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Old 04-03-2016, 05:28 AM
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Is the DCEU dead on arrival?
Is Snyder a hack who's taking down the cape industry with him?
Was the film a fun action packed romp tackling questions of how super powers and vigilantism would influence the real world?
Was Eisenberg's Luthor a refreshing new take on the villain or character assassination?
Can Gal Gadot act?

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Old 04-03-2016, 05:36 AM
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The DCEU is hardly dead on arrival. Snyder is a divisive filmmaker to say the least, but I'm on the side of loving Batman V Superman (and Man of Steel was also good). I enjoyed Watchmen, and haven't seen any other of his movies.

The story made sense, the character motivations made sense and the characterisation, while different, made a lot of sense given the immense destruction done in Man of Steel.

Fantastic movie in my opinion, and I'd rank it higher than Marvel's Age of Ultron.

Also Jeremy Irons was hilarious and a bloody good Alfred!
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:50 AM
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Is the DCEU dead on arrival?
Is Snyder a hack who's taking down the cape industry with him?
After seeing those second week returns I can safely answer yes to both of these questions. This is what you get, DC. This is what you get for going with trash like Snyder
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Old 04-08-2016, 02:08 AM
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The movie was good. Not Iron Man 1 or Guardians good, but shows DC can make an enjoyable movie set within its own universe.

Apparently I'm in the minority on that opinion though, so RIP.
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:42 AM
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I'd see it because it looks so bad.

Not in theaters tho.
Old 04-10-2016, 04:19 AM
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this is a ****ing terrible movie
nothing happens in a whole hour
lois is dumb
superman doesnt look like he could be arsed to do any emotion
batman is completely crazy in all the wrong ways
luthor is just joker but worse
and thats not even getting into the nonsensical plot that just shows how Snyder actively rejects the idea of superheroes and humanity being good in general
Old 04-10-2016, 06:44 AM
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Ok I pretty much disagree with Xpike on literally everything he said, but the three points I'm actually confused about are bolded.

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this is a ****ing terrible movie
nothing happens in a whole hour
lois is dumb
superman doesnt look like he could be arsed to do any emotion
batman is completely crazy in all the wrong ways
luthor is just joker but worse
and thats not even getting into the nonsensical plot that just shows how Snyder actively rejects the idea of superheroes and humanity being good in general
1. What is wrong with Batman? Minus the killing, this is exactly how I pictured Batman would be. What ways is he "wrong" in being crazy?
2. I agree Luthor is the Joker and not Luthor, personally, I think that is a positive change since Luthor is one of my least favorite villains, and Joker one of my favorites, but how is he a worse Joker? Eisenberg killed it IMO and I'd love to see him play the actual Joker in a Batman film.
3. What's wrong with going off of the idea of superheroes being bad for humanity? It just sounds like you don't like that direction and want to argue that its bad instead of just saying it isn't your preference.

Would love some elaborations on those points. It sounds like more like "I didn't like the direction, therfor the movie was ****" instead of actual problems with the film itself.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:54 AM
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I agree Luthor is the Joker and not Luthor, personally, I think that is a positive change
Luthor is a fascinating character though

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Old 04-10-2016, 09:05 AM
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The difference between Luthor and the Joker in this movie is that Luthor isn't completely insane, he just has very strong beliefs. He's self-righteous, which is what Luthor always was - intelligent and egotistical.

Joker, at least in this universe, seems completely psychotic rather than an intelligent businessman with polarising beliefs.

I mean, does anyone remember Luthor in the first Justice League Unlimited series? His characterisation is similar in those to what it is here.
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Old 04-10-2016, 03:20 PM
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luthor is portrayed as a weird spasm-like version of mark zuckenberg, with absolutely no social awareness and doing weird **** like feeding candy to people.
He's completely crazy and his plan..., well Joker in Dark Knight made more sense.
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And if you liked Joker-Luthor, that's fine, but wanting the same kind of villian in every single movie is ridiculous, especially when Loki is already extremely popular and he's the same kind of serious, cold, and manipulative villian Luthor should've been.

Also the idea of portraying superheroes as bad is ridiculous.
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And that's just some of my gripes with the story, the music is passable, and the visuals looked like someone smeared an Evanenscense video all over my screen.
Old 04-10-2016, 07:35 PM
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It was put together sloppily. Wonder Woman saved the film for me tho. I give it a 6.5/10. Really sets up the next line of dc films quite nicely
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