As of now, the only first party games we know that are coming out for the rest of the year are Smash and Tomodachi Collection. Other than that it's pretty barren looking. There are a couple other third party games that fill in the gaps some, but no real heavy hitters planed for the last quarter of the year like the 3DS had for the last few years.

We already got our 2D AND 3D Mario games, Mario Kart, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and Zelda. We may get another iteration or two of some of these franchises, plus a few middle tier franchises, but there doesn't seem to be much left in the tank.

While I think a few surprise games will be announced at E3 to fill in the winter lineup, it feels a lot like we are nearing the end of the 3DS's lifecycle.

Thoughts?

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Maybe the 3ds has become dependent of E3 coming out with their games. Or so I've been seeing it that way.

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We've already got our heavy hitters for sure, so I really don't see much else in store for the 3DS besides newer iterations of what we've had. It's been what, 3 years?

^oh snap, dat fire

Between the thin release schedule for the rest of the year and the fact that this release schedule includes unlikely localizations like Tomodachi Life (and supposedly a Band Bros P localization is being worked on), it seems very much like we're looking at a 2010-2011 Wii situation with the 3DS. Which is concerning. If we really are looking at the end of the system's life, while it has a good number of really solid titles, it would have been underwhelming as a whole after the mammoth that was the DS, in my opinion.

My post is to stay until the forum dies!

You think production of Wii U games is any way affecting 3DS game development? It kinda assumes there's some sort of equilibrium between Wii U game development and 3DS game development, and that focus on one leads to the decline of the other though.

I believe it does. Which is why Iwata is making the push towards having a unified development process in the future.

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I think more titles will be announced at E3. It would be weird if the console did not get at least one more set of Pokemon games.

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Really logi?

I hope not because the 3DS still has a lot more going for it. I wouldn't worry about the foggy late year schedule because LBW was revealed in April 2013 and released later that year.

Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney, Bravely Second, and Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth are all coming.

Localizations that I'm still waiting for:
Dragon Quest VII
Fantasy Life
Yokai Watch
Time Travelers (lol)

Some possible games on the pipeline:
Majora's Mask 3D (inevitable)
Pokemon Z (or X2/Y2) (this one is actually a given)
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire Remake (also a given)
Fire Emblem: Awakening Sequel
Pokemon Ranger Sequel
Pokemon Conquest Sequel
Also other installments to the Mario & Luigi, Zelda, Kirby franchises.

Only in your dreams:
Dragon Quest XI
Advance Wars
2D Metroid
Trauma Center
The World Ends with You Sequel
Radiant Historia Sequel

^^^If the 3DS were to retire before we got at least some of those, I'd eat it.

There should be a new console announcement in 2015 with a release in 2016 if the 5/6 year schedule has anything to go by.

I think you are being very optimistic regarding the MM and Pokemon remakes. With the exception of a potential X/Y sequel or a new Zelda, none of the other games you listed feel like heavy hitters to me.

We will know more at E3 obviously, but there is a clear lack "big" games planned for release after Smash.

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Pokemon remakes and MM are pretty safe bets IMO.

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Christ, logi! Stop it!

3ds isn't in it's final days, it's just starting to slow down a bit after the 2013 blow out to more stable levels gamewise (Although I do desire to see some surprises at e3/directs for this year).

Now financially, that's another story, with the 3ds in decline YOY sales wise from 2012-2013 (Even considering both MH4 and Pokemon along with AC in NA and other games) and it being down by 50% this year YOY in such key regions as Japan, the 3ds does seem to have peaked fairly early. I won't call myself a foreseer, but I see the decline continuing.

Personally I'm satisfied with my 3ds, even if I want to see more games on it. And comparing the 3ds to the ds isn't fair considering both were at different times economically and chronologically.

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Well if we include the DS and DSi brand, the DS only games have lasted about 9 or so years. I highly doubt the 3DS would die this early. Maybe in 2 years we'll get another system but for now, the 3DS is still alive.

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Boy, it has sure been awhile since we have had a topic like this....probably close to three years actually. I don't think it is in the final days yet, but it might be only two years left until we get the next handheld announced. We will still get at least one more pokemon game, mahbe one or two more zeldas, maybe mario, and then maybe the possibility of metroid, but that is seeming more likely for the wii u.

