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Been looking forward to this one for a while. My demon fusion app is ready.
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I recently became really interested in this game. I never liked the other SMT. The only thing I don't like is how battles look. I'm actually gonna get this one.
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I'll probably add a DLC section later. A few of it seems noteworthy anyway
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Where did everyone preorder from? The Amazon jacket looks pretty cool.
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Pre-order get. Now all I have to do is wait for that sexy Limited Edition to come out.
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I've had my eye on this for a while. What kind of RPG is it though? Is it strategy like Fire Emblem or Dungeon Crawler like Etrian Odyssey?
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You see pokemon? Pokemon is a copy of SMT, except the difficulty, the dark atmosphere, the multi-cultural compendium, and the path to choose (neutral, chaos, or law).
I summarized very roughly. I made a little writing on the "what is a Megaten" (Megaten is the nickname of the Megami Tensei franchise), but it's in french. |
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Sniff sniff, no European release date. Sniff sniff sniff.
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Pre-ordered for $34 even though I have never played a regular SMT game before, just Persona. I hope it is good.
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Where was it $34 dollars?
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Same here, it's 50 Canadian Dollars minimum, never seen below.
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Someday for sure. Soul Hackers will be coming out on September... Maybe January for SMT IV?
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Damn, I was about to go and buy Awakening when I found out this game would be coming out in two weeks!
Now I can't decide between these two... Please help me.
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I just discovered it.
"Future Shop will be having an E3 2013 promotion that grants you 3 games for $20 off (each). While E3 is going on, between June 10 and June 13, you will be able to pre-order three games of your choice" I see that they do not ship to France, so... no regrets. :P |
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Is there going to be a demo for this before it is released? I feel like I read somewhere that there was going to be a demo, but I'm not positive.
I recently picked up Persona 4, and I'm loving it. From what I gather about this series, it's quite similar (not surprising, given that Persona is a spin-off). I'm guessing SMT is more RPG, and less Simulator? In any event, the story sounds interesting, and it is using the Press Turn system, which I like. Still really wanna try it out first though.
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How did I miss this thread?
Day 0. So hype for this release.
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Pre-ordered the game yesterday.
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HHHHHNNNNNGGGGGGGGG i cant control it!
IM BUYING TWO GODDAMMIT
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I have it pre-ordered and am so excited, I can't wait. I've never played a SMT title before but a co-worker of mine is a huge fan of the series and has gotten me really interested in it.
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Probably neutral. But it can vary. I don't know how the choice will be shown. If it's like strange journey ("destroy everything / do what you want" chaos vs "brainless happy people" law), it will be Neutral.
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I'm going full chaos baby!
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Do you have to buy the limited edition 49.99 to get this game or will they also release the game only for regular price? I don't really want any of the art books or CDs, only the game and I can't find it for sale it itself anywhere.
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Because ill end up throwing it in my closet and after a year the trashcan. I never purchase limited editions or special editions. I just want the regular game to play. No need in my life for the other stuff.
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Is the gameplay like Etrain Odyssey or is it more akin to the Persona series? (in general, not counting mechanics and all that) The trailer seems to present the game as something more from Persona, without the social links.
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It's different from both, but if I had to pick a comparison, I'd say Persona. Persona is based off of SMT.
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Now if only I can remember my Amazon password to obsessively check on my order status.... T_____T; |
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SMT IV will be clearly accessible to the beginners of the Franchise. The Game over will not be as definitive as the other games, there will be a possibility to continue when you die. In the other games, you have to load your save.
Plus, if you die two times in a row, the difficulty will be lessen. More informations: Shin Megami Tensei IV Developers Talk Difficulty, Multiple Routes And DLC - Siliconera |
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Shin Megami Tensei IV-Fire Emblem Awakening Club Nintendo Deal - YouTube |
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How much of the game is based on combat? I hate most turn-based combat. (Unless it is grid-based).
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I don't care if a game is hard or easy preferably easy. I like easy more than hard so I can play that game without going crazy.
