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Old 09-06-2015, 01:45 AM
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Might as well make a thread for US politics since the 2016 election is coming and there's already been a ton of news articles about it.

Party primaries will occur from February-June 2016 depending on your state.

Make sure you register to vote as soon as possible. In order to participate in a primary, some states require you to be registered with a party as early as October of the preceding year.



Democratic Candidates:
  • Hilary Clinton
  • Bernie Sanders
  • Lincoln Chafee
  • Martin O'Malley
  • Jim Webb


Republican Candidates:
  • Donald Trump
  • Ben Carson
  • Jeb Bush
  • Marco Rubio
  • Chris Christie
  • Ted Cruz
  • Mike Huckabee
  • Carly Fiorina
  • Jim Gilmore
  • Lindsey Graham
  • Scott Walker
  • Rand Paul
  • Rick Perry
  • John Kasich
  • George Pataki
  • Bobby Jindal
  • Rick Santorum
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(Bernie Sanders is my first choice so far.
Followed by Hilary Clinton.)
Old 09-17-2015, 12:31 AM
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if Trump will win, I guess the States are in big trouble
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Old 09-17-2015, 01:58 AM
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He hasn't even won the Republican nomination yet.

In a nightmare scenario where he did win the presidency, I think the effects would spread beyond the US.
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But seriously, Trump has made himself like a villain. At first he seemed like comic relief amongst politics, but now he's extremely antagonistic. I was never a political-minded person but now more than ever am I going to get involved and vote, hoping that there are more intelligent people than Trump supporters so that he doesn't actually get close to destroying everything....I mean becoming our leader.
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But seriously, Trump has made himself like a villain. At first he seemed like comic relief amongst politics, but now he's extremely antagonistic. I was never a political-minded person but now more than ever am I going to get involved and vote, hoping that there are more intelligent people than Trump supporters so that he doesn't actually get close to destroying everything....I mean becoming our leader.
Yeah, he pretty much is a Captain Planet villain at this point. It's like he's not even a real person. The other Republican candidates aren't much better.

The Democratic candidates all seem legit to me each having a different take on what to do but all reasonable.

I'm expecting some kind of huge shift in parties soon. Something like the Democrats splitting into a center and left while the Republican party just sort of collapses upon itself. The Republican Party will hold out for a long time in local/state elections due to gerrymandering but I just don't see them winning a national election at this point if they keep going the direction they are now.
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I got a month deadline before the election but I really should register now.

I kinda liked Trump for a while but especially after tonight's debate it's clear he isn't fit to be president. He's uninformed and his immigration policy is unrealistic. I'm all for securing the border and deporting criminals, but trying to push everyone out just for many to return legally is a huge undertaking and a waste of money. I think a lot of the reaction to Trump is exaggerated and reminds me of people's reactions to Obama in 2008, but he is definitely not our best option. It was entertaining while it lasted but I predict Trump will peak tonight and gradually sink in the polls.

For the Democrats, Clinton is an incredibly weak candidate and I'm not at all surprised watching her favorability plummet. Nobody trusts her. I should pay more attention to Sanders with his ratings going up but I already know most of my stances are pretty far removed from his. It will be interesting to see how it turns out between Clinton and Sanders.

It's awesome seeing Ben Carson up there behind Trump in the polls. He's probably my pick right now. We have some differing beliefs but I'm convinced he will seriously look at the issues and make informed and intelligent decisions. I wish he made the environment a stronger part of his platform but here's a great quote from his book:

"Greed really encompasses most of the other negative aspects of capitalism, such as lack of regard for the environment. Many of the industrialists who helped propel our country to the forefront of the global economy were much more interested in growing their businesses than they were in protecting the environment. The result? Dangerous pollution and the compromised habitat of many animals. Protecting the environment is neither a Democratic nor a Republican position, but rather it should be a LOGICAL position for capitalists AND socialists, because everyone should be looking out for the interests of future generations and trying to protect their own health as well. If our government were able to identify what needs to be done in our country to protect our environment, and our representatives (who are supposed to be looking out for their constituents) agreed on our policies and followed through on them, it would benefit us all."
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Ben Carson is OK as far as Republican candidates go.

What he has said in regards to homosexuality have been absolutely abhorrent and ignorant. You would think a neurosurgeon would know better.

Plus, his tendency to mix his religion with politics definitely rubs me the wrong way as someone who is non-religious.

