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Old 06-11-2014, 08:32 AM
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Default The Legend of Zelda Wii U: "I wanted tech demo grap.."*Bzzp* (Lazer eyed by Reggie.)

The Legend of Zelda Wii U was announced for the first time today in all it's glory. This is a thread dedicated to speculation, discussion, romance, and all things Zelda U.

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Aonuma recently teased that the protagonist in the teaser might not be Link: http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/10/ze...wii-u-trailer/

More info about the game, along with the full teaser can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmxvig1dXE




Keep in mind this slide, when speculating about Zelda U:





PLEASE BE EXCITED!
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:37 AM
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omg is that chrcter a grill?!?!?!?!
or is it zeldo?!?!?!?!

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Old 06-11-2014, 08:44 AM
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Regarding the, "Is Link a Girl" discussion. I would say this:

Speculation is surrounding the announcement of Zelda U concerning the gender of the protaganist shown in the trailer. (For the record, I believe that it's just a less masculine male Link) Many people have speculated that this is a new female hero or zelda as the protaganist. It seems like the overwhelming majority of people are in favor of this idea, and actually clamoring for this link to actually be female. My question to those people is: why?

I am by no means opposed to female leads in games. Not one bit. Samus Aran is my favorite all time game character for crying out loud. But changing Link to a female variant just seems like a cry for attention. I for one, really enjoy playing as this young coming of age boy going on a grand adventure in Zelda. Some of you may say: "Why not a coming of age girl?". Here's the thing, Link is a character that I actually like playing as. He's cool, and I (as cheesy as it may sound) have become connected to playing with him. The whole: "Link is an avatar for the character" argument is bull****. Link has never offered any sort of customization, and has shown more and more emotion and personility in each succesive installment. I like that Link, I like playing as link. Link has become a character that I am immensely fond of. Not just some robot that can be swapped out at any time.

If an outrcy to change Samus Aran to a man rang out from the gaming community, it would be scoffed at, and put down. I would laugh and scoff at it. No one's asking for that. In many ways it's the same exact scenario. Character in long established franchise that's known for being mute and devoid of emotion given a gender swap. Now I know that this analogy is not bulletproof, as changing from a female to a man furthers the inequality of male to female protaganists rather than balances it, but I think the basic idea is valid.

Look I understand that females are underepresented in games. It's a crime, and I'm fully behind more females. But let's not just change a longstanding character's gender just so that equality can be reached. Give Zelda or Sheik their own awesome game, make a new IP with a strong female character, for the love of God give me another Metroid. Just don't start making male characters in well established franchises female. I mean, what's next, Marioella?
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:48 AM
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Aonuma suggested earlier that the character in the trailer might not be Link.

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Old 06-11-2014, 08:53 AM
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Aonuma suggested earlier that the character in the trailer might not be Link.

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I already added that in the op.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:59 AM
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Yeah I misread your previous post.
Old 06-11-2014, 09:02 AM
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That's quite an androgynous-looking Link.

I have no complaints, I like this new look more than that tech demo. It's beautiful and nicely vibrant with all the colours and details.
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That's quite an androgynous-looking Link.
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I want to see more. It's wet my appetite and I want to see more.
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I won't mind if it's not Link, but it could just be Aonuma cracking jokes based on the rampant speculation he's probably seen.
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Except if it's not Link. It's not changing the character's gender. It might be Link's offspring or a sibling.

The Samus analogy doesn't work because male protagonists are the vast majority in video games. Taking one of the few female characters to add it to a pool that's already overflowing with dudes isn't the same as the reverse situation.

Especially notable when developers still continue to actively exclude women in games that are supposed to customizable like Ubisoft in Assassin's Creed Unity for example. (When one of the most famous assassins of the French Revolution was a woman.)
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This E3 from Nintendo was pretty badass and that's coming from me a Sony fanboy.

I'm stoked for the new Zelda game and I look forward to It.

I'm proud to say that my body is ready.
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I love the art style they went with. Actually makes me feel like I want to explore that world. The realistic looks always feel dull to me.
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Even if that's not Link, it's plenty of possible that Link will still be in the game and playable. There can be multiple playable characters in a game.
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Except if it's not Link. It's not changing the character's gender. It might be Link's offspring or a sibling.

The Samus analogy doesn't work because male protagonists are the vast majority in video games. Taking one of the few female characters to add it to a pool that's already overflowing with dudes isn't the same as the reverse situation.

Especially notable when developers still continue to actively exclude women in games that are supposed to customizable like Ubisoft in Assassin's Creed Unity for example. (When one of the most famous assassins of the French Revolution was a woman.)
I noted your exact argument in the post you quoted. Almost word for word. I understood the analogy was not perfect for the exact reason you mentioned.