I think the 3DS still has two/three years left in it at least. With the Wii U not doing so great right now (unless Mario Kart and Smash change), and the 3DS doing fine in it's current spot. I don't think Nintendo's ready for a new handheld. I'd say a new handheld will be announced around 2016 at the earliest. But it's a bit hard to determine since the life span of Nintendo handhelds is all over the place. With the GB/DS having long life cycles due to multiple hardware iterations and mass popularity. While the GBA lasted around 4/5 years, which I think is probably the closest bet to the 3DS lifespan, maybe a year or two longer.

As for the games I think the 3DS has had a pretty good year so far. Not as good as last years, but still nice. We've gotten at least one first party game a month, in addition to some eShop and 3rd party games. With Tomodachi and Smash, Summer is following the same pattern. So it's just the later half of the year, which I imagine whatever's announced at E3 will cover.

Well, Nintendo did go on a roll with their releases so it's natural that it'd slow down at some point. Still, 3 years is too little for any console's or handhled's life time. Another 2 years at least would be a safe bet.
As for the 3DS sales, it's sold very well in the past, indicating that most people that wanted one, probably already have it. So again, it's natural that the sales would go down. Let's also consider how the finanacial situation around the globe is worse(much worse in some cases, like my country) compared to the start of the previous generation so that limits the buying power of gamers and parents which will show on the sales.

While I don't think it's in it's final days right now, I do expect to see the 3DS successor at least be announced at E3 2015.

If they do announce a successor, it would be nice if it was BC with the 3ds and the DS.

3DS I see happening, DS I do not, though it would be a nice surprise and it would make me a day one buyer.

And then they announced gen 3 remakes

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I will take full credit for this announcement. Obviously Nintendo read this thread and decided to show us something to give us some hope.

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Told y'all ^^

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You didn't even believe that the pokemon ruby/sapphire remakes were coming.

#falseprophet

After hearing the pokemon annoucement this morning that I think the 3DS has bout like 2-3 years left of life span.

At least there's some games coming out for the 3DS this year.

Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire Remake
Super Smash Bros 4
Tomadachi Life
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright:Ace Attorney
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call

Logi pls you don't deserve the credit.

It's hilarious that this happened right on cue for a game this year, considering only 2 days ago the schedule was bleaker.

O' Ye with little faith

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Uh huh. Man I wish I had the ability to take credit for false predictions like you can.

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I hope not. I mean we still have smash and now ruby and saphire(which ik were announced like the day after this thread was made, lol). I hope we have more great games too though. They won't announce a new system, home or portable (or a combination of the two?) until at least E3 2015 so. But I can't think of any other games that would come out...

I hope there are a few more at least

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They've got problems with the Wii U, so they're mainly working on titles for that. Every console or handheld Nintendo releases these days, gets banged by people saying, "Wii is DOOMED!" But that didn't happen.

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Extremely doubt it. 3DS has a lot of life, and developers are still heavily interested in the platform and its ability to push games.

Nintendo might still have some first-party options up its sleeves too. Remember, we haven't seen a few first-party titles on the 3DS, namely Metroid, Golden Sun, F-Zero, and a new Star Fox. Nintendo might even blow your mind at this year's e3 with something unexpected for the 3DS and give it an all-new reason to love again.

Remember, the 3DS can still easily be updated to include some new in-system applications, features, or even a better Miiverse (e.g. Friend Requests, messaging, etc).

I wouldn't doubt the 3DS just yet. It's Nintendo's pride and joy at the moment, and they will not let it die out yet.

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Nintendo won't make new consoles until we are satisfied with the old ones. 3DS has a lot of life in it and it would be stupid to end its lifecycle fast. even the original DS isn't discontinued yet and somehow its still selling.

Pffffft

Even if it was in its final days and a new handheld was around the corner, I have a giant backlog of games for the ds and 3ds that will keep me occupied for the next five years >_>

No way the 3DS is going anywhere. This year has potential to be the best year it has had so far considering we're getting a new Pokemon title(s) as well as Smash Bros. No I think don't think the 3DS is going anywhere anytime soon (and I refuse to give up on the chance on a 3DS metroid game!)

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We're getting pokemon remakes and a smash port. Not anywhere close to the great games of the past couple years, imo.