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apparently I side with Scott Walker by 98%
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apparently I side with Scott Walker by 98%
I got the same. I don't think he has much of a chance though.
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I like that they go specific on the majority of the questions (I hate it when questions like "Do you support abortion?" is just a yes or no checkbox), but some of these I wish I could answer multiple things as I find them both correct IMO.

Regardless, this is definitely one of the better political quizzes I've taken.

Didn't answer all the questions, but this is what I got



which is cool because I was planning on voting for Sanders anyway lol.

EDIT:I actually skipped the healthcare questions beause I'm not too educated on that front, so I'm not sure why it says I agree with him there...
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I still get how Donald Trump is a serious candidate when he spent years trying to prove Obama was born in Kenya.
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CNN: Ben Carson says the United States should not elect a Muslim president.

"I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that," the retired neurosurgeon and Republican presidential candidate said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."

He said he is open, though, to voting for a Muslim for Congress.

"Congress is a different story, but it depends on who that Muslim is and what their policies are, just like it depends on what anybody else is," Carson said. "If there's somebody who is of any faith but they say things and their life has been consistent with things that will elevate this nation and make it possible for everybody to succeed and bring peace and harmony, then I'm with them."
So he's ok with a Muslim being a senator or representative but not president???

What.
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I'm going to Ben Carson. He's a Christian, and thus should bring the country closer to God, which it needs.

He's also a great guy, as explained in the movie about him, Gifted Hands, along with his book (also Gifted Hands).
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So he's ok with a Muslim being a senator or representative but not president???

What.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...pects_of_Islam

"Unlike Christianity, Islam does not separate religion from state, and many Muslims argue it is apolitical Islam not political Islam that requires explanation and that is an historical fluke of the "shortlived heyday of secular Arab nationalism between 1945 and 1970.""

Islam as it is followed by the majority of Muslims is both a religion and political system. I agree with Carson in that the president shouldn't follow a religion that advocates for the marriage of church and state, which while not actually in the Constitution is a principle I support.
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"Unlike Christianity, Islam does not separate religion from state, and many Muslims argue it is apolitical Islam not political Islam that requires explanation and that is an historical fluke of the "shortlived heyday of secular Arab nationalism between 1945 and 1970.""

Islam as it is followed by the majority of Muslims is both a religion and political system. I agree with Carson in that the president shouldn't follow a religion that advocates for the marriage of church and state, which while not actually in the Constitution is a principle I support.
Ben Carson has no problem mixing his Christian religious ideas with his ones about government. And is the main reason I am very against someone like him holding office.

It also doesn't explain why he's okay with a Muslim being a Congressman but not the President.

Also, my mother and her entire side of the family is Muslim. I know on a personal level what Islam is about and I know about its political aspects. My mother left Malaysia for the US to distance herself from a country that uses its state religion to oppress its citizens.

Each Muslim follows the religion differently, to say that all Muslims wish to combine the church and state is a gross generalization that treats all the members of one religion as a monolith. You could easily say all Christians observe Christianity the same way following that logic.
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Ben Carson has no problem mixing his Christian religious ideas with his ones about government. And is the main reason I am very against someone like him holding office.
Unless Wikipedia is wrong, the difference is that the perfect practice of Islam would make religion one and the same with the state. This is not what Ben Carson believes in, even if some of his ideas are influenced by his religion.

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It also doesn't explain why he's okay with a Muslim being a Congressman but not the President.
The President has significantly more power than what would realistically be just a few Muslim legislators, based on the small percentage of Americans that are Muslim.

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Also, my mother and her entire side of the family is Muslim. I know on a personal level what Islam is about and I know about its political aspects. My mother left Malaysia for the US to distance herself from a country that uses its state religion to oppress its citizens.

Each Muslim follows the religion differently, to say that all Muslims wish to combine the church and state is a gross generalization that treats all the members of one religion as a monolith. You could easily say all Christians observe Christianity the same way following that logic.
How do you make the distinction between those who want to combine church and state and those who don't? According to that quote lots of Muslims wouldn't even consider your mother and others like her to be true followers. That is pretty much the basis of the Islamic State, which has a sizeable amount of support among Muslims.

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How do you make the distinction between those who want to combine church and state and those who don't? According to that quote lots of Muslims wouldn't even consider your mother and others like her to be true followers. That is pretty much the basis of the Islamic State.
Uh, you treat them as individuals and ask them what is their view on separation of church and state?

