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Gen III (Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, LeafGreen) 3 33.33%
Gen IV (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver) 0 0%
Gen V (Black, White, Black 2, White 2) 1 11.11%
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How do people like Mijumaru? Like, is there anything good about his character design or stats? He's called derpderp for a reason.
His third form is the best of the three IMO. The other guys just are horrible!

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His third form is the best of the three IMO. The other guys just are horrible!

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I kinda like them
Why?

The fire starter is weak to as much as infernape WITH very low defence and he is as slow as my dead grandma.

The grass starter is a fast tank, not bad, but I don't like tanks that are weak to a lot.
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Why?

The fire starter is weak to as much as infernape WITH very low defence and he is as slow as my dead grandma.

The grass starter is a fast tank, not bad, but I don't like tanks that are weak to a lot.
I don't usually go by stats and weaknesses for the starter. It's just there to, well help me start lol. I eventually get rid of them.
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I don't usually go by stats and weaknesses for the starter. It's just there to, well help me start lol. I eventually get rid of them.
I do. I want to have a good start, lol. In the hands of if I keep them or not, really depends on the starter. I usually keep Swampert...
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Infernape is so dangerous.
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Hey blues, are you going to participate in the league as a challenger? just wondering
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Infernape is so dangerous.
Lol, if you think Infernape is dangerous, you should look at the next fire starter. At least infernape is a good sweeper...

FYI the new fire starter has lower defence (and Sp. defence) than Inferneape. EDIT: Nice thing about the new starter is he has higher HP, but I don't know how much that will help...
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[revive] *whoose* come on everyone dont let the pride die
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[revive] *whoose* come on everyone dont let the pride die
It seems like the tournaments there is more competition for posts lol. The pride will never die
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if it comes close ill just heal it if it does i will revive it

whats the coolest looking b&w pokemon
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if it comes close ill just heal it if it does i will revive it

whats the coolest looking b&w pokemon
Zekrom !
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Sazandora and Genosect
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We only need 2 more leaders in the forum pokemon league. Come on guys.

anyway back on topic, I think all gen 5 pokemon look awesome
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is the coolest looking Pokemon~
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is the (2nd) most broken Pokemon

Also, just saying, Infernape is a freaking deadly lead. You have great sweeping moves, good speed, trap moves, Fake Out...

Seriously, it's quite awesome.

buuuuut now Blaziken has Speed Boost, so yeah
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thats why he makes a good ninja
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is the (2nd) most broken Pokemon

Also, just saying, Infernape is a freaking deadly lead. You have great sweeping moves, good speed, trap moves, Fake Out...

Seriously, it's quite awesome.

buuuuut now Blaziken has Speed Boost, so yeah
Well, that's in dream world so... yeah
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didnt see the blazikin part but him too
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It's still gonna have Speed Boost when it's caught.
Give it Swords Dance and sweep.
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It's still gonna have Speed Boost when it's caught.
Give it Swords Dance and sweep.
To be honest I've never heard of "Dream World". Sounds cool though!
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To be honest I've never heard of "Dream World". Sounds cool though!
its a site linked to pokemon b&w
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its a site linked to pokemon b&w
Ah, I see. Black and White look soo AWESOME!
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Ah, I see. Black and White look soo AWESOME!
it crashed the first day actually but u put a pokemon in there and u can grow baries decorate and befriend pokemon that u can take back with u
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wow how the heck did it crash?
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wow how the heck did it crash?
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrr..BOOM!

That's how.
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to many people on at once
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Anyone wanna brawl? Kinda a pre-tourney practice for this Saturday?
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I would, but I don't have brawl
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Politoed's Drizzle and Ninetails's Drought

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I see OU promotions, and an emphasis on weather control.

I really do like Sunny Day teams.
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The last tournament to be planned but the first to start, Whoo!
Anyway.
Dear Pokemon trainers:
You are hereby invited to challenge the forum pokemon league
The leaders are:
Chipvader
Type:creepy
Certified trainers: none
Team: gliscor, houndoom, drapion, ariados, spiritomb, crobat

Nicnec7
Type: fire-breathers
Certified trainers: none
Team: Blaziken, Torkoal, Camerupt, Flygon, Salamance, Metagross

Zelda3DS
Type: special attackers
Certified trainers: none
Team: is a mystery but was still approved by me

Ace the fox
Theme: ninja
Certified trainers: none
Team: lucario,monfernape,shedninja,nuvleaf, blazicon, welvile

Shabu420
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tyranitar,machamp,glaceon,dragonite,salamence,rhyp erior

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Team: Swampert, Jirachi (Is is accepted even though it is a legendary beacuse it's classified in OU), Gliscor, Tyranitar, Garchomp

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Team:Umbreon, Houndoom, Spiritomb, Sharpedo, Honchcrow, Sneasel