I don't know why you bring up Unity in relation to Zelda. Link has never been customizable, and thus, I feel the comparison doesn't hold water.
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I haven't seen very much of the new Zelda game. Everything I look for links to the exact same video of an older asian guy's mugshot, and I can't skip around due to really bad internet.
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I noted your exact argument in the post you quoted. Almost word for word. I understood the analogy was not perfect for the exact reason you mentioned.

I don't know why you bring up Unity in relation to Zelda. Link has never been customizable, and thus, I feel the comparison doesn't hold water.
The point was that when it comes to representation in video games- women get ignored again and again.

Complaining about a male character being turned female sounds kinda tone deaf when male characters outnumber female ones by a vast majority. And the female characters we do get are often just there for sex appeal or a plot device to further the male protagonist.

Anyway "Link" is fine being a bug-eyed cartoon kid but make him a woman and suddenly it's an unacceptable change?
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The point was that when it comes to representation in video games- women get ignored again and again.

Complaining about a male character being turned female sounds kinda tone deaf when male characters outnumber female ones by a vast majority. And the female characters we do get are often just there for sex appeal or a plot device to further the male protagonist.

Anyway "Link" is fine being a bug-eyed cartoon kid but make him a woman and suddenly it's an unacceptable change?

Kin, did you read my post? You are repeating things that I have acknowledged and not at all talking about the points that I actually did make. I'm not just complaining about something, I have given my opinion, and supported it with various arguments. You simply disregarded all those points, and attacked what you thought I said.

Discussion is a two way street.
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Mensrea, just make your complaint about the character's gender being switched. Don't specify male-to-female and feminists can't ***** about it.
I felt like I did that by saying I wouldn't support gender swapping of female to male either. This wasn't specifically about male to female.
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Guys do you think that... this is sequel of Skyward Sword but somehow of Skyward Sword Link/Zelda's son/daughter is now on the land to explore?
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Guys, guys, guys...

This is totally Linkette saving Prince Zeldo.
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Kin, did you read my post? You are repeating things that I have acknowledged and not at all talking about the points that I actually did make. I'm not just complaining about something, I have given my opinion, and supported it with various arguments. You simply disregarded all those points, and attacked what you thought I said.

Discussion is a two way street.
What points did I miss exactly? You're getting defensive for no reason.

Link as a character has had several incarnations, appearances, and personalities that are each radically different from each other. Link is already quite androgynous and making this Link a girl wouldn't change the major canon aspects of the character.

That being said. If rumors are to be believed, then I still highly doubt that we are getting a female Link but an entirely new character that is female.
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We have heard talk about the game being multiplier, so maybe that has something to do with the whole Link confusion.
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Aonuma just stated that the character in the trailer was indeed Link, and not a female.
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bad character design then :P
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I won't mind if it's not Link, but it could just be Aonuma cracking jokes based on the rampant speculation he's probably seen.
Damn, I was right on the money. I don't believe it's bad character design more than people unable to see what gender a person is without various tropes attached.
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Aonuma just stated that the character in the trailer was indeed Link, and not a female.
My dreams of a lesbian Link will have to wait.
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Apparently what we saw wasn't prerendered or even just in-engine, but gameplay.

Intriguing.
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Apparently the Japanese miiverse post conflicts this, if someone could translate it. I don't want to go off heresay.
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Spoiler!

There's literally no way that all this^ is gameplay, it's gotta be scripted. Either Eiji told a half-truth or translation bunked up.

If that up there is gameplay, then Wii U is next-gen hardware. Which it's not. im being as negative as possible so someone will try and prove me wrong which would be good
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Mario Kart 8 has already proven that Nintendo knows what they're doing when it comes to minute details during gameplay. It's possible that it's actual gameplay, but they're using a debug menu to record the footage and change the camera to an angle that it wouldn't normally be during gameplay.

Then again, I'm also hearing reports that Aonuma's post on Japanese Miiverse says it's just running on Wii U hardware, but doesn't say anything about if it's actually gameplay. If someone could link me to hist post, I'll try to translate.
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Aonuma: Zelda Wii U Trailer Had Link In It, But Keep Talking About Female Characters

Good guy Aonuma listens to fans. <3
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Link still looks like a dude, even in that reveal video. I don't even know why people are getting their undergarments in a bunch. It doesn't really matter all that much, whether its a girl saving the world or a dude. They will play the same, use the same equipment, etc...
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Personally, since it isn't like Link being a guy ever mattered in terms of the story, it'd be cool if these games were like Pokemon and you could decide to be a male or a female character. We already decide the name, gender isn't too big of a stretch.
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