"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Ephesians 5:22-24.

Does this mean I should assume every Christian politician would not address domestic violence issues?
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You conveniently left out the next verse "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it". That is the essence of marriage, that a husband and wife devote themselves to each other. Any real Christian wouldn't ignore domestic violence issues because obviously one partner is going against their vows.
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Are you saying that I lazily used Wikipedia to make baseless generalizations about the followers of a particular religion?

How am I supposed to know which Christian politicians are "real" Christians? I think it's far safer to not vote for any Christians at all.
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Well real Christians don't have potentially dangerous beliefs while Muslims (especially followers of Sharia Law) do. Also why is it okay to use Wikipedia until you don't like what it says?

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...-society-exec/
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Well real Christians don't have potentially dangerous beliefs while Muslims (especially followers of Sharia Law) do. Also why is it okay to use Wikipedia until you don't like what it says?
Do all Christians follow every single word in the Bible exactly? I could pull up a ton of unpleasant material in the Bible right now.

But what would be the point?

I know that all Christians are different in their personal interpretation of the Bible and how they practice their religion. I judge each one individually as I do with Muslims and everyone else.

You clearly know very little about Islam and Muslims and are using Wikipedia to hide your ignorance and justify your prejudice.
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Did you read the link I posted? http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...-society-exec/

Please read this paragraph in particular: "The percentage of Muslims who say they want sharia to be “the official law of the land” varies widely around the world, from fewer than one-in-ten in Azerbaijan (8%) to near unanimity in Afghanistan (99%). But solid majorities in most of the countries surveyed across the Middle East and North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia and Southeast Asia favor the establishment of sharia, including 71% of Muslims in Nigeria, 72% in Indonesia, 74% in Egypt and 89% in the Palestinian territories."

Maybe I don't know much about Islam, but I do consider a religion to be made of its followers and those percentages are not encouraging. Replace Muslim with any other word to remove personal bias and is that an ideology you would really support for a presidential candidate?
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We are living in the United States- not Nigeria or Afghanistan.

Regardless, the survey clearly shows that opinions on religion and government differ greatly from country to country depending on the cultural environment of the area. Religion is not the only axis from which people base their views and opinions.

What are the numbers on Christians and their views on merging religion with government? Many US Christians have expressed a desire to enforce their beliefs through the government such as mandating prayer in schools and erecting monuments with the Ten Commandments on public property.

It doesn't have a specific name like "Sharia" but it's the same principle. I do not support any politician that seeks to use the power of government to proselytize.

People were paranoid about JFK becoming president since he was Catholic and they thought he would follow orders from the pope. This fear was as ridiculous and unfounded as the prejudice against Muslims is today. It's hypocritical at best and xenophobic at its worst.

(If you must know more about where my personal bias is, my father's side of the family is predominately Christian and I am Agnostic.)
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I am completely with you on this.

Would you expect a Muslim living in a Muslim-dominated country to advocate for a Christian president? The US is 71% Christian and 1% Muslim. President Obama said, "One thing I've learned as president is that you represent the entire country." Muslims are generally more devout than Christians (at least from those I know, you probably have similar experiences), so I think it's wise to at the very least be cautious about having a Muslim lead and represent a country that is mostly of a different belief system.

Also you can tell just from the headlines the media is trying to exaggerate Carson's statement to fit their agenda. From Politico "Ben Carson: America's president can't be Muslim" and from The Guardian "Ben Carson says no Muslim should ever become US president". All he said was he wouldn't advocate for it and he doesn't believe Islam is in line with the Constitution.
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I am completely with you on this.

Would you expect a Muslim living in a Muslim-dominated country to advocate for a Christian president? The US is 71% Christian and 1% Muslim. President Obama said, "One thing I've learned as president is that you represent the entire country." Muslims are generally more devout than Christians (at least from those I know, you probably have similar experiences), so I think it's wise to at the very least be cautious about having a Muslim lead and represent a country that is mostly of a different belief system.

Also you can tell just from the headlines the media is trying to exaggerate Carson's statement to fit their agenda. From Politico "Ben Carson: America's president can't be Muslim" and from The Guardian "Ben Carson says no Muslim should ever become US president". All he said was he wouldn't advocate for it and he doesn't believe Islam is in line with the Constitution.
What is there to be cautious about? If we are supposed to be "cautious" about having Muslim elected leader, we should be "cautious" about Christians and other religious people holding office.

