 1-up. At least some enemy from the Mario universe has resurrected him in some way. The fact that Mario doesn't realize this trend makes him wonder why Bowser keeps coming back for more Peach. Unless he realizes it. He will continue to fight Bowser forever and ever.
That's where soon in a sequel, Mario's Time Machine 2, comes in to stop Bowser permanently.
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I`m skeptical, but the inclusion of Tanooki Mario interests me... Maybe this'll actually do the Leaf some justice besides having it make the game uber-easy.
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Am I missing something, I thought NSMB2 was a 3DS game.
The boxart is fake...
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I still don't get why if they're going to redo the tilesets every game they keep them thematically almost identical. It's silly.
Thematically, it's basically Super Mario World in 2.5D with more detail:



Every 2D Mario games since SMW has this same overall aesthetic to it. (Not including the Yoshi's Island spinoffs.)

What kind of changes to the theme are you looking for?
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I just wish it wasn't named New Super Mario Bros 2. They could have at least come up with a better name and dropped the New Super Mario Bros. It's just starting to get old for me. Go back to more original names, or Super Mario Bros 4 would even be nice. Although, I guess that should be on a home console.
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I just wish it wasn't named New Super Mario Bros 2. They could have at least come up with a better name and dropped the New Super Mario Bros. It's just starting to get old for me. Go back to more original names, or Super Mario Bros 4 would even be nice. Although, I guess that should be on a home console.
You think NSMB games are too old and want to go back to the SMB games? When did NSMB get older than SMB?
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You think NSMB games are too old and want to go back to the SMB games? When did NSMB get older than SMB?
"New Super Mario Bros. 2" Sounds like a rehash to me. Super Mario 3 was an amazing platformer that many consider innovative. If they brought the series back to that, somehow, then I would be pleased. And, if they did that, an appropriate title would be Super Mario Bros. 4.

Basically, when I say NSMB is getting old, I mean I'm tired of seeing the "New" in the front, and going back to original naming would at least give me some hope for the game.
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"New Super Mario Bros. 2" Sounds like a rehash to me.
It's a rehash title for a rehash game. What did you expect?
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You think NSMB games are too old and want to go back to the SMB games? When did NSMB get older than SMB?
Because it looks all rehashed....and likely is besides adding in the tanooki suit, with snow/lava/swamp/etc. levels and koopas/goombas/cheepcheeps/etc for enemies. Basically everything the same as the last two NSMB games and the same name, but with a few extra things.
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I'm still looking forward to it, though.
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It's a rehash title for a rehash game. What did you expect?
I was expecting something more than a rehash game
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Because it looks all rehashed....and likely is besides adding in the tanooki suit, with snow/lava/swamp/etc. levels and koopas/goombas/cheepcheeps/etc for enemies. Basically everything the same as the last two NSMB games and the same name, but with a few extra things.
How can you tell the entire game is rehashed from 4 screenshots based on levels that have been in every 2D Mario game since the SNES? The themes may be resused, but we don't have any idea what the gameplay mechanics are gonna be like or new ideas they have may come up with, that they didn't show in these screenshots. We can already assume that Mario is going to be able to fly in this one, and I'm fully expecting Nintendo to take advantage of the 3D effects of the system. Those in themselves could make for gameplay pretty distinct from the other NSMB games.

NSMB and NSMBW may have looked similar aesthetically, but they were pretty distinct in their level designs and had quite a few differences in some core gameplay mechanics. As of now, I'm expecting NSMB2 to be similarly distinct.
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Every 2D Mario games since SMW has this same overall aesthetic to it. (Not including the Yoshi's Island spinoffs.)

What kind of changes to the theme are you looking for?
Something other than that. Maybe a galaxy themed world with added off-set gravity or a world featuring Mario shrunken down to an ant size running through a house.

At least something that looks like a change in scenery.
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Something other than that. Maybe a galaxy themed world with added off-set gravity or a world featuring Mario shrunken down to an ant size running through a house.

At least something that looks like a change in scenery.
I see what you are saying. We may see some other variety in theme later on at E3, but I don't think playing with a space backdrop would be more/less fun than playing with the backgrounds set in the Mushroom Kingdom or a swamp or whatever.

The deciding factor for me is going to be the level design and core gameplay mechanics. I'm hoping they manage to make those two aspects distinct from the other NSMB games (and I think they will.)

If the game was literally NSMB in 3D with better graphics, then yea, I would think it is straight rehash. But as of now, I am expecting Nintendo to do something that makes it feel and play different from the other NSMB games. Think of OoT -> MM. Similar style and assets, but very distinct games.
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Rent, I've had the same idea with a space level today. That would be something fresh for this installment. I don't want another rehash like Sonic 4, extremely similar overused zones, same boss battles, ETC. Do not want.
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I don't get all the whining with the NSMB Series, you can only do so much with the 2D side scroller genre, and any genre for that matter
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I hope it's better than NSMB DS. I was rather disappointed in that one, it just wasn't all that interesting.
In fact, when I first saw this I mistook it for NSMB, they both look very similar.
I don't know what it is, the level design just looks...(as much as I hate to say it) bland.
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The 3DS version clearly has a better font and better clouds than the Wii version. Plus I think it's gonna be pretty cool to see how all the background looks in 3D.