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i dont think this year will be better than last year for the 3ds, cause last year fire emblem awakening, animal crossing new leaf and pokemon xy were all released last year and they were probably my 3 favourite games for the 3ds
but saying that i dont think the 3ds is near the end of its life

this year it looks like they are focusing more on the wii u, trying to get more wii us sold

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all of this in 2014. if this ain't enough for you, then yes its DOOMED

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You're gonna have to list those great heavy-hitting Q3/4 2012 games there logi, because Paper Mario: Sticker Star isn't exactly what I'd call a face-melting holiday blockbuster compared with Pokemon and the first handheld Smash Bros. New Super Mario Bros. 2 in August sold very well, but even with it, software sales are gonna go against you.

And Smash isn't a port, it's even releasing before the Wii U game.

That said, I understand the overall point of the thread. "Days," even as a gigantic hyperbole, is pushing it but if the finish line is a successor and if Nintendo is smart then next year is its final stretch.

People's impression of technology is moving faster than before with powerful phones and tablets releasing every year, and a 240p screen is starting to look exceedingly out of place in 2014. This generation can't last as long as the last, it'll be five years old in Feb./Mar. 2016 and that's a perfectly good cycle. It's longer than the GBA's and that wasn't competing with Apple and Google.

So, yes, bring on the successor at the end of 2015, or beginning of 2016 at the latest.

I think 2016 would be a good year to release the 3DS successor. 5 year gap isn't bad. 3DS peaked software-wise in 2013 and it seems from here on third-parties will carry most of the weight while the majority of nintendo first-party focus on the Wii u for the next 2 years. Nintendo will still make games for the handheld, but from here on it's in the backseat.

We have a brand new IP coming next year (Codename Steam).

I don't think we'll see a 3DS successor until 2017 tbh.

Launching a new system is expensive and Nintendo has taken some losses these past few years on the Wii U.

I think there will be a slowdown in games during the rest of 2014, but then it will get back on track in 2015.

I personally believe the 3DS is just only approaching halfway through its life-cycle. With all the new and great games that have so far been released on it--and with all the ones yet to come--I'm sure the 3DS's life-cycle will not pan out until 2020, at the very earliest.

I really don't think Nintendo can afford to wait 3 more years to release a successor. Plus what possible games can they release over the next three years? 3DS is in dire need of third party support, which it likely isn't going to get based on the trend of the last couple of years.

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Not sure why you are limiting it to Q3/Q4. Kid Icarus Uprising is the best Nintendo game in the last 5 years. Not to mention the strong third party support in 2012 with RER, along with other games.

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What third party support is it in "dire" need of?

We're going to at least get another pokemon game (Z or X2Y2 whatever) for 2015. The 3DS (early days) and the Wii U have hurt Nintendo's profits. A new hardware release would be yet another costly enterprise when the 3DS has virtually no competition (Vita lol) in the dedicated handheld space.

Nintendo needs another "third pillar", I'll leave it at that.

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I know Nintendo briefly mention some "Quality of Life" business during their last investor's meeting.

It has nothing to do with games apparently.

I'm talking more in terms of a handheld system, they should be going for the PS/Xbox crowd because casuals are few and far between and after the Vita I'm not sure Sony will continue with the handheld business.

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Sony tried to capture the PS/Xbox crowd with the PSV and they failed miserably. I doubt Nintendo could do much better.

The dedicated handheld space isn't what it used to be.

It's currently looking to be in better shape than the console market. Nintendo will be forced to go big or risk another failure. The kids of day play on their smartphones, kids 10 years ago played on the PSP and GBA, twenty years prior it was just Game Boy. The console and handheld industry isn't doing as well as it usually does, we see more "PC master race" and smartphone app users than console gamers these days, it doesn't help we bicker among ourselves more than nearly any other industry.

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It's hard to believe that third parties aren't looking at the 3DS installed base (over 40 million) with some interest at this point.

We'll always have Rodea the Sky Soldier and King of Pirates to look forward to.

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They're looking at that larger smart phone install base!

Those are ancient, I thought they would be cancelled by now.

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Good to see I'm not the only one who remembers those games announcements.
They always cancel/delay the more ambitious 3ds games. Megaman, Ironfall, Rodea: sky soldier, Conduit(released on smartphones, instead), Cult county(also released on smartphones, instead) and now those two.

Sad but true. I recently read that the developer of Rodea the Sky Soldier has renewed the trademark for the title, giving new hope that the game will come out. I wouldn't be surprised if the developer has been redeveloping the Wii version for the Wii U.