There is nothing contradictory about being religious and serving as a government official that respects the separation of church and state. What is contained in a religion's particular text says little about how an individual actually practices their faith.

Islam in particular specifically outlines 5 pillars of the faith in order to be Muslim. None of which have anything to do with sharia law.

Again, John F Kennedy was a Catholic elected as US president in a country that is predominately Protestant. People made the exact same claims that JFK would place his Catholicism over serving as president.
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But let me stress again that these are my views. For contrary to common newspaper usage, I am not the Catholic candidate for president. I am the Democratic Party's candidate for president, who happens also to be a Catholic. I do not speak for my church on public matters, and the church does not speak for me.

As the US constitution states in Article VI, paragraph 3:
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The comments Ben Carson has made about Islam are prejudiced and directly disagree with the most basic principles of our US Constitution that an individual regardless of their religion can serve the government.

Also to address something you brought up earlier, most of the people killed by ISIS are in fact, Muslim. Here is the UN report on ISIS crimes. Syrian refugees both Muslim and Christian are currently dying by the millions to escape from them. They certainly don't support sharia law and the vast majority of Muslims across the world are appalled by ISIS crimes.

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Ben Carson's beliefs are ignorant and bigoted.
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There is nothing contradictory about being religious and serving as a government official that respects the separation of church and state. What is contained in a religion's particular text says little about how an individual actually practices their faith.

Islam in particular specifically outlines 5 pillars of the faith in order to be Muslim. None of which have anything to do with sharia law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_of_sharia

The first pillar, "There is no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet." I assume this means that since the Quran is revelation from God to Muhammad, Muslims must believe in the Quran. From wikipedia, "The primary sources [of Sharia], accepted universally by all Muslims, are the Qur'an and Sunnah". Both of these are believed by Muslims to be from the inspired words of Muhammad. How then could any Muslim reject Sharia law? This isn't necessarily related to the last question but would you advocate for someone who believes in Sharia law and would uphold it over the Constitution to be president?

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Great so we have one example where it turned out okay having a Christian president of a different denomination. Does that immediately disqualify all concerns about a president's religion interfering with his or her ability to serve in their office? You said "If we are supposed to be "cautious" about having Muslim elected leader, we should be "cautious" about Christians and other religious people holding office," and I agree with that statement, but I believe extra scrutiny of a Muslim candidate is justified because Islam directly opposes many of the fundamental principle of Christianity (the majority religion of the nation), has a very recent history of conflict with Christianity, and is definitely not in line with the Constitution if you accept Sharia as part of the Islamic faith.

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The comments Ben Carson has made about Islam are prejudiced and directly disagree with the most basic principles of our US Constitution that an individual regardless of their religion can serve the government.
Carson did not say that because someone is Muslim they cannot hold the office, but that their religion would not make them suitable to uphold the Constitution.

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And bam, here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/politi...aw-presidency/. Happy now?

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The first pillar, "There is no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet." I assume this means that since the Quran is revelation from God to Muhammad, Muslims must believe in the Quran. From wikipedia, "The primary sources [of Sharia], accepted universally by all Muslims, are the Qur'an and Sunnah". Both of these are believed by Muslims to be from the inspired words of Muhammad.How then could any Muslim reject Sharia law?
You might as well ask how anyone could follow any religion. People pick and choose from the Bible, Koran, etc. what rules they want to follow. Just because someone is of a particular religion and their corresponding religious text says ________ it doesn't mean they actually condone it.

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Hell no.

That should have been obvious from the beginning.

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Great so we have one example where it turned out okay having a Christian president of a different denomination. Does that immediately disqualify all concerns about a president's religion interfering with his or her ability to serve in their office? You said "If we are supposed to be "cautious" about having Muslim elected leader, we should be "cautious" about Christians and other religious people holding office," and I agree with that statement, but I believe extra scrutiny of a Muslim candidate is justified because Islam directly opposes many of the fundamental principle of Christianity (the majority religion of the nation), has a very recent history of conflict with Christianity, and is definitely not in line with the Constitution if you accept Sharia as part of the Islamic faith.
Doesn't matter whether or not a president is a member of the majority group as long as they treat all groups equally under the law.

