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That's just a Sawsbuck who ran through a Christmas tree.
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The fact is there are just so many pokemon now, too many to be honest. Its just a case of quality over quantity.. I mean there are only so many ideas that can be turned into pokemon, and to me the ideas are running out. Actually they've been running out since Gold/Silver.. Sapphire/Ruby had a bunch of dumb ones too.
So, you think that Generation III had a bunch of dumb ones, but you refuse to acknowledge the unoriginal crappiness of certain others?



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Gotta love G1 snobbery, eh? We go through this every time... Something new appears, and the series is ruined FOREVER. Good times.
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Gen 1, Gen 6, Gen 29? Don't care. They're all Pokemon and now there are too many to catch.

Not that you could actually catch 'em all as the phrase goes. Trade evolutions and whatnot.
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Looks pretty cool!
Old 01-09-2013, 03:20 PM
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So the legendary's names are Xerneas and Yveltal. I don't know what to think about that.
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Figured they would use X and Y in the names. Looks easy enough to pronounce. I think it goes Zer-nee-as and Vel-tal.

Link, btw: http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us

Edit: K, so apparently the pronunciation of it is ee-vel-tal
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:19 PM
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I am glad that Xerneas is better name than Yveltal.

Go Xerneas!
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:54 PM
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Whoaa Xerneas would be an awesome name. I might pick Pokemon X since there has been to many legendary flying pokemon, we need something with four legs who walk instead.
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The legendary Pokemons' names start with X and Y? BIG SURPRISE THERE.

But uh, they sure are original. I especially like Xerneas.

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Both names are cool imo

Hopefully they show official artwork of the player characters soon
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I'm hoping we can get both in the same game.
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Both names are cool imo

Hopefully they show official artwork of the player characters soon
Both are cool indeed. I kinda like the name Yveltal better though (sounds like evil-tal, which sounds...evil). Froakie is WAY cooler! One frog to rule them all!
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cool I love the names for the legends awesome but I cant wait to see the evolutions of the starter pokemon
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I wish the fire starter was a lion, but I do like this one however
Old 01-09-2013, 09:14 PM
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I wish the fire starter was a lion, but I do like this one however
Theres always the possibility this firefox can turn into a lion :3
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Theres always the possibility this firefox can turn into a lion :3
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I've already decided I'm getting X, I like the colour scheme better and the legendary looks amazing too :P *pretty much how I've decided which version to get every time ^^!!!*
tbh I'm still kinda amazed they're releasing a new game so soon after B2/W2 o:
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I've already decided I'm getting X, I like the colour scheme better and the legendary looks amazing too :P *pretty much how I've decided which version to get every time ^^!!!*
tbh I'm still kinda amazed they're releasing a new game so soon after B2/W2 o:
black and white 2 was jus a ploy XD
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Theres always the possibility this firefox can turn into a lion :3
Or a massive fire-breathing wrestler fox. :3 I kid, I kid
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Things that i want to see:

1.More Polish on the graphics.
2. Pokemon follow you.
3. Customizable character.
I'd like PokeSeals to make a comeback.
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What all are you looking forward to being in the upcoming generation of Pokemon games?

I, for one, am hoping Game Freak gives Corsola a much needed evolution.
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I'm looking forward to seeing the next legendary trio
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Hopefully alot of what B2W2 did, but in 3D. I want a lot of references to Unova, much like GSC had lots of references to RBY.

A badass evil team like Team Plasma or Team Galactic (not a stupid one like Magma or Aqua)

An better story (BW and B2W2 were steps in the right direction, but just a little more would make the experience great)

Overall, I'm just glad we got through Gen V without remakes of Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald
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Froakie looks like he is becoming Water/Ice
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:37 AM
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I think Froakie is going to be Water/Dark.

Majority thinks
Froakie is going to be Water/Fighting
Kennekin is going to be Fire/Psychic
Chespin is going to be Grass/Dark
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Look at the end of that icy water shoot. It's water at the end.
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Look at all these Froakie avatars. Lovely.

I too think that Froakie will be a Water/Dark type. We already have a water/fighting frog pokemon in the form of Poliwrath. And water/dark fits his looks more.
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I think it will be water poison, it's a frog and looks like a poison dart frog.
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The white hood reminds me of Eskimos and even though the attack is water it looks like ice water
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I think it will be water poison, it's a frog and looks like a poison dart frog.
Croagunk is almost Water/Poison. However it's Fighting/Poison but have ability to use water move-set.
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Omg the pokemon fanbase is to quick on the fanart. XD
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Omg the pokemon fanbase is to quick on the fanart. XD
And rule 34. :/
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And rule 34. :/
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Croagunk is almost Water/Poison. However it's Fighting/Poison but have ability to use water move-set.
I know, I'm aware of that, but it doesn't mean it can't have that type pairing too. At this point, multiple of type combos are going to happen naturually, so we can't really take that as much into account now.
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Im calling it, Froakie is water/bug
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Why in the world would he be bug? He's a frog :/
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Why in the world would he be bug? He's a frog :/


I was just joking :P
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They seriously could all be anything though. No one in the world thought a blue water penguin could become part steel.
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They seriously could all be anything though. No one in the world thought a blue water penguin could become part steel.


Once we see them final evolutions we'll know for sure.
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Alright I take back what I said about the pokemon fanbase all being whiners.

They're ****ing awesome.
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I have a feeling Fennekin will end up looking like Amaterasu from Okami
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Dat stache.
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The blue red yellow thing represents the colors of the DNA, Check the Japanese Logo.

Black and white colors are just.. black and white colors -_-
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Wow, you guys really just have nothing to do huh? Making speculations just by plain color? :S Desperate much?
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Wow, you guys really just have nothing to do huh? Making speculations just by plain color? :S Desperate much?
It's obvious we are all laughing at the picture right... right guys?
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I am hoping the starters evolve into something like this:


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I'd have my whole team full of Fennekins if its final form looks like this.
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oh yea then with my team full of Chespi-

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I am hoping the starters evolve into something like this:


Chespin's looks like Excadrill.
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I seriously hope Froakie doesn't end up looking like that :/
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Chespin's looks like Excadrill.
Yep.

Froakie's looks like a geezer frog.