As for King of Pirates, it was announced last year that it was supposed to come out this year. Hopefully this rings true.

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Don't forget that at one point it was announced that Sega Dreamcast games were going to be re-released on the 3DS, with Seaman as the first title. So maybe we may still see them.

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I don't think that was ever announced, but was a general statement from some japanese newspaper that got reported by andrisang.

Remember that Seaman 2 rumor? That was a dream, long ago...

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Good lord. I hope. But I think they'll just get lazy and cheat us out of these games again. Then they'll probably give us yet another lazily made, stereotypically uninspired dungeon crawler, jrpg or puzzle game to "compensate" because thats what devs always do to Nintendo handhelds.

Feel lik it came out yesterday :0 I remember buying it just for Luigi mansion 2

Hmmmmmmm...I wouldn't go as far as saying that the 3DS will DIE but I do understand what you mean, with smartphones and tablets being go to items for games nowadays its almost a no brianer would you rather carry around a clunky piece of plastic with the technology of 2004 with a cool little 3D trick OR just game on what most people take with them everywhere to begin with at the same time the only advantage Nintendo seems to have is with the games, you cant find Mario or Zelda on a smartphone (at least not the current versions of it, we have emulators on our phone to play DS and GBA and NES games so we dont have to go out and buy the systems) so thats all Nintendo has anymore nobody wants "innovation" with some huge tablet they need to play a game on the Wii U they want Affordability (like cheap apps) and games that fit their free time. Unfortunately (in my opinion) if Nintendo cant find a way to attract the newer audiences with something smart touch related (and no i don't mean the crap lower touch screen you need with the stylist of an old 90s GPS) then Nintendo could end up like Sega and Capcom and although i would be very sad, it would just prove that a new forum of tech has taken over and that's not always a bad thing for exsample my little brother doesnt even touch his 3DS he tells me "oh that old thing". Nintendo Needs a new aprouch and i think the Fan-base (and fanboys) need to admit that. ( don't give me the whole speal about how Mario Kart 8 sold bla bla units of the Wii U, that's a single game) but yes 3DS may very well fade into obscurity

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It's still powerful enough for more than we've seen so far so don't write optimism off as fanboy fare, Nintendo promised Unity engine would be ported later this year, though they were still pretty vague on that.

btw have you tried the wii u touch screen? How would you rate that, considering it was design for fingers? It seemed O.K. with the 10 seconds I got to try it but would like to hear someone elses opinion

To throw in my two cents, I think Nintendo has directed the majority of their attention towards the Wii U considering its poor sales, in fact I've heard from numerous sources that before Mario Kart 8 "there [was] no reason to buy a Wii U", while on the 3DS the new pokemon games alone were enough to have an entirely new version of the device itself made (maybe not the only reason, but the fact that they came out on the same day as (what is now) the best selling 3DS game to date is not just by chance). I think Nintendo had, and still has, all these great and wonderful ideas for the 3DS but just hasn't had the time to dedicate at the moment. We have to remember Nintendo has to worry about tomorrow as well as today, if all their great ideas are turned into games for the current platforms then they will simply be out of any great ideas for the future.

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The 3DS has enough software to keep it high in sales and with Smash and Pokemon coming soon I believe Nintendo has secured the handheld area and now shifts focus to the home area, the WiiU. I believe this is the right move to do. I expect more experimental projects like SubWars for the 3DS from now on, as it is uncontested and less full fledged games. That doesn't mean that there aren't any good 3DS games on the line. Nintendo never disappoints when it comes to software.

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In the post I quoted, you wrote:
I thought you were talking about the second half of the year by only listing those two. And in your original post:
If you're talking about the first half of the year as well, sales numbers will still disagree with you. Kid Icarus: Uprising, Resident Evil Revelations, and Mario Tennis Open will end up selling less as a whole than Bravely Default (in North America), Yoshi's New Island, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Mario Golf World Tour, Tomodachi Life, Disney Magical World, and Mario Party Island Tour (in Europe).

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But it's not in high sales. In the US and Japan it's back to 2011 numbers already and well behind the PSP at the same point in time in the US at least. 2012 was its hardware peak in Japan and flat with 2013 in the US, in spite of the much stronger line up in 2013. Not sure about Europe.