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The last tournament to be planned but the first to start, Whoo!
Anyway.
Dear Pokemon trainers:
You are hereby invited to challenge the forum pokemon league
The leaders are:
Chipvader
Type:creepy
Certified trainers: none
Team: gliscor, houndoom, drapion, ariados, spiritomb, crobat

Nicnec7
Type: fire-breathers
Certified trainers: none
Team: Blaziken, Torkoal, Camerupt, Flygon, Salamance, Metagross

Zelda3DS
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Certified trainers: none
Team: is a mystery but was still approved by me

Ace the fox
Theme: ninja
Certified trainers: none
Team: lucario,monfernape,shedninja,nuvleaf, blazicon, welvile

Shabu420
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Certified trainers: none
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tyranitar,machamp,glaceon,dragonite,salamence,rhyp erior

Flub
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Certified trainers: none
Team: Swampert, Jirachi (Is is accepted even though it is a legendary beacuse it's classified in OU), Gliscor, Tyranitar, Garchomp

Raney150
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Team:Umbreon, Houndoom, Spiritomb, Sharpedo, Honchcrow, Sneasel

Message these leaders to let them know if you want to battle them and decide a time.

Note: Ace the Fox is unable to act as gym leader at this time but will have a substitute acting for him A.S.A.P.
Looks awesome! You should post the results!
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Looks awesome! You should post the results!
The results will be updated in the forum for this league.
I only wanted to post it here to get people aware of it.
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The results will be updated in the forum for this league.
I only wanted to post it here to get people aware of it.
Garchomp has changed to Aggron so I have no Ubers.
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Garchomp has changed to Aggron so I have no Ubers.
Ok cool. Now we are just waiting for marc's team and a substitute leader. So is anyone else going to watch the amine in gen 5
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probly not sence i kinda stoped after ep6 is daimond
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I am going to give it a chance
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ive seen afew and team rockets getting serious now
they havent blast off much theyve just gotten away
and theyer sent on actual missions by geovony (cant spell it)
its really starting anew this time
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ive seen afew and team rockets getting serious now
they havent blast off much theyve just gotten away
and theyer sent on actual missions by geovony (cant spell it)
its really starting anew this time
Yay! I love the direction pokemon is going
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Ash is still 10 years old.

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Ehhh... I still don't care for the show. They're going with the whole 'ASH SETS OFF ON A WHOLE NEW JOURNEY WITH PIKACHU" thing like they did in R/S, and even though that was still after I stopped watching, I didn't like it.
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Ehhh... I still don't care for the show. They're going with the whole 'ASH SETS OFF ON A WHOLE NEW JOURNEY WITH PIKACHU" thing like they did in R/S, and even though that was still after I stopped watching, I didn't like it.
Hopefully they can make it more interesting
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please do and stop the whole ash is the chosen one of everything stuff(its worst then have a white(no affence) chosen one in a samurai and ninja,kung fu movie)

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hey do you think we could use pkbr for the turments(if it has a feature we can use so multiple people can watch the battle
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hey do you think we could use pkbr for the turments(if it has a feature we can use so multiple people can watch the battle
what is pkbr?
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I'd guess Pokemon Battle Revolution
Oh in that case Ace the Fox how about you host it?

I don't personally have that game.
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hey do you think we could use pkbr for the turments(if it has a feature we can use so multiple people can watch the battle
well i call it pbr
and ash is just always in the right place at the right time (or wrong places at the wrong time depending on how u think of it)

and i have pbr but ive never used the online
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well i call it pbr
and ash is just always in the right place at the right time (or wrong places at the wrong time depending on how u think of it)

and i have pbr but ive never used the online
I heard you can battle a random person on it
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I haven't watched the show since the first season, or the movies past number 4.

As for Pokemon Battle Revolution, I could play it but my handheld Pokemon games are NTSC (USA) whereas my Wii is PAL (Europe).
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I haven't watched the show since the first season, or the movies past number 4.

As for Pokemon Battle Revolution, I could play it but my handheld Pokemon games are NTSC (USA) whereas my Wii is PAL (Europe).
I haven't watched the anime since johto and haven't seen the movies since the fourth one

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YEAH! Pokemon is for the epic people!
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And almost everyone on these forums is epic.
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Pretty much.

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These categories are seriously messed up. Remakes shouldn't be paired with the generation that's active at that time. People that play LeafGreen don't necessarily think ruby and sapphire are the best gen.

Should be Blue, Red, Green, Yellow, LeafGreen and FireRed.

and so on for the other games/remakes.
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These categories are seriously messed up. Remakes shouldn't be paired with the generation that's active at that time. People that play LeafGreen don't necessarily think ruby and sapphire are the best gen.