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Yeah, there does seem to be a bit more detail in the background, I'll give it that. It should look good in 3D, but unless the game incorporates a 'send to background' thing the 3D won't breathe as much life into or draw you into the game as much as OoT3D's and KI:'s 3D.
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Well, I haven't played NSMB DS/Wii so I don't know how they were, and hopefully the environments will be good, but as far as August releases go, I is hyped for this one and those screenshots look good.
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I wonder how long the development stage has been for this.

I remember the original DS New Super Mario Bros. was revealed along with the DS at E3 2004.
And that didn't come out until mid-2006.
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I wonder how long the development stage has been for this.

I remember the original DS New Super Mario Bros. was revealed along with the DS at E3 2004.
And that didn't come out until mid-2006.
It just really sucks that yet two more random mario games came out of nowhere, both having official release dates before even knowing exactly when Animal Crossing or Paper Mario will be out.
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I wonder how long the development stage has been for this.

I remember the original DS New Super Mario Bros. was revealed along with the DS at E3 2004.
And that didn't come out until mid-2006.
Considering that there is a NSMB-dedicated team at Nintendo, I'd say this has been in the works for at least a year or two, since their last game released in 2009 (NSMBW). Just my speculation though.
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Kind of looks like Super Mario Bros 3.
I loved SMB3.
They're bringing back the P-meter... P-power or whatever it was called?
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It just really sucks that yet two more random mario games came out of nowhere, both having official release dates before even knowing exactly when Animal Crossing or Paper Mario will be out.
I rather have Paper Mario come first than this one.
Paper Mario is pretty much the only upcoming 3DS Mario title I am at least highly interested in.
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Definitely getting this.. I've never played any of the "New" Mario games before. Maybe not on release day, but eventually.
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It looks all right but it's definitely not on my "high priority" list.
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GAAAAH! Inconsistent naming hurts my head so much! >_<

Not to mention, I THOUGHT I was excited for this... But then it turns out I wasn't. The only thing that really itrigued me was that they actually used Raccoon Mario instead of Tanooki Mario. It seems they paid attention to the people who kept whining that the Tanooki Suit was basically NOT the Tanooki Suit, but rather Raccoon Mario, so why even bother making it the Tanooki Suit...

People like me.

But yeah, nice to see that consistency fixed... But really, that's it, there's NOTHING to be excited about with this game. There's already been 2 Mario sidescrollers before, and they're great. Even if the Koopalings were in this one, I doubt it would get me any more anxious with anticipation... Maybe a little, but the thing is, it's the Mega Man 10 problem; Nintendo seems to be taking the easier (I'm hesitant on saying "lazier" because making games is hard work) route with this. Basically same idea, same gameplay, little to no difference in story, just throw in some new power-ups and that's it...

I'm sure the game will be good, and I'll still buy it, but I'm a little disappointed, honestly. I was really hoping for a Super Mario Bros. 2-sytle game, THAT would have been a nice change!
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Not a bad video. I definitely like the idea of being able to jump between the foreground and the background. It would make this particular entry in the NSMB series way more interesting.
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Not a bad video. I definitely like the idea of being able to jump between the foreground and the background. It would make this particular entry in the NSMB series way more interesting.
Yeah I agree with that but don't forget that we will have 3D effect on them.
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"Almost everything is the same".

Ironically, even though he's talking about that one screenshot, that seems to almost sum up my thoughts on the game... But you know, not much info is out yet, so maybe they'll surprise us.

Also, he called the Tanooki Suit the "raccoon suit from Super Mario 3D Land", but he IS right, in that it doesn't count.

I also totally did NOT notice the whole "foreground, background" thing with the fourth screenshot, nice catch.
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The game could change alot like Super Mario 3D Land:

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The game could change alot like Super Mario 3D Land:

how did it change?
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how did it change?
It used to be more like the Galaxy games.
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Too bad the final product wasnt like it. I really hate 3D Land.
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It used to be more like the Galaxy games.
I don't remember the beta being like galaxy.
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Good heavens? Why do we need more side scroller Mario games? We already have the original, ds version, wii version, and the 3D version! Honestly, I'm getting tired of 'em. They need to make a Super Mario sunshine 2
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Oh look, another 2d platformer with (presumably, based on precedent) about 8 hours of content that would've looked good on the last generation of Nintendo handhelds. And they're selling it for 40 friggin' dollars, which is what gorram Skyrim sells for during the average Steam sale. And then everyone'll buy it, and all the 3rd party developers for the 3DS will be watching, and they'll know: they shouldn't make beautiful, impressive, boundary-pushing games. They should make games that would have been old hat (and looked decent) a decade ago. Because such games sell for more.