Software is way up of course, but the hardware is dying, logi is right about that. Pokemon and Monster Hunter will do very little to push hardware because that audience is already on the system. Yokai Watch in Japan might be keeping it from slipping further, and Yokai Watch 2 will be a surefire hit, but considering the first one is already over a million, how many Yokai Watch fans who don't have a 3DS are left? The fanbase might grow and along with it give it a little bit of a push, but that's it.

Now a non-2DS hardware revision could help it, especially in Japan, seeing as they only got the XL (back in Summer 2012) and a single price cut (August 2011). It's time.

I don't want to turn this into a sales numbers thread, but 3DS hardware numbers are way down this year. My point is that KIU and RER and both much better games than anything released so far this year. The reason I only mention Pokemon and smash is because none of the other games are really considered heavy hitters, and bdff was trash. It just so happens both are coming later this year. My op was written before we knew both would be q4 games, so maybe that why it looks like I was only talking about the fall and winter lineup.

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Persona Q should help out a bit as well.

It does indeed seem the 3DS is losing sales momentum. Nintendo is likely examining at the Smartphone market to look at the latest trends regarding game development (what coding is being used, what online features they have, etc.) in hopes that their next handheld can easily accommodate such games (one thing the PS Vita has been better able to do than the 3DS). When they do announce a new handheld, they'll most likely want to make it as future-friendly as possible. It would therefore make sense for them to release a new device whenever the next major evolution in smartphone development occurs. That is, of course, if Nintendo wishes to be more directly competitive with its biggest threat on the handheld front that is.

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It's still selling okay, but it's clear that it's beginning to slow down. And for software we aren't going to have another 2013. So again I'd say 2016 would be a good year, but 2015 would be fine as long as it's no more than $199.99 and has a decent launch line up.

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I don't think so. We probably have another good 2-3 years before we see the next handheld.

Nintendo is not looking to have to create an install base again after just getting the 3ds where they want it not too long ago.

I'm actually fairly happy with the software situation, the indie eshop games are some of my favorites though and we have had plenty of those.

If they want to release their next system when its predecessor is almost completely dead then yes they should. Look at how well that worked out for the Vita and the Wii U.

Logi is right on this: hardware sales are going down the drain. Those exact same sales numbers weren't acceptable in 2011 and pushed Nintendo to drastically slash the price within a few months. Now with those numbers coupled with the fact that it's trending downwards, they can't just ride it out and then expect to launch a healthy successor. You launch a successor when your product is still fresh in the mind of consumers, not when it's dead and buried.

I can see them being able to come up with short-term strategies (price cut, new model, promotions, new software etc.) to stop the bleeding until fall 2015. Just because the 3DS was very successful at one point doesn't mean things are all good. There's this image stuck in the minds of some people that 3DS's are still flying off the shelves. I even remember Iwata saying, at the height of the 3DS's popularity in the West, that its sales in those regions were not satisfactory.

Note: I'm very happy with the software situation, I wish the 3DS were flying off the shelves, it deserves it.

One thing Nintendo should do in order to stimulate sales is drop the price of the 3DS XL, especially as the original 3DS becomes increasingly harder to come by. After all, part of the reason the DS Lite sold so well was that it was priced at $130. I know Nintendo has the 2DS in that range but I feel most games regard that version the same way Lego enthusiasts regard Duplo.

With that said, it is unfortunate to read about the low amount of retail titles coming out for the 3DS. While indie titles are nice, they are rarely broad in scope and seldom make full use of the system's graphical capabilities.

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I think the 3DS still has a lot of life. Yokai Watch is selling extremely well right now in Japan, and Yokai Watch 2 has already been announced. I imagine those games will eventually transfer over to North America and Europe at the right time.

Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate is releasing soon enough worldwide, and that's going to give the 3DS huge sales numbers. Not only that, but tons of indie titles are continually releasing on the 3DS.

And of course, Super Smash Bros on 3DS is coming in October, more Pokemon is right around the corner, Miyamoto is hinting at more Zelda for the 3DS, and I wouldn't doubt that a 2.5D Metroid will come to the 3DS in the next year or two. And never doubt Nintendo's ability to churn out more Mario games, because it'll happen.

Code Name STEAM also looks really interesting, and I'm sure there are many more original titles from both first and third-party that will continue to give the handheld life for at least a couple more years. The 3DS is strong, so I don't think there is any reason to worry.

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that seems like the legit thing todo i mean ive heard that the 3DS is the #1 best selling console worldwide right now, even ahead of xbox one and PS4 its kicking butt right now

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That's why we have project steam and 2 more pokemon titles.