Fennekin's looks like it has...hearing problems. I mean, that long breaded ear hair would definitely disturb its hearing no?
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Also, ear hair beard for Fenniken? :P
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Also, ear hair beard for Fenniken? :P
I know, right? Looks like she's prone to some acute otitis externa.
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Also, ear hair beard for Fenniken? :P
Fennec Fox is known to have big ears and long hair in them.
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Also, ear hair beard for Fenniken? :P
Guess you've never seen a Fennec fox in your life? XD

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I know, right? Looks like she's prone to some acute otitis externa.

Fennekin (heck even the NAME tells it) is based on the fennec fox, which is know to have hair portruding out of the ears.
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I'm not saying the ear hair is weird. Fennekin has quite a bit, after all. I'm saying the ear hair BEARD is weird. XD

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Guess you've never seen a Fennec fox in your life? XD




Fennekin (heck even the NAME tells it) is based on the fennec fox, which is know to have hair portruding out of the ears.
Look at theeese manly cuties.

What's amazing is that you can find them in Kuwait :3 They kill, they're cute.

Edit: Oh I see, still cute.
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I'm not saying the ear hair is weird. Fennekin has quite a bit, after all. I'm saying the ear hair BEARD is weird. XD

EDIT:

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Well I don't know about that pic since it definetely isn't official.
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I would be sad if Chespin ended up like that, it would seem he made an amazing transformation from a cute little squirrel/beaver into a big mole. Its also too much like Excadril
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I'm not saying the ear hair is weird. Fennekin has quite a bit, after all. I'm saying the ear hair BEARD is weird. XD

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i jus wanna find out the type castin cuz fennekin seem like fire/phychic or jus raw fire... froakie water ground.....chespin jsu look like a grass ground/rock but who knows there 2nd and 3rd forme have the 2nd types


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I'm not saying the ear hair is weird. Fennekin has quite a bit, after all. I'm saying the ear hair BEARD is weird. XD

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I'd be okay if they looked like that in their final forms.
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I'd beat you with my full team of Froakies
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Well, my team of Chespins will need someone to beat every day.
So you're team of #TeamChespins?

I thought you were Froakie...

Prepare to faint here!!!
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Well, my team of Chespins will need someone to beat every day.
Yes.

Also, I really hope Chespin's final evo in particular doesn't look like that fanart. As others have pointed out it closely resembles Exadrill.
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So you're team of #TeamChespins?

I thought you were Froakie...

Prepare to faint here!!!
I'm torn between Chespin and Froakie. If someone could get me an egg of the opposite Pokemon when the games release, I'd be eternally grateful. It would save the difficulty of having to choose.
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That statement is pretty daring...

For a grass type
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Ok, i have a question, i have a bunch of pokemon on white that i want to trade to white 2, but then i'd have to get hundreds of pidove's, should i just wait for X/Y and hope for an easy/fast way to transfer?
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Ok, i have a question, i have a bunch of pokemon on white that i want to trade to white 2, but then i'd have to get hundreds of pidove's, should i just wait for X/Y and hope for an easy/fast way to transfer?
I doubt there will be an easy or fast way, as they haven't come up with one yet. Gen 3 -> Gen 4 was the catching mini-game, once a day. Gen 4 -> Gen 5 was the slingshot game. None were convenient.
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Ok, i have a question, i have a bunch of pokemon on white that i want to trade to white 2, but then i'd have to get hundreds of pidove's, should i just wait for X/Y and hope for an easy/fast way to transfer?
There's no further announcement about X/Y Transfer yet. So I don't know about X/Y to have the ability to transfer Pokemon from BW/BW2 to X/Y.
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There's no further announcement about X/Y Transfer yet. So I don't know about X/Y to have the ability to transfer Pokemon from BW/BW2 to X/Y.
*Sigh* I guess i'll have to catch a billion Pidove's
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*Sigh* I guess i'll have to catch a billion Pidove's
You have to wait patiently before you can catch all that one billion Pidove... It will be a long wait. If there were an announcement about "Transfer" on X/Y to happen then I do feel pity for all of your effort to be wasted on 1 billion Pidove forever~
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You have to wait patiently before you can catch all that one billion Pidove... It will be a long wait. If there were an announcement about "Transfer" on X/Y to happen then I do feel pity for all of your effort to be wasted on 1 billion Pidove forever~
Actually, now that i think about it, i will wait until X/Y, because if i spent ages transfering them to white 2 and then it turns out i'll have to do the same thing to get them to X/Y, i might aswell wait for X/Y and just transfer them from White instead of White 2 :P
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Ok, i have a question, i have a bunch of pokemon on white that i want to trade to white 2, but then i'd have to get hundreds of pidove's, should i just wait for X/Y and hope for an easy/fast way to transfer?
The sending pokemon stuff could be much better this time, since it'll probably be done through an eShop app, well, hopefully it'll be better, I want to send a full box in one shot :}

Edit: oh, my bad, didn't read your post well.

keep them in white
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Hey guys,


Don't get too down if they don't have an option to transfer Pokemon from an older Gen.

It means all of the currently hacked Pokemon in circulation right now will be useless going forward.

I agree it's only a matter of time before someone hacks the 3DS for real but the 3DS can support DLC that could slow down hackers. Or, once it's been hacked for so long release a massive update that once again renders all hacks useless until they learn how to re hack it again.


I hope that you can't transfer.
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I also hope you can't transfer so that I'll be on the same level as guys who played all the DS versions
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I feel somewhat conflicted about the prospect of no generational trades. On the one hand the argument for removing modified Pok?mon is very compelling.

On the other hand, there are a lot of monsters I have which I have put an exceptional amount of time into training, hundreds into thousands of hours over the course of nearly ten years now. For all that work to suddenly be rendered defunct would be somewhat crushing.

Honestly, I think hack-checks in the same vein as those currently carried out for online battles are more than sufficient. Preserving the ability to transfer while blocking those with abilities and movesets(?) they shouldn't be able to have.
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Wait, so there is no possible way to trade your Pokemon over to X/Y from the older games? Does that mean all the Pokemon are available in the games?
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No, but it's potentially possible. Personally, I think it will still be possible, but as always there's no way to tell until it can be properly confirmed.
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Wait, so there is no possible way to trade your Pokemon over to X/Y from the older games? Does that mean all the Pokemon are available in the games?
Nothing's been confirmed yet.