And then that's all we'll get for the 3DS. And it'll be our fault.
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I was hoping that this next "2D mario game" was an actual 2D mario game, and not another damn nsmb game.
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Good heavens? Why do we need more side scroller Mario games? We already have the original, ds version, wii version, and the 3D version! Honestly, I'm getting tired of 'em. They need to make a Super Mario sunshine 2
Yes, they need to make a new Sunshine. I've had enough of 64, Galaxy, and New Super Mario Bros.


Also, I really hope there is some kind of level maker in the game, that is the ONLY thing I want, oh yes, and something unique.


If the game is like that, I might as well just get my copy of New Super Mario Bros. right now and play it.
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Good thinking, Mariosunsinerules22! I wonder why you said that?......
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I'm hoping Nintendo does something to surprise us and get us excited for this game. Let's see something we've never seen in a Mario sidescroller. Maybe do the Skylanders thing with lots of characters that can be unlocked by playing the game (no toys plz), I'd like to play as many different characters that are all able to get to the end of each level but each have different feels, attributes and interactions with the environment and its power ups.

Maybe actually have a set up that isn't 'Go get the Princess', give us some other goal or motivation.
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Really doubt I'll get this one. Liked the DS one when it came out, then the Wii version was amazing with 4p co-op. If this is just single player like the DS version I won't get it...
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It should be bowser's view trying to get the princess. That would be a nice twist.
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But we're not going to play as Bowser, obviously.
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I hope Nintendo is planning on surprising us by showing us generic screen shots and showing off a major twist in the game at E3. Since this is NSMB 2 I hope some elements in the game are influenced by SMB2. Like the enemies/worlds/power ups. I always wanted to see Wart return. (and let's not forget the seductive Godess herself, Birdo)

If it's a copy/pasta of NSMB1 (which it most likely is, except with some "gold" gimmick) I'll be disappointed especially considering that another NSMB is coming out this year for the U (apparently) . And to everyone saying "0MG y no 3D like sunshine?!!" the sad reality is that NSMB Mario games sell much much more than 3D ones.
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Remember when Nintendo stated they would push their games on retail and eShop?

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Part of me kind of understands why this game is being made the way it is, and it leads back to a certain quote Shigeru Miyamoto made a year or so back:

"Video games aren't art; they're products."

Basically, Nintendo is given their costumers what they want... The vast majority, that is, and while it's sure to be at least decent, it's not really going to leave much of an impact, either in the industry, Nintendo, or even the Mario series.

Like I said, it's tempting to call them lazy here, but at least it's not nearly as bad as the **** EA pulls.
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Part of me kind of understands why this game is being made the way it is, and it leads back to a certain quote Shigeru Miyamoto made a year or so back:

"Video games aren't art; they're products."

Basically, Nintendo is given their costumers what they want... The vast majority, that is, and while it's sure to be at least decent, it's not really going to leave much of an impact, either in the industry, Nintendo, or even the Mario series.

Like I said, it's tempting to call them lazy here, but at least it's not nearly as bad as the **** EA pulls.
Another reason why I hope at least Sakurai becomes the future of what Shiggy currently is in Nintendo. With him, we will get more games that push the limit like KI:U, instead of generic and bland sequels to already bland games.
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This looks interesting Gold Mario looks cool I hope they put worlds in order unlike NSB1 for the DS >_>
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Another reason why I hope at least Sakurai becomes the future of what Shiggy currently is in Nintendo. With him, we will get more games that push the limit like KI:U, instead of generic and bland sequels to already bland games.
Oh my, yes, they could have easily just rehashed the same plot and characters from the original Kid Icarus, but instead they did a lot of world-building, introduced new characters, and had and... interesting gameplay style to boot!
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Oh my, yes, they could have easily just rehashed the same plot and characters from the original Kid Icarus, but instead they did a lot of world-building, introduced new characters, and had and... interesting gameplay style to boot!
Yea, and that's also what the Prime games for Metroid, yet they got ignored and halfway booted from the series by Sakamoto who also loves to live in the past glories of Super metroid and made a game just for that. I just wish we could see way more innovative games and ideas with these series that have so much more potential than what they are giving.
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The only way I will buy this game, is if they sell it for reduced price on the e-shop. Prime was great yuoke.
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Yea, and that's also what the Prime games for Metroid, yet they got ignored and halfway booted from the series by Sakamoto who also loves to live in the past glories of Super metroid and made a game just for that. I just wish we could see way more innovative games and ideas with these series that have so much more potential than what they are giving.
Honestly, I think Other M's only shortcoming was it's story and how badly it delivered it. Nothing was wrong gameplay-wise, although I suppose it could have been a little less linear. My bias against first-person shooters might also of had effected my feelings about Other M.
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Honestly, I think Other M's only shortcoming was it's story and how badly it delivered it. Nothing was wrong gameplay-wise, although I suppose it could have been a little less linear. My bias against first-person shooters might also of had effected my feelings about Other M.
Yea, the gameplay in terms of mechanics was polished, although I don't like having to go into first person to shoot missiles without being able to move. The linearity was the deal breaker for me though, with locking doors and single view areas half thew time. I'm not a huge fan of a ton of fps's either, but it was a true FPA, and actually felt like Super Metroid in 3d.
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Another reason why I hope at least Sakurai becomes the future of what Shiggy currently is in Nintendo. With him, we will get more games that push the limit like KI:U, instead of generic and bland sequels to already bland games.
That would be great, in an ideal world situation, the kind where games of the likes of KI:U, Gravity Daze or even the 3D Mario's sell more copies than them bland sequals.