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That may be true, but it frustrates me when I want to play a few minutes, but end up rushing just to find a save point. It makes me dread going into dungeons, because I know it'll turn into an hours-long session just to get to the end of it. (Or the halfway-point if the developers are feeling generous, but some dungeons can be terribly long that it doesn't feel like much of a favour at all.)
If saving anywhere makes the game too easy, that's a fault on the developer's part, since games like Xenoblade have already proven that it can work without breaking the game.
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There is nothing at stake with "save anywhere". If you lose, there is no consequence. Takes away some of the tension/enjoyment.
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The good thing with portable games is you can put the system into standby mode, and just play later. That's why I prefer playing RPGs on handhelds.
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While normally, I don't mind save points, some of the more recent RPGs with them seem to eat up so much of my time that I just need to start over at a more opportune time, losing up to an hour of my work. (Sphere Dungeon in FFX, I'm looking at you) I don't mind save points on a DS game, (Standby Mode) but with my 3DS' declining battery life, I think the Save Anywhere feature is a welcomed addition. Even without the save anywhere feature, what's-his-face would still be able to drive you across the River Styx to the exact point you died, if you so chose.
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I haven't read much about the game, but is the save anywhere option a quicksave, that can only be loaded once, or does it act like a regular save (like Pokemon)?
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Okay, the deal on Club Nintendo has pretty much convinced me to get the game. I have two questions, though
1) Do the dungeons have randomly generated layouts? 2) If I switch the game to the easy mode (which, from what I gather, is available after dying a couple of times), could I switch it back later?
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Awesome, thanks.
...Game is now pre-ordered on Amazon. And thus the backlog of RPGs I have to play grows.
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If you die twice in a row you can change it to easy. You can only do this once though. Honestly, if you're looking for an easy game, I'd look elsewhere
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My order came in
But the first print box is a little damaged It isn't even a closed box though. Oh well, I have the game and will be playing it soon.
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VGP shipped the game the 11th. I'm from France so it will take some time, but canadian people should play it since the 12th/13th.
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I picked up my collectors edition yesterday! If you pre-order it from Game Stop you get a gold torso that has GS on the chest for Gamestop. X3 idk If thats for every GameStop. I'm happy! Anyways I died twice in the beginning to finish the tutorial and stuff but after that I keep dying I need help. Any tips? because I cant heal nor have any demons with me because I am still on the first quest. What do I do. D: Also I cant think of any cool names to name my character naming him a girl name would be awkward. O_O
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Hello everyone. I have a question.
Would any of you recommend this game to a mature(ish) 13 year old? While it is rated M for Mature in the US, isn't it rated either B or C in Japan? (although if it is C, I would most likely back off) I do know that there is blood. Are there multiple monsters with questionable designs, or is there just one? (that isn't as explicit as Mara) I would very much like to pick this game up for the $30 CN deal, but the rating is discouraging, even though most of the games are rated B (or C) in Japan. Thank you for your time!
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Because this is a question concerning the game's appropriateness, I really hope I'm not pushing boundaries with this post by featuring some of the more.... potentially offensive aspects of the game. I will attempt to use spoiler tags and the like to reduce any possible offending that could result. I have written this post with the assumption that the question was asked by a concerned parent, in which case, I feel they have a right to know just what exactly is in the game their kid wants. Again, I'm assuming you're a concerned parent. Otherwise, you're the first 13 year old that I've ever met that would actually avoid a game for being "inappropriate for your age". Not that there's anything wrong with that. If you are in fact that 13 year old, sorry about the usage of phrases such as "your child", "your kid" and so on. There is indeed vast pools of blood and the occasional severed head and what not, though many specific actions that lead to such things take place off screen. For example, you might see a dude on the ground with his head crushed in, but you don't actually SEE his head GET crushed in. At least, not all that often. Doesn't match the game's style for one. Most of the severe violence occurs off screen or in battles (with a few very rare exceptions). While there is a bit of gore and some of the attacks like shooting moves definitely show some demons exploding into massive sprays of blood, it's very cartoony and undetailed. It certainly isn't any worse than the Mortal Kombat series, which I played as a preteen and never had an issue, personally. Frankly, violence