Bernie Sanders is Jewish and one of the most popular candidates for the Democratic Party currently. Judaism also directly opposes Christianity on several fundamental principles. I have yet to see anyone raise concerns over how his religion would affect his presidency.

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all a part of the same religious family and believe in the same God anyway.

If anyone should be "cautious", it should be non-theists (like myself) since Christians have literally prohibited atheists and nonbelievers from holding office. I currently live in a state where that ban is still technically in place.

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Carson did not say that because someone is Muslim they cannot hold the office, but that their religion would not make them suitable to uphold the Constitution.

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And bam, here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/politi...aw-presidency/. Happy now?
So he thinks they can hold office- but they would still be unsuitable for that position. Ok....

Better late than never, I suppose. But you would think that after the "prison turns people gay" comment he would think before he opens his mouth.
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You might as well ask how anyone could follow any religion. People pick and choose from the Bible, Koran, etc. what rules they want to follow. Just because someone is of a particular religion and their corresponding religious text says ________ it doesn't mean they actually condone it.
People choose not to follow certain rules, but that doesn't mean they reject them. I'm pretty sure any Christian would support another's resolve to abstain from sex until marriage, even if they don't follow it themselves. Casual Muslims, however, want to deny Sharia as part of their religion and even condemn it, though it comes from their holy books just as the laws of Christianity do.

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Bernie Sanders is Jewish and one of the most popular candidates for the Democratic Party currently. Judaism also directly opposes Christianity on several fundamental principles. I have yet to see anyone raise concerns over how his religion would affect his presidency.
Sanders has said himself that he identifies as culturally Jewish but isn't particularly religious.
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People choose not to follow certain rules, but that doesn't mean they reject them. I'm pretty sure any Christian would support another's resolve to abstain from sex until marriage, even if they don't follow it themselves. Casual Muslims, however, want to deny Sharia as part of their religion and even condemn it, though it comes from their holy books just as the laws of Christianity do.
Abstaining from sex is a personal decision that has nothing to do with government. A better comparison is the wearing of the hijab. Not all Muslim women cover themselves but Muslims that choose not to wear one support those that do.

There's a ton of awful garbage in the Christian Bible too. Does this mean that Christians secretly support those principles just because it's in the Bible?

Why are you so concerned about some imaginary case where a Muslim president implements sharia law or whatever when there are literally hundreds of cases where Christians in US government positions have used their power to promote Christianity or used their religion as an excuse to discriminate?
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I updated the OP. Scott Walker and Rick Perry have both dropped out of the race since I made it.

The latest:
-Pope does pope things in the US; meets with Obama
-John Boehner is resigning from his position as Speaker of the House.
-The FEC fundraising deadline is coming up next week. Donate to the candidate of your choice soon.
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Democratic debate is tonight! Going on right now.
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Very interesting debate.

A lot of tough questions were asked.

Sanders and Clinton dominated the attention of the debate but O'Malley managed to make an positive impression. Webb's whining was a serious turn-off and Chafee was just there.
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Update:
The Democratic candidates are down to just 3- O'Malley, Clinton and Sanders.

Jindal dropped out of the race but there are still a lot of Republican candidates.
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Convenient that this topic appeared when Bernie Sanders joined the forum ~
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:10 PM
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The fact that Donald Trump is a candidate for president is embarrassing and kinda scary. TBH.

Someone as awful as him should not have the popularity he does but I guess there's a sizable angry white conservative demographic that likes his racist rhetoric.
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Was hoping the "disqualifies you from being president" talk from the White House actually would've meant something. He's getting disturbingly close to what Hitler planned with the Jews.
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I know Trump, Cruz, and Clinton have stated their proposed response to the San Bernardino shootings, has anyone else said anything?
Old 12-10-2015, 03:35 AM
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In regards to gun control, Sanders has been in support of nationwide background checks and increased access to mental health care since the beginning of his campaign.

He has reaffirmed his position since the shootings at Planned Parenthood and San Bernardino.
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On behalf of Americans everywhere, I would like to apologize for Donald Trump. I actually hope Hilary Clinton wins over that jerkoff... :-/

Also, I live in San Bernardino, and our police have been crazy protective since the terrorist attack, and it's nice to see the world actually caring about our little town for once lol.
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Old 12-10-2015, 04:58 PM
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The Freedom Bird has rejected him. This definitely disqualifies him from the presidency.