With the current economic situation and the way the games industry is at the moment, without those big selling titles, you wouldn't get the bigger budget, system pushing ones, that don't sell as well.

Having played both the previous NSMB's and buying neither, I have no intention of buying this one either, however I have no problem with it being made, for the millions that will buy and enjoy it, knowing that the money it generates will keep the games like KI and the next proper Mario on WiiU coming.

You've only got to look at the start of the 3DS's life and the way the Vita is right now to see that without the big selling, system selling games, everything else suffers. Let's face it, Sony could do with it's own NSMB right now.
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Wwwwwhhhooooaaaa!!! Slow down there, Nintendo!

First, folders and now retail games on the eshop? This is too much to take in at one time....
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Yeah good luck putting a game on a 3,5GB system. The game is at least 512MB/1GB I suppose, which leaves a very small amount of room for other games.

Also, anyone else think they should add online multiplayer? It would be DA BOMB. Because NSMBWii multiplayer was DA BOMB too, online would make it even better.

I adored both NSMB's. I just love them, so I will love this one too. And Wii U's one.
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Wwwwwhhhooooaaaa!!! Slow down there, Nintendo!

First, folders and now retail games on the eshop? This is too much to take in at one time....
Kids these days...

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Little big planet, maybe.
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Really I don't understand where all the hate comes from -__- We've seen 4 freakin' screenshots and people are like "IT'S THE SAME DAMN **** ALL OVER AGAIN", well, the style is thet same. It's like SS when people said "this game is gonna sux0rz i dont like da artstyle".

2D Mario is the pure definition of fun. Almost nothing brings more fun than that, and that's what it's about: fun. This kind of fun is really worth the full 40 euros price because the joy from playing a 2D Mario is so huge.

Both NSMB's were awesome (both beat SMB1/2 for me, by far) and I really can't think of a style that suits 2D Mario better.

Haters gonna hate, I'm gonna wait and get hyped for a game I'll enjoy.
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Really I don't understand where all the hate comes from -__- We've seen 4 freakin' screenshots and people are like "IT'S THE SAME DAMN **** ALL OVER AGAIN", well, the style is thet same. It's like SS when people said "this game is gonna sux0rz i dont like da artstyle".

2D Mario is the pure definition of fun. Almost nothing brings more fun than that, and that's what it's about: fun. This kind of fun is really worth the full 40 euros price because the joy from playing a 2D Mario is so huge.

Both NSMB's were awesome (both beat SMB1/2 for me, by far) and I really can't think of a style that suits 2D Mario better.

Haters gonna hate, I'm gonna wait and get hyped for a game I'll enjoy.
Yea, but it's just that we just had a Maio platformer a few months ago.
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Yea, the gameplay in terms of mechanics was polished, although I don't like having to go into first person to shoot missiles without being able to move. The linearity was the deal breaker for me though, with locking doors and single view areas half thew time. I'm not a huge fan of a ton of fps's either, but it was a true FPA, and actually felt like Super Metroid in 3d.
Yes, that, switching into first person to fire missiles was a pain in the ass, and it's something I always dreaded in game whenever I had to use them.

It's been a while since I last tried Metroid Prime, so maybe I should go back and play it, to see if it really is as good as everyone keeps telling me.
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If this game has online and level-creator it will suceed, if not,
it better has good gameplay and level design.
Also, how can anyone say it's the same as the ds version?
We've only seen 4 screenshots. You can't judge a game on 4 friggin screenshots!
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If this game has online and level-creator it will suceed,
I think this game is going to be a success anyway, since it's a Mario game and Mario games ALWAYS sell well.
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First, folders and now retail games on the eshop? This is too much to take in at one time....
If they made a YouTube app or flash player, everybody would stop complaining about the Nintendo 3DS.
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If they made a YouTube app or flash player, everybody would stop complaining about the Nintendo 3DS.
Not true, actually.

What about the complaints on the handheld's hardware?
(Screen size, top screen prints, resolution, design, low volume on headphones, etc.)