should be the least of your concerns with Shin Megami Tensei games. Aside from moderate gore (gore isn't violence), what you DO need to worry about however, is the game's story and presentation. If you feel your kid should have a strong religious grounding or you are concerned by things that depict a figure you might possibly worship in your home in a VERY unfavorable manner, then you may want to avoid this game. I'm afraid I can't be more detailed about that aspect or even which set of beliefs or figures I'm referring to. You see, discussion of religion is banned here and I must be very careful to only REFERENCE it in the context of the game's appropriateness for youngsters, nothing else, not gonna discuss it. If you are concerned about which figures are depicted less than favorably, the best and safest answer I can give you is "almost all of them from every major religion". This applies to ANY game with Shin Megami Tensei in the title (devil survivor, persona, etc), some more so than others. Any nudity featured in the game is generally done fairly tastefully and over all, rather abstract. That said, there is a couple cases where one may be concerned, but none of them exceed a PG-13 level and the vast majority of them are very difficult to attach any manner of sexual connotation to. I'll detail that below. If I were to rate each piece individually, using the rating system in films (it's more concise), I would do so as follows: Violence (not to be confused with gore, violence is the precursor to gore, the act itself, not the result) levels themselves are on par with a PG-13 movie. Very few horrific actions are animated or directly shown. Gore (not to be confused with violence, gore is the result of violence, not the act of it) comes close to the R level, but a clever company could probably argue a ratings board down to PG-13 if they threw a decent amount of money at them. Along the lines of something you might see on the floor of in an empty hallway in a Predator movie. Nudity and questionable designs is mostly on par with a PG-13 movie (Mara's probably the worst imo). You will see breasts, but they won't be too heavily detailed or very, very, very, briefly featured or will be grotesquely non-sexual (yet mythologically appropriate) in every manner, I can think of one demon that is a horrific snake like creature with 6 mammary glands that could hardly be called breasts. Here is an image of the demon I mentioned. I put it in spoiler tags just in case, but really I'd equate it to looking at a cow's udder. Disclaimer: That said, if you are at all concerned about seeing an incredibly abstract nipple, consider not clicking the show spoiler button. I don't believe this breaks any rules, on the "cow's udder" grounds as well as the fact that it's one of THE most powerful (and thus popular) demons from the game this entire thread is about, but I'd like to be careful regardless. That and the guy running around with Mara profile picture, which surely has a higher potential to be considered "offensive".
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It's one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse: The Black Rider (Famine). Traditionnally the second hardest, the hardest one being Pale Rider (Death).
Black Rider - Megami Tensei Wiki: a Demonic Compendium of your True Self
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I think I fell in love with this game after the Minotaur battle.
Now THAT's the sort of high-stakes boss battle that I've come to expect from this series. Tokyo has been real blast so far as well!
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Tokyo is a complete mind **** the more regions you get to.
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Megaten player since Nocturne?
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Technically since Digital Devil Saga
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Excellent episode to begin with. ^^
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Damn my luck. I want to get this game and get in on the promotional offer. Too bad I won't have the $$ until Thursday. I hope I can still find a copy.
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I've made it to Shinjuku. The random battles with Macabres are murdering me because of their Blight skill, which does a surprisingly insane amount of damage to my party. (I still haven't finished the "Dance of the Dead" quest for the same reason.) Are there any demons or armor that nullify or resist skills like Blight?
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Hey guys I'm new to the forum and will be purchasing a 3ds sometime this week. My question is should I get this? I LOVE jrpg 's and I'll be picking up Fire Emblem BUT I just don't think i'll like dungeon crawlers... they don't seem "fun" to me. I've never played a SMT game so no persona no devil survivor.
Is there any game like SMT4 on the DS? maybe I could try it out before I make the purchase. Thanks guys |
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If by dungeon crawler you mean Etrian Odyssey or Class of Heroes, SMT IV has a much greater 3D world to explore than those games. I'm a huge fan of the Persona series and I took a risk getting this thinking I wouldn't like it. I was so wrong. It's a great game and if you like Fire Emblem I don't see why you wouldn't like this game. I haven't beaten SMT IV yet, but so far the story is great and the gameplay is so great (stops being incredibly difficult like it is at the beginning which is good too). I would give this game a 9-9.5 the only thing holding it back is that it's not entirely 3D. I don't think you can compare the SMT series with anything other than the SMT series and its spinoff series.