Should be Blue, Red, Green, Yellow, LeafGreen and FireRed.

and so on for the other games/remakes.
The remake are a part of gens 3 and 4. If they pike the remakes the best they can vote for gens 1 and 2 since those were the originals
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The remake are a part of gens 3 and 4. If they pike the remakes the best they can vote for gens 1 and 2 since those were the originals
The generations refer to the region and Pokemon collection that's currently in play. When they create a remake of any older generation game, it stays in that generation. There is nothing in any of the remakes that would bump them up to the newer generation at all.
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The generations refer to the region and Pokemon collection that's currently in play. When they create a remake of any older generation game, it stays in that generation. There is nothing in any of the remakes that would bump them up to the newer generation at all.
Yes there are, plenty of things. like one being THE POKEMON! and it has nothing to do with regions, well it does kinda. But the generations start with a new region. Firered doesn't play like red. The EV system is totally changed, and there are more moves and there are abilities.
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The generations refer to the region and Pokemon collection that's currently in play. When they create a remake of any older generation game, it stays in that generation. There is nothing in any of the remakes that would bump them up to the newer generation at all.
No, the generations are governed largely by the Pokemon obtainable in them. They are as follows:

Gen I: Red, Blue, Yellow, Green(Japan only)
Gen II: Gold, Silver, Crystal
Gen III: Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Firered, Leafgreen, Colosseum, XD: Gale Of Darkness
Gen IV: Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Pokemon Battle Revolution
Gen V: Black, White
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I simply refer to a generation as the system its for, and I completely ignore the gc, wii and spinoff games.
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I simply refer to a generation as the system its for, and I completely ignore the gc, wii and spinoff games.
Colosseum, XD and Battle Revolution don't really fit under spin offs though.

And B/W are on the DS, but introduce a new region and 150+ new Pokemon, so counting each console as a separate generation doesn't work.
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Yeah, I just don't think of them as generations, more like individual series, ex. RBE, RBY, Xd and colloseum, etc.
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No, the generations are governed largely by the Pokemon obtainable in them. They are as follows:

Gen I: Red, Blue, Yellow, Green(Japan only)
Gen II: Gold, Silver, Crystal
Gen III: Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Firered, Leafgreen, Colosseum, XD: Gale Of Darkness
Gen IV: Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Pokemon Battle Revolution
Gen V: Black, White
This. And other things. Like firered and leafgreen had dark and steel types and had the new EV system introduced in gen 3. Meanwhile red had neither of these. Heartgold and souls silver have the physical and special attack change that was introduced in gen 4 but gold and silver didnt
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This. And other things. Like firered and leafgreen had dark and steel types and had the new EV system introduced in gen 3. Meanwhile red had neither of these. Heartgold and souls silver have the physical and special attack change that was introduced in gen 4 but gold and silver didnt
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thank you,you revived the theard (instead of me for once) dont forget to keep it alive

on topic how many people have pokemon battle revolution
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i already said that i do
does it really have a spectator mode?
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i already said that i do
does it really have a spectator mode?
We can hope it does.
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quick to the google *meanwhile on google*
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I don't think PBR has spectator. Does anyone know what online features Black and White have?
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I don't think PBR has spectator. Does anyone know what online features Black and White have?
b&w has mission, an online sever random battle and video chat
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thank you,you revived the theard (instead of me for once) dont forget to keep it alive

on topic how many people have pokemon battle revolution
Actually I revived this thread multiple times! I was the first one to revive it.

I don't have Pokemon Battle Revolution, I don't plan to buy a game that I can already use. Maybe if I really wanted my wifi to work and/or I hosted tourneys.
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i wonder when the next real console pokemon game will come out (not that the wii ware and pokepark look bad)
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b&w has mission, an online sever random battle and video chat
The missions are online? I thought they were just local.

I was kinda wondering what kind of battles you could do online.

Personally, I'd really like online Battle Frontier.

Speaking of which, who else thinks Battle Factory is pretty much amazing?
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The missions are online? I thought they were just local.
idk i might have missed up but u can download songs for the musical too (idk who would(i might if i get bored))
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hey if this has video chat the 3ds most definatly should(shouldnt black and white only work or the dsi then?)
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hey if this has video chat the 3ds most definatly should(shouldnt black and white only work or the dsi then?)
its a dsi extra bonus feature thing
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hey if this has video chat the 3ds most definatly should(shouldnt black and white only work or the dsi then?)
Pokemon wouldn't make it work only on the DSi. That would lose a lot of potential sales including my guaranteed purchase. Simply because I have a DS phat and that's it. I am not going to get a new model, especially not this close to the 3DS.
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Lol, especially not when other threads on the front page haven't been posted on in a while. But I find it humorous and find it an honor they like my thread so much to give it CPR. Random but did you know breathless CPR actually is more effective.
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also doesn't mean it isn't!
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yup raney!!!! I got 1000!!!!!!! xd! it's not a great post but just remember this! i gave u my 1000th post! u betters remember it. i hope it was as good for you as it was for me. and don't worry you were gentle! :xD
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We'll remember that, sam. When are black and white coming to US? (No pun intended)
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The missions are online? I thought they were just local.