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Well yeah it came out a couple years before both systems.

I think that in december 2014, a month after Pokemon comes out, the 3DS will become instantly dead and obsolete. They will announce a 3DS game adaptor for the Wii U, so we can still play its games using the GamePad. Then, they will activate a feature that will make all of our 3DS consoles explode.

After that, they will announce a new handheld that will be called the "DS U", which will be the true successor to the DS, with...

• No 3D whatsoever (because there's only two people in this world who give a **** about the 3D, me being included)
• Graphical power between PSV and PS4
• Account-tied eShop purchases with a web portal for computers, smartphones, etc.
• 3DS and DS backward compatibility
• Games from every consoles that were on the Wii, 3DS and Wii U virtual consoles so far, but add GameCube (unless the Wii U actually does GC VC) and Wii to the mix.
• LTE network connectivity
• Official support for SDXC cards
• Built-in NFC chip for Amiibo
• Two circle pads with a surface that allows better gripping
• 1920x1080 pixels resolution for the top screen (5") and 1440x1080 for the bottom one (same height).
• Almost every game to have download play for local multiplayer
• Almost every game to have a shareable demo for other DS U handhelds
• Unity and Unreal Engine 4 compatibility
• A self-publishing service for indie developers, like on the Wii U
• New Metroid and F-Zero games
• And most of all... Nintendo will have pushed more devs/pubs to make more games for it!

Code Name S.T.E.A.M. will be made for the DS U instead of the 3DS.

One thing we have to consider is that Nintendo is really good about releasing a next-gen product but not killing off the old one. Look at the original DS released in 2004. Nintendo continued to supply titles throughout 2005 (pokemon emerald) and even through 2006 (the port of Mother 3) for the GBA.

And again, look at the 3DS. Nintendo produced pokemon black 2/white 2 for the original DS/DSi and it released 20 months AFTER the 3DS had already launched, almost two years! What is more interesting is the game was pretty much a reskin of the original titles with a different plot. Nintendo could have easily pushed the game out much sooner if they had wanted. So of course someday we will get a 3DS successor, but by no means will the 3DS instantly lose support from the big N (although I feel the Wii U could possibly suffer such fate).

As to what we can expect to see in terms of the device itself, there are a few staples I think we can expect. First, of course it will have a HD display. I don't think we'll see a 1080p one but 720p for sure. The touch screen isn't going away but if they push for a "media" device much like the vita it will likely expand to the top screen as well. Of course the big mystery is will we keep the 3D. Personally, I think we will for at least one more of Nintendo's handhelds, but if it doesn't catch on enough after that it will be gone from the next device.

I speak for many when I say that one of the best choices Nintendo has made on handhelds is backwards compatibility. Especially considering (unlike the 3DS which cannot currently read and play original DS games from the SD card) how much Nintendo has pushed digital distribution, we will be able to purchase our favorite 3DS titles straight from the E-shop without the need of having a physical cartridge slot on the device itself (but we will probably have one anyway).

The handhelds have always been released in between the home consoles, an awkward stage where the home console is already out and there are limited ways to have the new handheld integrate with it, but then the new home console comes out and now the handheld is a bit dated and hard to integrate with the new one as well. With the 3DS and Wii U having so much difficulty just living happily together with one another (similar to how the Vita & PS3/PS4 are, yet the Vita was released in between the two as well so I have no idea how that worked out so well) I will not be surprised if Nintendo holds out on the new handheld for a few more years to wait and launch both a new handheld & a new home console at once.

And of course the end all be all fact, as long as Nintendo is making money off the 3DS, they will continue making games for it.

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That Dreamcast thing someone mentioned a page back?

Nope, he didn't say anything specific about and the interview is somewhat new. He just said there are many "ideas"...
I know it's not much but still better than nothing. Also I always trust Miyamoto.

By the way, Nintendo said they weren't gonna abandon 3D with their new handheld.

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Is there a new handheld coming out?

No, of course not. It's still a bit early for that.

43 million sales and the 3DS is dying? No if any handheld is doomed it's the PS Vita. The 3DS has had the smash hit releases now there is a pause whilst the indie titles and less known 3rd party developers put out games on the system. The DS sold over 150 million units, I think Nintendo will try to match that with that with the 3DS and 2DS. And they on target to doing so. With this many units sold there will be games for years to come.