People are just speculating
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Froakie's final evolution confirmed!


evolves into

... wait a minute...
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@ Tekka, The point of not allowing hacks is not to stop illegal move sets... In my opinion.
It's to stop people hacking perfect Pokemon with little to no effort put in what so ever.

If I see a Pokemon using an illegal move I would usually just laugh, but a perfect IV team of shiny Pokemon is obviously a hacked team.

If you don't want to put the effort in either don't compete online or use the simulators.
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Nothing's been confirmed yet.

People are just speculating
Phew. I hope there is, but I can see why there's not.
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Yes, hack checks will not discriminate against those that are technically still legitimate, but that's something that would have to be accepted as long as transfers are still possible.

However, it is not as simple as no transfers = all is good. There are more factors to consider. A blanket ban would not only stop this but also hurt those of us who do not cheat, and consequently deny us the fruits of the labour we have put into the series over an entire decade.

Also, as others have said in the future, cheating may once again be possible. Meaning all that work would have been lost for temporary gains.

Your standards will of course be different from mine, but there are certain undesirable elements from the previous generation which I am willing to put up with that mean very little in the long term, in exchange for not losing ten years of work.
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I appreciate the hard work that you have put in

Sooner or later though, I'd have thought, there will come a time when generation switching will be impossible and a fresh start must occur.

I hear people complain that if they can't transfer their Pokemon then all event Pokemon and one off Pokemon are lost. Are they really though? How many people actually use their event Pokemon in online battles? Most legendary Pokemon are banned.. So I can't really see the problem. It's like not they are being taken away from you. You still own them and can use them.. Just not in this gen. It happened in Red/Blue/Yellow and Gold/Silver/Crystal.

Putting in the hard work to raise a team will be rewarding in the long run. The amount of Pokemon is said to hit over 700 when Gen 6 is released. The odds of you using the exact same team you used in Gen 5 is quite slim. The Pokemon you have right now might have access to new moves, new evolutions, new stat spreads, new natures and abilities, new items may come about that change the meta game totally.

Obviously all of this is just speculation at the moment, but my point is, the odds of the team you have raised from egg's being 100% useful in a totally new Gen no one knows anything about is very slim. So you will have to raise a totally new team anyway.

Can you see my point ?
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I do see your point, of course, and I'm certainly not questioning the validity of it. But again, there is more to it than just battling. I'm not ashamed to admit that I am as much a collector as I am a trainer, and I can get very sentimental about those tiny scraps of data! Especially the ones that have been with me for a very long time.

I am however, not going to lose my **** over a game if I can't transfer, because I have no problem with starting over if it's unavoidable. But as long as it's still up in the air I'm still going to advocate for transfer, as pointless as being that advocator may be in regards to the plans that Nintendo already has.
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I've had "Sky" the Rayquaza since Emerald Version. He's the only pokemon I ever bothered to level up to 100.

I don't care about competitive battling. If I can't see my baby in glorious 3D, I will be one sad pokemon trainer.
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I understand your attachment to your "bits of data" haha. I feel the same way.

I guess it may have been a little easier for me to let mine stay on a cart due to the fact that I never had a DS or DS Lite, so I was never able to trade my Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald & Fire Red/Leaf Green Pokemon over to the DS generation of games.

If I am being totally honest with you though I think Game Freak will allow generation transfers I just hope they don't personally.
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I wouldn't mind starting over. I completed the National Dex for White 2, so if it is transferable it's just a matter of spending a large amount of time transferring stuff to (X?), and then completing the new region's dex. Fun.

A fresh start for everyone would set everyone on the same page again, and with the worldwide launch it's really fitting. Now's as good a time as ever for a clean slate. Plus, there's always Gen 5 games for online battles with your old pokemon.


Though I admit I would be pissed if I crafted the perfect online team from scratch over a few years and couldn't transfer them.
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@ Zeuzio,

Good point about the world wide release. It really does make more sense to have a clean slate for that.

As for your final point about being annoyed if you perfected a team, I still struggle to see why this would be SO annoying.

Obviously the main reason would be all the time you put into the team but.... even if you were able to transfer the odds of that team being viable to compete with no Gen 6 updates would be next to nothing. Almost all Pokemon change their tier and usefulness with the release of a new game/Gen .
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On the subject of hacking, Nintendo is never going to be able completely block it out. I know Nintendo will never do this but I think the easiest way to stop it is if Nintendo made their own way of "hacking". Like some kind of eShop app that lets you modify your Pokemon. But when you use that app, it puts a check on your Pokemon to let the game know that they've been modified. And Pokemon modified through the app either can't be used online or can online be used in special servers. I mean if there's a server dedicated to people either using modified Pokemon or people who KNOW the people they're going up against will have modified Pokemon, then I don't see the problem. Of course there will still be people who hack through other means and still be assholes online but the numbers will be fewer.
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On the subject of hacking, Nintendo is never going to be able completely block it out. I know Nintendo will never do this but I think the easiest way to stop it is if Nintendo made their own way of "hacking". Like some kind of eShop app that lets you modify your Pokemon. But when you use that app, it puts a check on your Pokemon to let the game know that they've been modified. And Pokemon modified through the app either can't be used online or can online be used in special servers. I mean if there's a server dedicated to people either using modified Pokemon or people who KNOW the people they're going up against will have modified Pokemon, then I don't see the problem. Of course there will still be people who hack through other means and still be assholes online but the numbers will be fewer.
I really like this idea as a way of stopping hacks vs legit.

I would not be against this idea at all.

The only problem with it is it kind of negates the need for IV's, EV's and such actually being made available in the game.

Other than that, it's almost the perfect solution.
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I'm not sure that would be effective at all. Casual cheaters who just want to "catch em all" as it were, the kind who would actually use that application, really aren't the problem you've described as they wouldn't care about online play or making a strong team.

Those who currently cheat competitively, the real problem, are still going to look for ways to get those modified Pokemon online, so nothing changes.
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With how quickly time's been going by lately, it'll be October before I know it! Regardless, I should be kept busy for a while with all the other amazing 3DS games being released this year.

