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Old Starters Should Become Wild Pokemon
Old 06-22-2013, 07:21 PM
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought this before. Now that we're going in to the 6th generation of pokemon, I think the old starters should become 'normal' pokemon in the sense that you can encounter, battle, and capture them at random in the wild.

I don't know if this changed in Black and White but I know in HG/SS the Kanto starters were special and you could never find them in the wild. At this point it doesn't make sense to keep the old starters as being 'event' pokemon as it does nothing but keep a lot of people away from fan favorites or just makes them a giant pain to acquire. I mean, what's the point in having so many pokemon to choose from and yet keep some of the most loved and viable ones out of reach? I think at least the starters from the first 2-3 gens should become wild types.
Old 06-22-2013, 07:37 PM
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Having them to be easily available cheapens their value. There's a reason legendaries can't be bred and only one can be caught in-game.

It wasn't until BW2 that we finally had wild eevees and even then they can only be found in a small area in the game and are very unlikely to show up.

With the Global Trade Station, starters aren't really that hard to come by at all.

I don't see why making starter pokemon available in the wild is necessary.
Old 06-22-2013, 07:43 PM
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wouldn't that make the starters bland?
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:21 PM
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Having them to be easily available cheapens their value. There's a reason legendaries can't be bred and only one can be caught in-game.

It wasn't until BW2 that we finally had wild eevees and even then they can only be found in a small area in the game and are very unlikely to show up.

With the Global Trade Station, starters aren't really that hard to come by at all.

I don't see why making starter pokemon available in the wild is necessary.
I'm not talking about legendaries though. It makes sense for legandaries to be special since they're supposed to be the absolute rarest pokemon in existence. To the point that people aren't sure they exist.

The starters on the other hand are supposedly supposed to be fairly typical pokemon since we're told that most trainers begin with these, so you can't tell me they're super rare, much less legendary.

You ask why is it necessary to make them wild? By the same token why is it necessary to keep them not wild? I'm not saying they should be common sights but they should at least exist in the wild. What happened? Did all the Pokemon Profs. capture every single Squirtle in the whole world?
Old 06-22-2013, 08:28 PM
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everytime we say the starters a link gets placed to a motorcycle. XD....
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:30 PM
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I'm not talking about legendaries though. It makes sense for legandaries to be special since they're supposed to be the absolute rarest pokemon in existence. To the point that people aren't sure they exist.

The starters on the other hand are supposedly supposed to be fairly typical pokemon since we're told that most trainers begin with these, so you can't tell me they're super rare, much less legendary.

You ask why is it necessary to make them wild? By the same token why is it necessary to keep them not wild? I'm not saying they should be common sights but they should at least exist in the wild. What happened? Did all the Pokemon Profs. capture every single Squirtle in the whole world?
I don't think every trainer starts with those pokes. I think in the anime series that the starters are for the whole regions but the starter you get in the game are only starters for your own town, which is usually a small town.
not to sure but thats how I've always thought of it
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:51 PM
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I'm not talking about legendaries though. It makes sense for legandaries to be special since they're supposed to be the absolute rarest pokemon in existence. To the point that people aren't sure they exist.

The starters on the other hand are supposedly supposed to be fairly typical pokemon since we're told that most trainers begin with these, so you can't tell me they're super rare, much less legendary.

You ask why is it necessary to make them wild? By the same token why is it necessary to keep them not wild? I'm not saying they should be common sights but they should at least exist in the wild. What happened? Did all the Pokemon Profs. capture every single Squirtle in the whole world?
Maybe in the anime that's true but from playing the games I never got the impression that the starter pokemon were common or easy-to-find. Only that they were easy to train and perfect for beginners.

Like I said, having starter pokemon in the wild diminishes their value. The only way I could see it working is if they were about as rare and hard to catch as Chansey.
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Kinvara is exactly right. If they put starters in the wild that would make them, unimportant. They would no longer be "the cool pokemon". They would become Beedoofs. Those Pok?mon no one wants. Unless, they are extremely rare and hard to find.
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Old 06-22-2013, 10:48 PM
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Maybe in the anime that's true but from playing the games I never got the impression that the starter pokemon were common or easy-to-find. Only that they were easy to train and perfect for beginners.

Like I said, having starter pokemon in the wild diminishes their value. The only way I could see it working is if they were about as rare and hard to catch as Chansey.
Okay, but being 'rare' is not the same thing as 'not existing'. Once again, did all of the scientists just remove every starter from the wild and refuse to let them breed freely or something? They exist so they must have a habitat where they live and therefore should be able to be found in the wild.