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If they made a YouTube app or flash player, everybody would stop complaining about the Nintendo 3DS.
You can please some people some of the time, but you can't please all people all of the time.
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You JUST gotta wait for the NSMB2 Trailer before you pass your judgment on the screenshots. Do you remember... What happened to Kid Icarus: Uprising poor screenshots and going to assume that it won't be good game? Now... It's essentially one of the best 3DS game out right now. I hope y'all learn the lesson to not criticize against the game that you BARELY know so well and I do need to learn it too.
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You JUST gotta wait for the NSMB2 Trailer before you pass your judgment on the screenshots. Do you remember... What happened to Kid Icarus: Uprising poor screenshots and going to assume that it won't be good game? Now... It's essentially one of the best 3DS game out right now. I hope y'all learn the lesson to not criticize against the game that you BARELY know so well and I do need to learn it too.
The difference is that KI:U was an out of nowhere complete reboot of KI, while this is just a third sequel of two already fairly bland mario platformers and the screen shots would indicate that the only new things from ds are gold mario and tanooki.
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The difference is that KI:U was an out of nowhere complete reboot of KI, while this is just a third sequel of two already fairly bland mario platformers and the screen shots would indicate that the only new things from ds are gold mario and tanooki.
Maybe there will be one stages in two place. (Front and Background by that 4th screenshot)
Maybe there is still more new things that we don't know yet.
Maybe there is Co-Op Local Play. (I don't care about online for Mario Platformer game though)
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why? why can't I have 3d mario platformer on my 3ds?
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why? why can't I have 3d mario platformer on my 3ds?
We just did, it came out last November.
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sorry I wasn't clear
I mean like 64, sunshine, or galaxy style.
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sorry I wasn't clear
I mean like 64, sunshine, or galaxy style.
Super Mario 3D Land is actually a mixture of 64 and galaxy style...
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Oh no! Not another one! I liked the DS one, but Wii was just boring and more of the same. I'll probably get it, but I will probably feel ripped off.
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I just don't want the same old 2d platformer.
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I don't mind the idea of a "New" Super Mario 2D game, but this doesn't look that good. The graphics are TERRIBLE.
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This game looks really rushed. Im hoping that by august it looks better.
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I hope it's not just more "Classic Mario action." I got enough of that with New Super Mario Bros DS, and Wii, and Super Mario 3D Land (With a "3D Twist" of course). I want something new that shows off the 3DS's graphical capability. I don't see this game doing that. And 3D Land definitely didn't.
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it will be fully downloadable off eshop!
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Ain't no better retail Nintendo game to be downloadable at the same time than a Mario game.
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Finally sees game released on eShop.

Still buys it on cartridge.

Or at least in my case,

1.) SD Cards could stack up after a while if you don't have a huge capacity. Buying the space for the game can get expensive.

2.) You don't get the pretty box.

3.) You can't sell it back if it's a breeze like 3D Land was and you can complete it on your first run in only 9 hours gathering all Star Coins.

If it's cheaper on the eShop by a large amount though I may think otherwise, but I don't see that happening..
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I doubt NSMB2 will be huge in size, so dloading it shouldn't kill an SD card...
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I won't buy the eShop version. I prefer the cartridge version.
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This is nice for people who don't feel like going to the store and would rather buy a digital version, but I like looking at my stack of games. Physical copy for me. Still, though... it's neat that Nintendo is finally going to embrace digital distribution with retail games.
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Why in the world would they release a downloadable version and a cartridge version? They will either do on or the other. If they release both, a lot of people would go for the downloadable one because it's going to be cheaper. Therefore they would lose money.
But I don't think they're going to put it up for download. It's too big. It would probably take up an entire 2GB SD Card. That's the standard that the 3DS comes with, and most people, especially the ones that have to have every Mario game (mostly little kids who don't even know what an SD Card is, and who's parents can't justify spending another $20+ on their children), aren't going to get a bigger SD Card unless they plan on buying everything on the eShop. So I'm sure they're not going to release something that can't be downloaded onto a 2GB SD Card with room to spare.
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Why in the world would they release a downloadable version and a cartridge version? They will either do on or the other. If they release both, a lot of people would go for the downloadable one because it's going to be cheaper. Therefore they would lose money.
But I don't think they're going to put it up for download. It's too big. It would probably take up an entire 2GB SD Card. That's the standard that the 3DS comes with, and most people, especially the ones that have to have every Mario game (mostly little kids who don't even know what an SD Card is, and who's parents can't justify spending another $20+ on their children), aren't going to get a bigger SD Card unless they plan on buying everything on the eShop. So I'm sure they're not going to release something that can't be downloaded onto a 2GB SD Card with room to spare.
So what you're saying is most people would get the download version because it's cheaper, but most people would buy the retail version because with the SD storage(which most people know nothing about), the download version would be more expensive?.
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Why in the world would they release a downloadable version and a cartridge version? They will either do on or the other. If they release both, a lot of people would go for the downloadable one because it's going to be cheaper. Therefore they would lose money.
The Vita is doing this and the digital games are the same price as retail.