You shall be mine soon, Fennekin!
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With how quickly time's been going by lately, it'll be October before I know it! Regardless, I should be kept busy for a while with all the other amazing 3DS games being released this year.


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Those who currently cheat competitively, the real problem, are still going to look for ways to get those modified Pokemon online, so nothing changes.
That's why I brought up the idea is for a specific online server for people who use modified Pokemon or people who are fine with battling users with modified Pokemon. That wouldn't stop people completely from hacking through other means but I think plenty of people would be fine with using a separate server when using modified Pokemon. The only people who wouldn't really be fine with that are jerks that just go online to mess with people. And oh well, I guess that kind of stuff will happen no matter what. But I think some kind of separate server for modified Pokemon could work.
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That's why I brought up the idea is for a specific online server for people who use modified Pokemon or people who are fine with battling users with modified Pokemon. That wouldn't stop people completely from hacking through other means but I think plenty of people would be fine with using a separate server when using modified Pokemon. The only people who wouldn't really be fine with that are jerks that just go online to mess with people. And oh well, I guess that kind of stuff will happen no matter what. But I think some kind of separate server for modified Pokemon could work.
Pretty much. As long as it's possible to do, people can and will cheat in any environment in the pursuit of glory.

Having one server for the cheaters and one for everyone else is just beyond wishful thinking, and they're certainly not going to have a separate section in the Championships for cheaters. What kind of message does any of that send? That cheating is okay, sometimes? From Pok?mon? I don't think so. That's why I'm 99.9% sure that this will not ever happen above all other reasons.
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1. I'm very excited for X and Y. I will probably be getting Y myself but that may change depending on what information is released before it's release.
2. International launch will be awesome. We'll all be starting fresh at around the same time.
3. The graphics look fine to me, Kid Icarus didn't look that spectacular in trailers and gameplay footage but in person it's beautiful. I doubt GF would give us B/W graphics on a much more powerful system.
4. The starters design is fine. I don't get how anyone can call them "uninspired" have you seen some of the pokemon we've had in the past? Someone is on a nostalgia high.
5. I was originally going to go for Chespin, and I voted for him but the more I look at Froakie, I can't help but rethink my decision. I've generally always gone for the water starter to begin with. Fennekin is nice but I feel like GF is trying to sell it as the fan favorite. I mean it's a fire fox, what isn't appealing about that? I'll get a good laugh if it ends up being a fire/fighting type though.
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I feel somewhat conflicted about the prospect of no generational trades. On the one hand the argument for removing modified Pok?mon is very compelling.

On the other hand, there are a lot of monsters I have which I have put an exceptional amount of time into training, hundreds into thousands of hours over the course of nearly ten years now. For all that work to suddenly be rendered defunct would be somewhat crushing.

Honestly, I think hack-checks in the same vein as those currently carried out for online battles are more than sufficient. Preserving the ability to transfer while blocking those with abilities and movesets(?) they shouldn't be able to have.
I've spent countless hours on white getting nearly all pokemon, all i want to do is transfer them to X/Y so i don't have to start over completely :/

Also, if i get the fire starter, i'm definately calling it Fox MacCloud xD
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.......Why do people not think you will be able to transfer pokemon to the new games? It's been kind of a "thing" that nintendo does now . They'll do it after you beat the elite 4 just like always. But I liked the idea of 6 maximum per day to encourage you to try and get the pokemon in that game instead of just getting freebies.
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.......Why do people not think you will be able to transfer pokemon to the new games? It's been kind of a "thing" that nintendo does now . They'll do it after you beat the elite 4 just like always. But I liked the idea of 6 maximum per day to encourage you to try and get the pokemon in that game instead of just getting freebies.
I think there will be a transfer, but i just hope it's not like white to white 2 where you have to trade.
I think it should be like HG/SS/D/P/PL to Black And White.
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I think there will be a transfer, but i just hope it's not like white to white 2 where you have to trade.
I think it should be like HG/SS/D/P/PL to Black And White.
Thats because BW 2 to BW wasnt a new gen
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I recon it is a step forward for the better. We can't keep sprites forever.
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Would I be right in saying that Xerneas is the first non-monsterish legendary mascot? Or would that title go to Suicune?
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With how quickly time's been going by lately, it'll be October before I know it! Regardless, I should be kept busy for a while with all the other amazing 3DS games being released this year.
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Time is constant. But in all seriousness, lucky. Time is going slowly for me.

When are the other amazing 3DS games being released this year? I know Fire Emblem, but we still don't know when Luigi's Mansion and Animal Crossing are coming out. Oh yeah, we know Mystery Dungeon.

But still, time will go slow until Fire Emblem comes out, then fast while I play it. Then slow until the next game (Most likely Mystery Dungeon) then fast while I play. Wash, rinse and repeat with the other 3DS and Wii U games and Pokemon seems like it is a millenia away.
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I'm honestly not that excited for this game, and I was one of the people wishing for the move to 3d. . I'm sure when more info is released I'll be more excited.
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Game Freak's REALLY outdone themselves this time. X and Y already go above and beyond my expectations with full 3D graphics and a dynamic camera. (Finally!)

Can't wait to get back into the series after I left it in Gen V. I'll probably get Y because its legendary is higher on the awesometude scale. As for Starters, I'm torn between the Grass and Fire ones ;_; Hope I'll be able to decide by the time October rolls in.
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That's why I brought up the idea is for a specific online server for people who use modified Pokemon or people who are fine with battling users with modified Pokemon. That wouldn't stop people completely from hacking through other means but I think plenty of people would be fine with using a separate server when using modified Pokemon. The only people who wouldn't really be fine with that are jerks that just go online to mess with people. And oh well, I guess that kind of stuff will happen no matter what. But I think some kind of separate server for modified Pokemon could work.
That's actually impossible to do due to the way Pokemon data is checked.
Legal PID As in the right combos of number that takes Gender, Ability, Nature and Shininess into account.)
If the PID is legal, than there's no way to differentiate a modified pokemon from a natural one. If the PID doesn,t correspond to the data mentioned above, it's fake and therefore will be banned.
Personality value - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pok?mon encyclopedia
Then there's are moves to take account, if it's a move it can't learn it will be banned.
EV's 255 in one stat, 510 in total. If it exceeds, it's banned
IV ranges from 0-31 for each stat. Technically it is possible to make a perfect pokemon with 31 IV in each stat. It is hard though. And ,it will not be banned whatsoever.
Fun fact: N's pokemon in Pokemon B2/W2 that you can earn all have perfect IV's in each stat.
Pokeballs, Where it is caught, events, time of day, etc
I could go on and on on how it is comepletly easy to make a mod. pokemon act like a legal one, with no way to differentiate between the 2. Which is why allowing a server for mod. pokemon would be useless. + It wouldn't be the right thing to do since it will encourage people to cheat.