What is this 'value'? It's not as if we're talking trading card games or something. The only value they have is that they tend to be decent pokemon (not necessarily the best, but decent) and that people tend to like them. There are lots of Pokemon that people really like that are treated normally so why should starters from older games years past have some sort of special status?

Being rare doesn't make them better pokemon. And it's not just that they're 'rare' but that they're impossible to come across through normal means. I'd be perfectly fine with them only being able to be found in a certain place under a certain time or weather condition as long as it's viable. Magikarp is unbelievably common as long as you have a fishing rod and yet he becomes an awesome Pokemon with a tiny bit of work. The fact that Magikarp is common doesn't take away any of Gyarados' badassness.

By the same token there are extremely rare pokemon out there that are, for the most part, just for show. Lickitung, Tauros, etc. These pokemon tend to be harder to come by, at least they were in the earlier games, but weren't all that great in battle.
Old 06-22-2013, 11:07 PM
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It's an easy answer, starters are in the wild, but in places that aren't in game. The starters are supposed uo be special in the sense that they are fairly strong pokemon of that elemental triangle that no one else in the Game will have besides either your one or two rivals....and then like in battle tower kind of things. If they made them wild, Then what would even be the point of you getting a starter pokemon? Plus like kinvara said, you Can eadily get any sdarter on the gts in a minute, So it isn't nearly impossible to get one. You can get all from the first three gens in hgss, And obviously gen 4 and 5 are kn the ds.
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You mean current starters are wild right? It wouldn't make sense for the old starters to be wild when they are not part of the regional dex.
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:03 AM
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Maybe starter pokemon are extinct in the wild? It's not like pokemon has to go by actual logic anyway.

Of course starters get special status because they were the first pokemon a player gets to have in their respective original game.

The whole idea of the game is that there are some pokemon you can't catch by yourself and you have to trade to get them.
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Eh... I guess I can see it working out if they were in an endgame area with a very low encounter rate. I remember the games specifically saying they're rare pokemon. And the first episode of Pokemon seemed to imply Oak literally only had one of each starter to give away, or at least a very low stock. If they were that plentiful then there's no reason most trainers you meet wouldn't have one of them also. I can sympathise with both points, really. I see no reason not to have them in the wild if they're sufficiently hard to get.
Old 06-23-2013, 06:52 AM
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That will be the day when starters are easy to catch in the wild
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:35 PM
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But if you don't have them in your Pokedex how do you get them from GTS?
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:43 PM
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But if you don't have them in your Pokedex how do you get them from GTS?
Either transfering, or go on to random trading untip you get someone that will trade you a starter. If you get someone that breeds them, they wont ask for too much.
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I'd like an easier way to get old starters, not everyone has access to wi-fi.

Maybe they're so rare and endangered that professors caught all of the remaining staters and breed them in captivity.
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Why don't they hold a special event at places like best buy/target(U.S) or game (UK) when new Pokemon games are released and the first x amount of people get random starters from previous gen... There by increasing their sales and making new releases of he game more desirable to let fans of he franchise much like my self??
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Why don't they hold a special event at places like best buy/target(U.S) or game (UK) when new Pokemon games are released and the first x amount of people get random starters from previous gen... There by increasing their sales and making new releases of he game more desirable to let fans of he franchise much like my self??
Because having a small event for people to go get a starter pokemon would at best increase sales minimally.
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True but an increase is still an increase lol... I don't know personally I'm quite happy not having wild starters not really fussed me before the whole pint of new generations (well imo) is to make new teams with new starters and new stratergies is prt of the fun guys it would get old using the same starters again and agin would I not?
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Couldn't you just breed the starter Pokemon with a ditto and get multiple of the same starter Pokemon that way?
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Couldn't you just breed the starter Pokemon with a ditto and get multiple of the same starter Pokemon that way?
Yeah you could do that.But what if you dont have a 2nd (3ds,dsi,dslite,etc.)?
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I don't think the old starters should become wild pokemon I think that would be a bnig mistake if you want them make a egg from another pokemon game you want yes old starters are favourite but they should stay non wild so they still have the tittle starter .
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Yeah you could do that.But what if you dont have a 2nd (3ds,dsi,dslite,etc.)?
Um, if ditto is a wild pokemon you can just straight up catch it with 1 DS and breed. Or you use the GTS
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