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But I don't think they're going to put it up for download. It's too big. It would probably take up an entire 2GB SD Card.
I doubt it. I figure the game will be 1gb at the most. Mario Party 9 for the Wii, for example, is just 1gb. Excite Truck is 0.5gb. Just because it's on a 4.7GB DVD Disc/a 2GB game cartridge, it doesn't mean it's using all the space available.
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I am still not sure if i buy this one. I did like New Super Mario Bros on the Ds. But on the Wii i got bored with it really soon.
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Why in the world would they release a downloadable version and a cartridge version? They will either do on or the other. If they release both, a lot of people would go for the downloadable one because it's going to be cheaper. Therefore they would lose money.
But I don't think they're going to put it up for download. It's too big. It would probably take up an entire 2GB SD Card. That's the standard that the 3DS comes with, and most people, especially the ones that have to have every Mario game (mostly little kids who don't even know what an SD Card is, and who's parents can't justify spending another $20+ on their children), aren't going to get a bigger SD Card unless they plan on buying everything on the eShop. So I'm sure they're not going to release something that can't be downloaded onto a 2GB SD Card with room to spare.
Calm down and think things through for a moment.

1) Yes, some will go for the downloadable option because it may be cheaper, but NINTENDO WILL NOT MAKE LESS MONEY. The discount on the digital version will just take the place of the money it cost for the physical materials. I anything, there's a chance they'll make more money/copy. Especially if they're sold at the exact same price (as Nintendo has suggested they will do for their own titles).

2) THEY ALREADY CONFIRMED THEY WOULD BE PUTTING IT UP FOR DOWNLOAD.

3) Too Big? Do you have any concept of the what simple 2D art translates to in terms of space? Just because it is a 3DS game doesn't mean it's 2GB. SM3DL is only 320MB (still beautiful with great textures. Nintendo is has a history of top notch compression algorithms that create a minimal loss of quality). It is likely NSMB2 will be a good deal smaller.....

4) Though true that many may choose not to upgrade their SD card, DD of retail titles was IS NOT MEANT TO BE THE STANDARD. Retail is still the standard method in the eyes of Nintendo and consumers. They are only just making the option available. The core crowd will likely be the only people to take advantage of this for now. Again, many of Nintendo's titles on the 3DS are small. ALL OF THE RETAIL MARIO GAMES ON 3DS so far would only be 1GB. NSMB2 IS LIKELY TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 300MB AND MARIO TENNIS SHOULD BE A BIT HIGHER (POSSIBLY UP TO 500MB DUE TO LARGE NUMBERS OF ASSETS). Nintendo is planning to release their own branded SD cards so the casual consumer will find it less confusing to upgrade memory if they run out. Adoption of higher capacity memory card in the casual may be relatively low, but it won't be non-existent. Casual consumers are used to buying digitally, and will likely find digital to be a good choice for them when considering convenience. They likely don't find the value of a retail box and physical copy that some of us do.
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I have noticed something going on with the New Super Mario Bros. Series. They use the same landscapes and mostly the same old themes. NSMB had Snow, Desert, and poison swamp. NSMBW had Snow, Desert, Poison swamp. The NSMB that was showcased with the Wii U had a desert. And NSMB2 has a screenshot of the poison swamp.

This isn't New Super Mario Bros. anymore. It's.... OLD Super Mario Bros.
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Deal with it.
There's nothing you can do about it unless you somehow get a job as CEO of Nintendo... If you already are, my apologies
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Hate to say it and disillusion a lot of you, but fans literally have 0 say on what goes on.
Nintendo only listens to money and investors, they are a company after all.
They will do what is best for number 1- themselves. All companies do that.
It's how they make money and until you're in the company or invest in their stock, nobody should be whining about their decisions.
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Personally I kinda trust Nintendo to do something that's going to be different enough from the past two. They're usually good at this kind of things. They've had the same franchises for decades and we didn't have too much to complain about so I'm confident they know they have to bring some form of change to the formula so it doesn't get stale.
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People are looking waaay too much into these FOUR screenshots.
I think we should take a step back and wait for more information before deeming this game craptastic.
I do understand that the concept has been abused now, but we still should wait a moment before criticizing the actual game.
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I agree with Sepharos...I emailed Nintendo, to submit some ideas, And they replied with this; Were sorry, but due to the amount of mail from gamers we get a day, we stopped taking ideas. If you feel strongly about your idea, join a Game studio and make it reality....>I was dissapointed....
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I agree with Sepharos...I emailed Nintendo, to submit some ideas, And they replied with this; Were sorry, but due to the amount of mail from gamers we get a day, we stopped taking ideas. If you feel strongly about your idea, join a Game studio and make it reality....>I was dissapointed....
I think the problem is that every gamer and fan feel their ideas are genius when in reality:
1. They wouldn't make Nintendo any money.
2. A ton of other people have the same idea.
3. They just suck. Sorry, but they do most of the time.
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1. They wouldn't make Nintendo any money.
2. A ton of other people have the same idea.
3. They just suck. Sorry, but they do most of the time.
Now can someone tell Normand 3D this.
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This is a must buy.I Really like mario and i will be getting it
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If i have the money, ill get this, NSMBDS was my 3rd DS game iand i played it waaaay to much lol
otherwise ill get this around christmas .___.
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NSMB2 looks awesome, but I'm wondering if I should get Paper Mario instead. I also hope the game has some distinctive features from the previous NSMB games.
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I luved nsmb wii and am excited for the next 1 for the 3ds, so i dont get inpaitent i just brought the ds version to play
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I'm tempted to get this, loved the DS one... A lot...
But I wish this one was abit different (...even though I've only seen four screenshots xD)
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I'm totally going to digital download this, so I'll never lose it.