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Would I be right in saying that Xerneas is the first non-monsterish legendary mascot? Or would that title go to Suicune?
That depends of your definition of a monster, considering I don't see Ho-oH as a monster at all. Neither Suicune.
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I can't decided between Froakie and Fennekin :/
I like Froakie because its blue and thats my favorite color. Also because I favor more to water pokemon.

I like Fennekin just because it looks more feminine also cause its cute
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Ive been doing some analyze lately and Im not totally sold by this new versions, I mean Ive seen people who say "Ill reserve them as fast as the store allows me" and tbh that sounds silly and I think thats why gamefreak can throw us everything with the word pokemon and we will always buy it, for me in the personal I dont see X and Y as the best 3ds games (from what Ive seen so far) they dont even look as the best Ds games and even though some people will blindlessly buy a 3ds just for playing it without even knowing what Streetpass means, as for me Im not at all sold by the 3d graphics and New generation thing, If this game doesnt come with the 3ds games standards qualities with everything the 3ds can bring to the table I think I'll just pass over and wait until Z is avaible on 2014 and maybe Ill keep up with the new generation by other methods but I wont pay for a new 3ds game only because it has the word Pokemon on it, This is my opinion
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Ive been doing some analyze lately and Im not totally sold by this new versions, I mean Ive seen people who say "Ill reserve them as fast as the store allows me" and tbh that sounds silly and I think thats why gamefreak can throw us everything with the word pokemon and we will always buy it, for me in the personal I dont see X and Y as the best 3ds games (from what Ive seen so far) they dont even look as the best Ds games and even though some people will blindlessly buy a 3ds just for playing it without even knowing what Streetpass means, as for me Im not at all sold by the 3d graphics and New generation thing, If this game doesnt come with the 3ds games standards qualities with everything the 3ds can bring to the table I think I'll just pass over and wait until Z is avaible on 2014 and maybe Ill keep up with the new generation by other methods but I wont pay for a new 3ds game only because it has the word Pokemon on it, This is my opinion
They clearly stated that the gameplay was not final. They have roughly nine months to make the game better. Who knows how old that footage could have been, it could have actually been earlier than now in the development.

Clearly GF will be able to make better 3D games down the road. This is their first try at it. Pokemon D/P don't look as good graphically as Pokemon B2/W2.

You say the 3DS' standard qualities and everything it can bring to the table. Yet, you like MK7. MK7 was developed quickly and early on in the 3DS' life-cycle. I am sure if Nintendo took until the 3DS' last year of life, MK would be much better. So of course Pokemon Z/X2/Y2/whatever will look better than Pokemon X and Y.
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They clearly stated that the gameplay was not final. They have roughly nine months to make the game better. Who knows how old that footage could have been, it could have actually been earlier than now in the development.

Clearly GF will be able to make better 3D games down the road. This is their first try at it. Pokemon D/P don't look as good graphically as Pokemon B2/W2.

You say the 3DS' standard qualities and everything it can bring to the table. Yet, you like MK7. MK7 was developed quickly and early on in the 3DS' life-cycle. I am sure if Nintendo took until the 3DS' last year of life, MK would be much better. So of course Pokemon Z/X2/Y2/whatever will look better than Pokemon X and Y.
Yeah I do love MK7 because I feel the efforcement put in making that game! And Im not judging X and Y too quickly I know they will get a lot better due time. Currently Im playing Black 2 and I feel the efforcement of that game, they didnt make because they had to, they made it with love! But I think gamefreak should had focus on showing what knew feautures will that game bring, and my real anger is against people that I know who will get a 3ds just for playing Gen 6 without even using the system for anything else what I take as an offense and it also saddens me so I hope GF focus more on what new things it brings to the table instead of only showing 5 new pokemon I mean in my case I need a lot more than that to get convinced.
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Yeah I do love MK7 because I feel the efforcement put in making that game! And Im not judging X and Y too quickly I know they will get a lot better due time. Currently Im playing Black 2 and I feel the efforcement of that game, they didnt make because they had to, they made it with love! But I think gamefreak should had focus on showing what knew feautures will that game bring, and my real anger is against people that I know who will get a 3ds just for playing Gen 6 without even using the system for anything else what I take as an offense and it also saddens me so I hope GF focus more on what new things it brings to the table instead of only showing 5 new pokemon I mean in my case I need a lot more than that to get convinced.
5 Pokemon + a trailer is a HUGE reveal for a Pokemon game. Much better than just legendaries, or silhouettes.
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I typically forget that things never always look great on YouTube like this.

WOW it looks alot better
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Yeah I do love MK7 because I feel the efforcement put in making that game! And Im not judging X and Y too quickly I know they will get a lot better due time. Currently Im playing Black 2 and I feel the efforcement of that game, they didnt make because they had to, they made it with love! But I think gamefreak should had focus on showing what knew feautures will that game bring, and my real anger is against people that I know who will get a 3ds just for playing Gen 6 without even using the system for anything else what I take as an offense and it also saddens me so I hope GF focus more on what new things it brings to the table instead of only showing 5 new pokemon I mean in my case I need a lot more than that to get convinced.
Explain to me how you take offense for the fact other people don't get the same experiences from one system than you do.

Having more people buy the 3ds just for this game will be a good thing no matter what. Even if lets say half of them don't do anything with it some of them will notice the potential the system has and may even make their way to this forum.

Don't hate the game, hate the fact that no other game was appealing enough to bring people in.
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Explain to me how you take offense for the fact other people don't get the same experiences from one system than you do.