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Well according to the NPD the 3DS sold about 150,000 units in June last month, which is down from June 2013's 225,000.

I agree. I don't think they can, in this day and age of technology, develop two systems with the efficiency their shareholders will demand and will have to pursue the Apple/iOS model with one OS and multiple screen sizes that Iwata recently mentioned in an interview.

That probably means supporting the Wii U as long as they have to to maintain their company reputation, but no longer.

Of course the iPhone came out three years before the iPad so they could release the handheld version first but the tech analysts would probably be able to figure out that it was just a first step.

Nobody here mentioned Fossil Fighters: Frontier?! I'm buyin' that 3DS title day one!!

When it comes to power relative to the competition as a topic for why the Nintendo 3DS is supposedly in a snag, game-wise: the DS had so many games it was incredible; the Game Boy and its Pocket variant still killed it despite GameGear and Lynx.


What we're seeing are several causes to our symptom in discussion. Popular videogame news sources keep spouting smartphone gaming are the future (but not the still-mobile gaming portables), people are being raised/conditioned to become increasingly consumeristic, focusing on shallow things that are supposed to increase/maintain their desired "social status" (level of tech power/not owning baby toys, things pimple-faced nerds own)...add to that the global economy really does affect the way many choose which tech to buy in the first place (also how many devices they could invest in a given year) AND the 3DS has been selling so well for so long it comes closer to reaching market saturation.


Nintendo is a conservative company, thankfully. They are creative in using tech people would cry about being 'older' and stand by their mainline products for their whole effective lifespan. The games will still show up, and depending on the choices of popular third parties, so will certain other games (you can be sure small-time developers will remain).


I think E3 2017 will debut the successor to our 3DS for an early 2018 launch. It's all good.

Well Nintendo recently released the financial highlights for the past quarter. 3DS sales have definite been cut down and I'm uncertain what Nintendo plans to do with the thing in Japan. All in all, the 3DS has been pretty weak lately

Boy, Nintendo is doing pretty bad. They should go back to selling trading cards. The WiiU, their biggest chance out there, is not selling enough, not even with Mario Kart out. I am sure that 3DS is going down soon, and if they don't do something, Nintendo is too.

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Yeah I really don't think Nintendo can wait until 2018 to release the successor. I think 2016 would be the best year. Maybe this is a sign that they shouldn't release all their system sellers in the first two years.

Okay, fine, let me come here with my first serious post in this thread.

The issue is that Nintendo still doesn't have as much third-party support as the PS4, Xbox One and PC. That goes for the Wii U and Sony's PS Vita as well, but at least they get ports of the bigger games.

I mean, those three platforms probably have less first-party/exclusive games than any Nintendo platform. Heck, PC has nothing but third-party games.

Which is probably why the next gen systems will share similar OS and architecture. it seems the current Nintendo simply doesn't have the manpower to adequately manage two very different systems now. They also need to make a serious effort into getting third-parties like Ubisoft and EA back on board.

I guess their goal should be making next gen's console a little bit more serious, I know they have in mind adults and kids, but without hardcore gamers consoles wouldn't exist nowadays.
Just by being less casual I believe they can get really far, as history has shown us.

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Advance Wars 3DS! God I would love another AW game, those are easily some of my favorites.

As much as I like the idea of more development / titles for our Wii U's and think with the amount of 3DS's now sold Ninty should by focusing on AAA 3DS titles - one big hit on that is waaaay more revenue that a hit on a Wii U.

Is it the end now?

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Nah, there's still some life left.

2016 is shaping up to be another decent year for the 3DS, games-wise (and a great one if you are into RPGs). The eShop is even getting an ambitious racing title (Lifespeed) and a Pikachu detective game. What more could one want. ^^

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3dsforums on the other hand, rip

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Same, I've been putting some decently mad hours into my 3DS this year. Looking forward to Bravely 2, that'll probably keep me going for a little bit (read somewhere that they scrapped the Alchemist job, so that's a bummer). Been clocking recently on FF Explorers, the online multiplayer is going pretty strong, but the online trends over 'which accessory is the best' is a chore to keep up with because people keep changing their minds. Ah well. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a new Pok?mon entry sometime this year, or Z. I'd be happy with that, and it's still early. Might be the last year for us in North America and Europe, so why not enjoy it.

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Doubt it, considering the New Nintendo 3DS in general came out last year.