...And I'm quite positive that the digital download will have the exact amount of content as the retail game, sans the pretty boxes and physical instruction booklet.
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Haha, people think Nintendo will charge less for a digital version. That makes me smile. As you can tell by how EVERY digital version of ANY game that has appeared on a Nintendo console/handheld, they are almost ALWAYS overpriced.

Nintendo will see digital delivery as a way to make MORE money, not give VALUE to the consumer. If Nintendo doesnt have to spend money on making cartridges, cases, manuals etc... then its MORE revenue, they are not going to offset the price of digital because we arent getting the cartridge, case, and pieces of paper!

Its really just like the price of eBooks, there is NO overhead whatsoever (besides space on a server hdd and webhosting) yet you still have to pay a lot of money to be able to read it... Same case here.

I know it seems really negative, but its the reason Nintendo stays in business. They know their fans will buy just about anything at whatever price Nintendo puts it at. If any are to blame, its the rabid fans
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So it's more anticipated title than Animal Crossing: Jump Out?
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Why get digital? Digital stuff gets corrupted all the time, and then there's nothing you can do about it. I had about 4 games on my Xbox 360 digitally downloaded....Long story short, I lost all my data in them when I did the HardDrive transfer. Stick with CD's and Psychical things. At least you can actually "own" it when you buy it in real life.
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Why get digital? Digital stuff gets corrupted all the time, and then there's nothing you can do about it. I had about 4 games on my Xbox 360 digitally downloaded....Long story short, I lost all my data in them when I did the HardDrive transfer. Stick with CD's and Psychical things. At least you can actually "own" it when you buy it in real life.
Wut? Nintendo is different story. we actually haven't bought any digital 3DS or Wii U games YET.
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Alright, I just came across this image comparing the beginning part of each New Super Mario Bros. game:



I have to admit, some of the more recent Mario games seem kind of lackluster. They're fun, I guess, but there's not really a lot too them. Not that it matters, people were entertained and Nintendo is all about satisfying it's customers, and if they customers just want the same old thing, then they're going to make the same old thing, with little variation.

Then again, it's too soon to tell with New Super Mario Bros. 2, so I'll probably wait until E3 to see what other features this game might have.
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Alright, I just came across this image comparing the beginning part of each New Super Mario Bros. game:

It's like comparing the first levels of Sonic games.
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Well I actually played the first NSMB on my DS like thousands of times, there's always replay value to any Mario game.
So I'm really excited about this.

And those pictures prove nothing, of course the first level will look like that.
And we all know it's a 2D game, so we don't have to expect much more in visual terms.

I only hope it has more than 8 worlds. Or maybe two difficults with challenges, replaying each world like in SM3DL.
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I wonder if they'll be a minigame mode in this one. I liked the one in New Super Mario Bros. In SM3DL, i finished it 100% and never went back, so minigames are good time-killers to come back.
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This game better be packed with plants, bombs, shells, and other odd objects to pluck from the ground and chuck at enemies, otherwise I won't be buying it.


...I probably won't be buying it. >:
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[QUOTE=SmashBro202;747321]Alright, I just came across this image comparing the beginning part of each New Super Mario Bros. game:



This is a great visual comparison of the "New" Super Mario Bros games so far. I hope that it'll be a little more visually appealing though for NSMB2.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:22 PM
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New Super Mario Bros. 2 needs more and more interesting minigames than it's predecessor if it is gonna sell...
I'm not buying this...
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This game better be packed with plants, bombs, shells, and other odd objects to pluck from the ground and chuck at enemies, otherwise I won't be buying it.
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Alagold and Bucken Berry... Those are AWEOSME nicknames!
Old 05-28-2012, 02:17 AM
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Alright, I just came across this image comparing the beginning part of each New Super Mario Bros. game:



This is a great visual comparison of the "New" Super Mario Bros games so far. I hope that it'll be a little more visually appealing though for NSMB2.
The last one is NSMB2
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Yeah I'm going to buy this, but no because I want to. I wish Nintendo would stop being so Activision.
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In those pics, the Wii version looks the best...