Having more people buy the 3ds just for this game will be a good thing no matter what. Even if lets say half of them don't do anything with it some of them will notice the potential the system has and may even make their way to this forum.

Don't hate the game, hate the fact that no other game was appealing enough to bring people in.
Well Fact: I really hate you! I mean Pokemon isnt even the best game the system has to offer and Pokemon isnt what makes the system great! Either way you are rigth more people with 3ds is a good thing... I mean we will have more streetpass if we teach them what that is
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Well Fact: I really hate you! I mean Pokemon isnt even the best game the system has to offer and Pokemon isnt what makes the system great! Either way you are rigth more people with 3ds is a good thing... I mean we will have more streetpass if we teach them what that is
wat. whhy D:
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And then after the demo you can continue where you left off with the same starter and stuff?

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Well Fact: I really hate you! I mean Pokemon isnt even the best game the system has to offer and Pokemon isnt what makes the system great! Either way you are rigth more people with 3ds is a good thing... I mean we will have more streetpass if we teach them what that is
Lolwut?

Have you ever played Pokemon X or Y? Have you played every 3DS game? Is your OPINION regarded as fact for some reason?

For me, the best game would be a game that has replayability, is fun, and has content. Pokemon has all three. Others do also, but so far Pokemon Heart Gold is my most played game on my 3DS, not counting the hours I spent on it on my regular DS. I believe Pokemon X/Y could become the best game on the system, beating out Kid Icarus. OPINION

I really hope we get new info soon. Also, I hope Nintendo make Limited Edition 3DS XLs for Pokemon X and Y. The respective legendary on each one. I mean, it seems very likely. They made two for Charizard and Pikachu, and they even are bringing the Fire Emblem 3DS to NA, so they seem to listen to fans.
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Well Fact: I really hate you! I mean Pokemon isnt even the best game the system has to offer and Pokemon isnt what makes the system great! Either way you are rigth more people with 3ds is a good thing... I mean we will have more streetpass if we teach them what that is
That was completely unnecessary. Calm down.

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Well Fact: I really hate you! I mean Pokemon isnt even the best game the system has to offer and Pokemon isnt what makes the system great! Either way you are rigth more people with 3ds is a good thing... I mean we will have more streetpass if we teach them what that is
This is coming from a person whose name is "salamence"?
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And then after the demo you can continue where you left off with the same starter and stuff?

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IF it's going to happen, I bet it'll have 5 plays limit at most.

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Lolwut?

Have you ever played Pokemon X or Y? Have you played every 3DS game? Is your OPINION regarded as fact for some reason?

For me, the best game would be a game that has replayability, is fun, and has content. Pokemon has all three. Others do also, but so far Pokemon Heart Gold is my most played game on my 3DS, not counting the hours I spent on it on my regular DS. I believe Pokemon X/Y could become the best game on the system, beating out Kid Icarus. OPINION

I really hope we get new info soon. Also, I hope Nintendo make Limited Edition 3DS XLs for Pokemon X and Y. The respective legendary on each one. I mean, it seems very likely. They made two for Charizard and Pikachu, and they even are bringing the Fire Emblem 3DS to NA, so they seem to listen to fans.
Well Im really talking as if Im drunk because I am currently playing Pokemon Black 2 on my 3Ds xD, I think am judging the game too far because they havent even say anything it "-", the thing that make me talk like a complete *** is that a friend who bougth a 3ds to another friend for a Sale is planning to buy the game (even preorder it) and he was just talking *** about the 3ds saying it was kiddie and other kind of stuff, then about 2 weeks ago another friend with 3ds lent him Revelations and he said he was blown up for the graphics and everything then he said "it was weird to see something good from "NINTENDO" (and Capcom made the game) when it is about graphics and games" he is a Sony lover and it really sickens me seeing he hasnt even Updated his 3ds and doesnt use about any future of it... But anyway you're rigth more people buying 3ds means more support and good thing will be coming

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What is this? Nintendo finally stopped recycling the same pokemon garbage since 1998?

This actually looks interesting.... This actually looks good.
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Froakie looks so awesome and cool. Then again I'm always biased towards the water starters. except Oshawott, I can't stand Samurot.
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What is this? Nintendo finally stopped recycling the same pokemon garbage since 1998?

This actually looks interesting.... This actually looks good.
Nintendo isn't the company that makes the games. They are made by Game Freak.
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What is this? Nintendo finally stopped recycling the same pokemon garbage since 1998?

This actually looks interesting.... This actually looks good.
So are you saying when Pokemon first came out it was garbage or every game after the first ones? Either way, you're wrong. What could GF do with the graphical style in Gen. 2? It wasn't possible to make it 3D until now, at least on handheld. They went with 2.5D to change it up.
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I finally voted for Chespin. Grass has always been my type of choice although I'll need some warming up to the rodent idea, especially after having become so close to my Snivy. I hope there is the possibility of trading from B/W and B2/W2.
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If Chespin's finnal evolve form is Grass/Ground i'm definately getting him.
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Saw this today i thought it was pretty funny. But i do wish The new grass starter was green.
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Official art for both legendaries in Serebii.

Yveltal is incredible <3
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Saw this today i thought it was pretty funny. But i do wish The new grass starter was green.
Well, it's entire back side is green, and there's a completely non-orange/red fire starter that also happens to be very popular.
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I like Yvental more, but I need to wait until I see the Version-exclusives.
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Oh my god this game looks horrible.

Game Freak....what ave you done?
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Oh my god this game looks horrible.

Game Freak....what ave you done?
I don't know what they have done, but I think we'll have to wait and see where this is going, concerning gameplay and graphics.
Maybe I'll wait for the next trailer, even though I'm willing to avoid any news about how the starters will evolve.
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What exactly makes them look horrible? I'm not being hostile or anything, but how can someone base their opinion of a game off of about thirty overall seconds of footage?
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What is this? Nintendo finally stopped recycling the same pokemon garbage since 1998?

This actually looks interesting.... This actually looks good.
But from what we can tell so far, this still is the same recycled garbage. It just LOOKS different.
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What are the chances that Game Freak will remake some of the really old Pokemon cries?
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Very low, I'd say.
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What are the chances that Game Freak will remake some of the really old Pokemon cries?
I don't see them doing that, considering how painfully bad they turned out in the stadium games when they tried it then, but maybe enhancing them for 3ds speakers.