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Is the strategy guide bundled with this game accurate enough? I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
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The strategy guide that's bundled with the game was only for the Limited Edition. Unless your stores still have some, it won't be bundled with future boxes. Anyway, yeah. It's accurate enough
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I saw this at Best Buy. I picked it up and it looked so pretty. But I put it back. I'm still very undecided about this game. LOL
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just beat this game. didn't take me as long as soul hackers, but i also chose a really lame route with an ending i wasn't exactly expecting.. it's too bad there aren't spoiler free route guides, because otherwise i would have avoided this one. still a great game. anyone know what the four lights at the top of the new game+ file are for?
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oh nice that it keeps track of that.
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Defeated the boss at Ikebukuro and I have to say,
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Got this game today and I must say, I'm glad I picked it up. I was craving a 3ds rpg and this satisfied my needs. It's the second SMT i've ever had (the first was devil survior for DS). The guide book it came with has so much stuff and I don't even know where to start.
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Hey guys, i got this game a couple days ago and i need.. sort of help? More like advice but anyways... my Angel just transformed into an Archangel and lost a LOT of MP. i need another healer but cant decide whether to get a Pixie or just get another angel... help? im level 14. what 2 demons do i need to fuse to make a pixie?
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Right... stats are important, but your skills are even more so. Though to be safe, I stick with single target skills. So Agi, Bufu, Zan, and Zio. Your job is to make sure all four are in your party somehow. Not every opponent will come with a weakness, but most will.
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i kept most of my magic attacks multiple enemies, but i also had almost all the elements spread across my party, so.. if one was weak to one, but the other would reflect/null, i'd just physical them until death then magic. what i'm saying is: i never really got screwed over by having almost all of my attacks aimed at an entire enemy party.
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I'm personally not a fan of throwing away Press Turns. Most encounters don't have interesting resistances, but most of the time, having two or three demons with two or three elemental spells should suffice at destroying most enemy encounters.
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what exactly makes the almighty speels so good for aoe spells? des no monster have a resistance to it or something.
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almighty isn't the same as something like force. it doesn't really have an "element" to it and most demons aren't resistant to it, so likely it's going to hit and it will do a fair amount of damage.
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You also don't risk losing Press Turns using almighty attacks, which is my point.
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oooo. good to know. gonna be sure to have more of 'em on new game+.
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Im currently doing the rescue 3 VIPs mission and I checked the book that came with the game and it seems like Im almost done story-wise? Is Koga Suburo truly the last demon in the story, or does the main story progress farther than that, challenge quests aside.
Sorry If its a dumb question, Im new to the game and series.
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so how do I know if my ending was neutral, chaos, etc?
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Whoop, I somehow managed to get Neutral Route on my own during my first playthrough. Apparently I'm supposed to raise my rank so I'm one of the top 3 hunters, which I assume means I should do more sidequests, but I'm not so sure...
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Just get my 3DS! will grab this game soon! I heard this game is really hard but who cares..i love megaten series!
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I traded in Animal Crossing City Folk and Mario Kart Wii to Game Stop and got this game brand new without having to spend a cent. It was some promotion they were running. Anyway, I got Shin Megami Tensei and my 30 dollar E shop credit for Pokemon and I am a happy Camper.
I can't wait to play this. I've been on the fence about buying it since it came out but I couldn't bring myself to pay 50 dollars for it. Well problem solved now.
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Loving this game so far. Still pretty hard but not dying too often. Just healing up a lot. I bought a used copy of Persona 4 Golden recently from Gamespot, so I'll prolly play that one next.
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I really wish the map for Tokyo wasn't so hard to navigate. That turned me off from this game.
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Yeah, I can see that, PhoenixDown. It's really frustrating and kinda useless. Why would people only want to know the names of locations when they're directly next to them? Especially when the dungeon maps are significantly more useful.
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I have started playing this game again after the recent Persona announcements.
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