They should keep the "new" line on the handheld, and do something NEW on the console. Not that I even WANT a new 2D Mario game on the console anyway.
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Is it wrong for me to hope the wii u mario will be in the style of sunshine/ galaxy? I know its been said that it will be based off of the e3 tech demo, but I just can't get excited for a console sidescroller anymore.
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I'd like a 3D Mario game that ISN'T Super Mario 3D Land. Or Super Mario Galaxy 2.
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Hiu, This is really a nice post and a favor for me. Can any body post a link that i can download this new version of mario directly please?
Say what???!!!
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Hiu, This is really a nice post and a favor for me. Can any body post a link that i can download this new version of mario directly please?
It's not even available yet...

And you would download games directly from the 3DS's eShop..

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I do hope that there are more surprises in this game. Honestly, am I the only who is getting tired of the SMB3 and SMB1 references that have been going strong in the most recent Mario games (I mean SM3DL wasn't enough)? Yes, SMB3 was a great game; however, why not some elements from SMB2/USA and/or SMW (especially the former)? I'd love to see some gameplay differences like actually throwing enemies, using keys to open doors, digging through the ground, and whatnot.

I know that the game is not based off of SMB2; however, I still would really like to see Toad and Peach as playable characters. Peach probably has less of a chance if the game does once again revolve around her kidnapping; however, I still would like to see playable characters with different stats. Mario and Luigi once again just bores me tbh. I was very happy to see Toad (or Toads) playable in NSMB Wii, so I do hope Nintendo decides to expand upon this and bring back the original four (with stat differences) as opposed to staying with the two plumbers. I know I'm probably being too picky; however, I really would like to see some more differences and revivals brought back to the standard Mario formula.
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I do hope that there are more surprises in this game. Honestly, am I the only who is getting tired of the SMB3 and SMB1 references that have been going strong in the most recent Mario games (I mean SM3DL wasn't enough)? Yes, SMB3 was a great game; however, why not some elements from SMB2/USA and/or SMW (especially the former)? I'd love to see some gameplay differences like actually throwing enemies, using keys to open doors, digging through the ground, and whatnot.

I know that the game is not based off of SMB2; however, I still would really like to see Toad and Peach as playable characters. Peach probably has less of a chance if the game does once again revolve around her kidnapping; however, I still would like to see playable characters with different stats. Mario and Luigi once again just bores me tbh. I was very happy to see Toad (or Toads) playable in NSMB Wii, so I do hope Nintendo decides to expand upon this and bring back the original four (with stat differences) as opposed to staying with the two plumbers. I know I'm probably being too picky; however, I really would like to see some more differences and revivals brought back to the standard Mario formula.
Yea I know what you mean. Nostalgic references to SMB and SMB3? They're fine, but getting a little played out. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed. The return of airships, koopa kids, raccoon/tanuki suits, etc. is just not that exciting anymore. Bring back a Super Mario Bros. 2 enemy throwing mechanic and THEN you'll have me excited.
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I'm perfectly fine with the style, references etc. But I hope the Wii U version will bve different.
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New Super Mario Bros 2 looks VERY VERY rushed. I'm not going to get it.
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Ugh. I actually like SMBU for having some cool-looking concepts, but this game just looks plain lazy. NSMB with a Raccoon Leaf and lots of coins? No thanks, unless they can come up with some interesting power-ups and level design.
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Well, NSMBU looks way more awesome than NSMB2. NSMB2s graphics look a bit outdated even for a 3DS and that's why it looks boring. Some parts of the trailer I really liked tho: the part where he used the Raccoon tail to fly up to that big tree: it felt really retro and I'm sure this game will be good. NSMB was one of my favourite handheld experiences, so I hope this will find a way to top it.

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The only thing interesting all is the tanooki suit....but wait, we just had a new mario game 7 months ago with it also except in 3d and actually looks like a 3ds game.
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Box art:



I wonder what the Nintendo Network logo's for... Could the game have online co-op? DLC for future levels down the road?

Trailer, cuz no one posted it yet:



Oh, and apparently, this and New Super Mario Bros. U are being developed by two completely teams, so there'll be no connectivity. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/30541
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I hope this has 2-player mode, just like the one in the original NSMB, except with more levels.
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They will probobly announce how this game will use the Nintendo Network at the Software Showcase today. I'm hoping online co-op.

On a side note, I would of renamed this game NSMB 3. That solves a lot of confusion. This IS the third New Super Mario game afterall, and this games shares more similarites to Super Mario Bros. 3 than Super Mario Bros. 2 with the whole Racoon suit and everything.

I guess they named it NSMB2 because its a direct sequel to the original NSMB for the DS? But wasn't NSMB Wii a direct sequel? I don't even know.

(*cough And NSMB U should have been named NSM World cough*)

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