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I was thinking...

We should be able to move diagonally because of the scene in the trailer with the spider web- it looked like some kind of gym puzzle.
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-Game Freak announces Generation 6 of Pokemon-

-Half of the forum change their avatars to the new starters-
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What exactly makes them look horrible? I'm not being hostile or anything, but how can someone base their opinion of a game off of about thirty overall seconds of footage?
When I mean "looks" I literally mean how it looks, the graphics seem weird
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When I mean "looks" I literally mean how it looks, the graphics seem weird
Oh noooo, they are changing how the games look!!!




Seriously, the change was coming. It was only a matter of time.
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Seriously, the change was coming. It was only a matter of time.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't mean I have to like it
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Welp, they're not making you play it either. Move along to another game if you don't like what's being done.
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Doesn't mean I have to like it

The way your acting is like saying you would hate Nintendo for changing the graphics of Legend of Zelda from this:




to this:



It was a long time coming for pokemon to upgrade to 3d graphics, and I think it actually looks good. You should try watching the official websites version of the preview rather than the youtube version. It looks a lot better.
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But from what we can tell so far, this still is the same recycled garbage. It just LOOKS different.
Well, one man's garbage is another man's treasure I guess. I'm a huge fan of these so called recycled garbage games and I find this one to be very promising as well.

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We should be able to move diagonally because of the scene in the trailer with the spider web- it looked like some kind of gym puzzle.
That'd be super awesome!
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But from what we can tell so far, this still is the same recycled garbage. It just LOOKS different.
Kinda like Carl on Duty?
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Kinda like Carl on Duty?
Least this one's evolving
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Well, one man's garbage is another man's treasure I guess. I'm a huge fan of these so called recycled garbage games and I find this one to be very promising as well.
I wasn't really saying the games are garbage. More just reusing the same words as the last guy. It's just that from what we can tell so far, there really isn't anything that makes this completely different from the other games besides a different graphics style. Cause if the guy doesn't like this Pokemon "garbage" to begin with, there's no real reason for him to like this.
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Well Im really talking as if Im drunk because I am currently playing Pokemon Black 2 on my 3Ds xD, I think am judging the game too far because they havent even say anything it "-", the thing that make me talk like a complete *** is that a friend who bougth a 3ds to another friend for a Sale is planning to buy the game (even preorder it) and he was just talking *** about the 3ds saying it was kiddie and other kind of stuff, then about 2 weeks ago another friend with 3ds lent him Revelations and he said he was blown up for the graphics and everything then he said "it was weird to see something good from "NINTENDO" (and Capcom made the game) when it is about graphics and games" he is a Sony lover and it really sickens me seeing he hasnt even Updated his 3ds and doesnt use about any future of it... But anyway you're rigth more people buying 3ds means more support and good thing will be coming

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What I was meaning is that I hate the Fact not him! Sorry if you misunderstood I thought it was clear next time I will use "" because I was agree with the guy

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I should change my name to Pit (?) JK I have always loved Pokemon I just got a little out of my way /: but I wont dishonor my name anymore!

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I dont hate you Smeaxy I hate the fact sorry if you misunderstood dude...
Did someone mind reading this? I really want to leave this clear...
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Why do people always make the comparison between CoD and Pokemon? The only similarity is that they both have terrible fanbases.

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How Pokemon Went Viral - DNSQ - YouTube

Found this on Youtube and I think it points out to a lot of reasons why Pokemon became so huge. It's also cool because it's going back to when it first came out.
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love everything about this game...
except maybe the main character...
He looks just like the one from black/white.
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love everything about this game...
except maybe the main character...
He looks just like the one from black/white.
This could explain why his presence wasn't notice in pokemon black/white 2.
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This could explain why his presence wasn't notice in pokemon black/white 2.
They're not literally the same character though, just look similar. I do still speculate that maybe you could face hilbert/Hilda as a super trainer in this game though, because they came to this region.
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So it goes from "horrible" to "weird"? Or is it both?
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MFW if froakie ends up not water/poison type.
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How fan art of the girl trainer came from it I don't know


Also, Pokesmash is on tonight. Not expecting anything new, but maybe
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MFW if froakie ends up not water/poison type.
I hope Froakie is Water/Ice, mainly because Ice is my favourite type. I mean, the "clouds" around Froakie's neck could actually be snow.
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So it goes from "horrible" to "weird"? Or is it both?
Silly Toby, anything new in the pokemon series is horrible. Infact, it's been ruined since gen 5!
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Froakie kinda looks like a water/fighting type to me. that would be cool. instead of the usual Fire/fighting starters
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Maybe a PWT in X and Y??
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Maybe a PWT in X and Y??
I hope so, but I won't count it.
All the great things from the past game they seem to abandon. Like

-the always run button on HG/SS (Or the whole bottom screen in general)
-A battle frontier like Emerald

but who knows
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You'know what? I don't even want to look at more new pokemon, not even the evolved starters, I just want the game and to play it and let it surprise me.
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This is what I was looking for when I bought my 3DS. I love Pokemon but I stopped watching the series after the second generation of Pokemon with Lugia and Hoho?? I'm going to be so out of touch with these new games.
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Lugia and Ho-Oh. You almost had it lol.
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Here's a pixiv artist's idea of what Froakie's third evolution might be:


I personally think this is pretty cool.
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Froakie kinda looks like a water/fighting type to me. that would be cool. instead of the usual Fire/fighting starters
Poliwrath?
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Poliwrath?
Not like other starters haven't had the same type as other pokemon before. At this point, there's going to be some repeated types.
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Not like other starters haven't had the same type as other pokemon before. At this point, there's going to be some repeated types.
But I do hope this gen brings some justice to the unused types.
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But I do hope this gen brings some justice to the unused types.
Hey did you read my clarification?
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Congrats Nintendo you just kept a whole lot of people including me from selling your device a little while longer (PROPS)
Who are these "a whole lot of people"? Many people are waiting for FE, AC, LM, and Mystery Dungeon, and now this. Not mention other games and ones that are going to be revealed this year. Why should Nintendo care if you sell the system? It just means you probably weren't going to buy any games, so they weren't going to make any money off of you anyways.
Old 01-13-2013, 09:05 AM
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Congrats Nintendo you just kept a whole lot of people including me from selling your device a little while longer (PROPS)
You're preaching to the wrong choir, my friend.