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On behalf of Americans everywhere, I would like to apologize for Donald Trump. I actually hope Hilary Clinton wins over that jerkoff... :-/

Also, I live in San Bernardino, and our police have been crazy protective since the terrorist attack, and it's nice to see the world actually caring about our little town for once lol.
I'm so sorry that the shooting happened in your town. I hope you and anyone else there is safe now.
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Obama's last State of Union Address is going on right now
Old 02-02-2016, 04:32 AM
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Iowa Caucuses going on right now.

On the Republican side, Ted Cruz has won, meanwhile Hillary and Bernie are super close with a near 1% difference between the two, Hillary winning, but Bernie is catching up.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:00 PM
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Iowa Caucuses going on right now.

On the Republican side, Ted Cruz has won, meanwhile Hillary and Bernie are super close with a near 1% difference between the two, Hillary winning, but Bernie is catching up.
Ted Cruz is worse than Donald Trump. Yikes.

I am very surprised it is that close. Very interesting to see who wins.
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Hillary Clinton won, just barely though.

I wonder how this will effect Bernie. On one hand, he lost, but on the other, it was so miniscule that it was practically a tie, something a lot of people wouldn't have predicted a couple of months ago.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:04 PM
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Bernie Sanders directed an SNL skit about him losing the Iowa Caucus. He also made a cameo in another skit, making him the third(?) Presidential Candidate to make a guest appearance on the show, with Hillary and Trump being the other 2.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:39 PM
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Yeah, I just saw that.

I loved SNL's parodies of the debates. They're pretty great.

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I don't really like any of the candidates. I'm just gonna write in Snoopy and call it a day.
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I don't even know if I'm going to bother voting.
Clinton's winning New York regardless.
Old 02-20-2016, 03:52 PM
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I don't even know if I'm going to bother voting.
Clinton's winning New York regardless.
I'm in East TN and it's red all the way here.

Cruz, Trump, and Carson signs galore but I do see quite a few Bernie signs.
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Voter apathy is lame, yo! Go out and vote! Tomorrow is Super Tuesday and a lot of states are having their primaries including my own. I'll be out there bright and early doing my part and so should you if you live in the following states:



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Old 03-01-2016, 10:20 PM
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I got my voting sticker and all that.

It went pretty quickly.
Old 03-01-2016, 10:50 PM
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SC is a Trump/Clinton state
Old 03-01-2016, 10:52 PM
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Really don't like that the states don't vote all at once. I live in Indiana, towards the end of the list. All that's going to do is psych out voters who maybe want a candidate that's losing and dissuade them from voting for that candidate :/
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My state went for Clinton overall but the three counties in my area (including the one I voted in) went to Sanders. Pretty neat.

Also, I seriously thought this was an onion quote at first:
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After today, its looking like Hillary v Trump as our final votes.

On one hand, no Ted Cruz
on the other hand, no Bernie Sanders, and its Trump vs Hillary.
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It's so funny how literally everyone hates the guy.
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My state(Indiana) voted today.

I didn't get to vote(still living at dorm, didn't get absentee vote in time), but we still voted Bernie for the Democrats, and Trump won so hard Cruz has officially dropped out, so I'm pretty proud of our state lol.
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My state(Indiana) voted today.

I didn't get to vote(still living at dorm, didn't get absentee vote in time), but we still voted Bernie for the Democrats, and Trump won so hard Cruz has officially dropped out, so I'm pretty proud of our state lol.
I guess this means Trump is pretty much THE Republican nominee now.

I'd pick Trump over Cruz but still...

Gross.
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And Kasich is out, so Trump wins.
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And Kasich is out, so Trump wins.
This just sucks.
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This just sucks.
Was there another republican you were pulling for?
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Was there another republican you were pulling for?
lol no.

But it would have been nice to have 2 relatively sane people running against each other for president.
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Well Trump was never really that subtle with his meaning. This guy is just doing away with the pretenses
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Well Trump was never really that subtle with his meaning. This guy is just doing away with the pretenses
I guess that's the unfortunate consequence when your platform is based on eliminating illegal immigration and organized terrorism.
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Trump's platform is based on catering to angry old white people who miss the days when black people sat at the back of the bus.

He doesn't know the first thing about how to reform immigration or how to combat terrorism. None of the solutions he has proposed to fix either are feasible. He just says what his mob followers want to hear.
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Well, the first Presidential debate went about as expected.