I'm actually not disappointed with the starters this time around. They look pretty cool! Somewhere around the internet I heard them compared to a noble lady (Fennekin,) a stealthy thief (Froakie,) and a brave knight (Chespin.) So that's how I've thought of them lately... I'll probably be going with Froakie. Seems like he has the most personality, plus I usually undermine the water starters. Chespin's a close second, though. Fennekin seems a little too generic to me, unfortunately. Fire fox has definitely been done way too many times... (Then again, I suppose water-frog has been too, but oh well) I hope their final evolutions have a secondary typing that's strong against their respective weaknesses. (i.e. Chespin would be Grass/Dark, Fennekin would be Fire/Psychic, and Froakie would be Water/Fighting, or something like that...)

There's also been talk of character customization. I'd be all for that, considering I hate how that Male character looks, which seems to always be the case in these last three generations...

I really hope this Generation introduces a new type. I think that'd be the perfect way to spice up the competitive battling. My hopes are on Light. It would fit the X-Legendary (haven't memorized names yet,) while the Y-Legendary is obviously some sort of Dark/Flying type. Volbeat, Illumise, Ampharos, Volcarona, Togekiss, Bellossom, Sunflora, Clefable, and Solrock would all be totally applicable to adapting a secondary Light-typing. But this is all just wishful speculation.
Old 01-13-2013, 01:35 PM
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Congrats Nintendo you just kept a whole lot of people including me from selling your device a little while longer (PROPS)


Actually, it's a good plan announcing it this early, so that kids and everybody who doesn't own the system get to save money for it ^^

or in anticipation, they could buy it now.
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I really hope this Generation introduces a new type. I think that'd be the perfect way to spice up the competitive battling. My hopes are on Light. It would fit the X-Legendary (haven't memorized names yet,) while the Y-Legendary is obviously some sort of Dark/Flying type. Volbeat, Illumise, Ampharos, Volcarona, Togekiss, Bellossom, Sunflora, Clefable, and Solrock would all be totally applicable to adapting a secondary Light-typing. But this is all just wishful speculation.
oh god. I don't think a new type will be coming.

Gen II introduced new types only because gen I was horribly imbalanced. As of now the types are actually really balanced with a few types needing a buff. Also we still have a few type combinations not used. Having 1 more type would screw that up.

Also may I please ask why people want a "light" type. It would screw up the Fighting > Dark > Psychic triangle so much, where psychic already fills in the roll of light pretty much. Also Light type is a super ugly name. lol At least call it like Saint or something.
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oh god. I don't think a new type will be coming.

Gen II introduced new types only because gen I was horribly imbalanced. As of now the types are actually really balanced with a few types needing a buff. Also we still have a few type combinations not used. Having 1 more type would screw that up.

Also may I please ask why people want a "light" type. It would screw up the Fighting > Dark > Psychic triangle so much, where psychic already fills in the roll of light pretty much. Also Light type is a super ugly name. lol At least call it like Saint or something.
Saint type? You're kidding me right? *laughs Light type is a better name. Saint type doesn't fit. Considering it will light up controversy with some religions. (Oooh I made a punny!, XD)
A new type coming though, I don't see that happening but it would be interesting.
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There aren't going to be anymore types added, like the rumored sound and light this gen. They only added steel and dark to completely nerd the super over powered psychic in gen 1, and to balance the other types out overall.
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Okay, you know how Light Metal and Heavy Metal alter your pokemon's weight? What we need is an ability that makes your pokemon taller. Have it work like Moxie.

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Okay, you know how Light Metal and Heavy Metal alter your pokemon's weight? What we need is an ability that makes your pokemon taller. Have it work like Moxie.

Hire me, Gamefreak.
You do know some attacks (Heat crash,grass knot, for examples) are actually dependent on the weight of the pokemon right? It wasn't stupid to included those 2 abilities.
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You do know some attacks (Heat crash,grass knot, for examples) are actually dependent on the weight of the pokemon right? It wasn't stupid to included those 2 items.
-abilities-

And yea I think everyone knows that. It's just that no one uses the abilities.
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And yea I think everyone knows that. It's just that no one uses the abilities.
Sorry, I meant abilities. Yeah no one uses them but it has some uses. I don't recall any moves affected by how tall your pok?mon is. So your joke is a bit of a miss.
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I like Froakie's eyes!
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yay i know it looks so advance and epic am getting X
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I'm so excited for this game, I haven't played Pokemon in a while so it'll be a great re-entry.

Only thing - I really wished GameFreak made the art-style and graphics full-3D similar to the new Mystery Dungeon game rather than cell-shading. Oh well, maybe in the future~

Also seeing the history of all the past Pokemon games in the NDirect really makes me hope it's a hint that they'll be released on the eShop when X & Y are released.
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Also seeing the history of all the past Pokemon games in the NDirect really makes me hope it's a hint that they'll be released on the eShop when X & Y are released.
I can guarantee that they will be on the eShop.
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I can guarantee that they will be on the eShop.
Yeah, I can see midnight eShop release as something Nintendo will continue to push on their games. And thanks to the 3DS features, there's no need to have anything special on the actual game cart (Like an IR reader), or any physical bundles like a Pokewalker.
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Oh, Rentaline, I got so excited to see you were the most recent poster, I thought your post may have been about a sub section.....

As to eShop release, I will still be getting this game as a cart. Knowing my local game shop, they'll have some bonus for preordering I just won't be able to resist (like the Kyurem coins we got with Black and White 2). I am very much a gimmick girl. Also I love having the cases and booklets in my collection (gimmick and material girl).
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Normally, my mother can't find anything for me every Christmas because I really don't ask for anything, so as soon as I told her that X & Y were coming out, she told me not to buy Pokemon Y because I'll be receiving it as a Christmas gift. It seems that I'll be purchasing Pokemon X (with the inferior Legendary) to tide me over for Christmas.