I was kinda wondering what kind of battles you could do online.

Personally, I'd really like online Battle Frontier.

Speaking of which, who else thinks Battle Factory is pretty much amazing?
The Battle Factory is the best Frontier Facility, in my opinion. The rest simply require you to have a few Pokemon with a high Base Stat Total. Blissey, Latios and Metagross got me through every Facility except the Factory.
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yup raney!!!! I got 1000!!!!!!! xd! it's not a great post but just remember this! i gave u my 1000th post! u betters remember it. i hope it was as good for you as it was for me. and don't worry you were gentle! :xD
This deserves more than lol so lmao
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Have you ever stopped breathing for 3 hours?

Anyway, Favorite high sp. attack pokemon? (Alakazam, Porygon Z, ect)
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have you ever stopped breathing for 3 hours?

Anyway, favorite high sp. Attack pokemon? (alakazam, porygon z, ect)
alakazam !
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This deserves more than lol so lmao
lol i knew you would like it!!!
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T'was funny.
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was what I was thinking. That guy is beastly. Plus, he gets Shadow Tag as his Dream World ability (so, he's going to get banned.)
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I'd be happy if that didn't happen, actually.

Fire moth would be up there too, but I couldn't find a gif for it ;__;
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I like Gengar! I don't know about the lamp...

Togekiss is pretty cool also
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That lamp guy looks awesome
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Anyway, Favorite high sp. attack pokemon? (Alakazam, Porygon Z, ect)
Heatran in OU, Mewtwo in Ubers.
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I don't know, maybe Espeon. he/she is cool looking, so i'll go with Espeon!
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I don't know, maybe Espeon. he/she is cool looking, so i'll go with Espeon!
I love espeon
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Espeon was pro in Colosseum.
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Espeon is like alakazam but not as good.

Maybe better defence...
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This is probably the third version mascot. I noticed that unlike its Fire and Electric type counterparts, it doesn't glow a certain color. So I'm theorizing that its situation in the third game will be similar to Genesect, in that Team Plasma will "resurrect" it.

Yeah, I'm predicting a new form of some sort for this thing. Hopefully a beneficial one like Sky Forme Shaymin, 'cause this legendary fails pretty hard from experience. :/
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Lovin' the pics @Blue! That would be cool if you're right!
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This is probably the third version mascot. I noticed that unlike its Fire and Electric type counterparts, it doesn't glow a certain color. So I'm theorizing that its situation in the third game will be similar to Genesect, in that Team Plasma will "resurrect" it.

Yeah, I'm predicting a new form of some sort for this thing. Hopefully a beneficial one like Sky Forme Shaymin, 'cause this legendary fails pretty hard from experience. :/
Genosect fails pretty hard as well, its signature move and cassettes are fairly useless.
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Let me see if I can try a Pokemon game

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Never mind, I'll play something else. Did I say it out loud?
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Never mind, I'll play something else. Did I say it out loud?
It's not compulsory to enjoy Pokemon, although why you would post in this thread if you don't baffles me.
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I'm just being humorous.
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Genosect fails pretty hard as well, its signature move and cassettes are fairly useless.
Really? I haven't tried it, but looks pretty good.

It's comparable to Scizor with its powerful U-turn, but unlike Scizor it it has the Special Attack and moves to counter switch ins like Skarmory, Salamence, Heatran, and a bunch of others that resist.

But it's most beneficial aspect is it's amazing coverage with great moves. Bug Buzz, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Hidden Power, etc. With the right Download, Genesect can hit pretty hard, right from the start. Even cooler are the neat resistances provided by the Bug/Steel combo. It resists priority and with Rock Polish, seems to alleviate the speed problem.

This thing doesn't fail as hard as Kyuremu in my opinion.
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Really? I haven't tried it, but looks pretty good.

It's comparable to Scizor with its powerful U-turn, but unlike Scizor it it has the Special Attack and moves to counter switch ins like Skarmory, Salamence, Heatran, and a bunch of others that resist.

But it's most beneficial aspect is it's amazing coverage with great moves. Bug Buzz, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Hidden Power, etc. With the right Download, Genesect can hit pretty hard, right from the start. Even cooler are the neat resistances provided by the Bug/Steel combo. It resists priority and with Rock Polish, seems to alleviate the speed problem.

This thing doesn't fail as hard as Kyuremu in my opinion.
I'll agree to that, although I feel Kyuremu's main problem is his horrible defensive typing.

Techno Buster is a fairly weak attack (85 Base Power) which takes up an item slot. It's fairly redundant in comparison to the rest of Genosects options.

It has nice attacking stats, although I feel 99 base speed is a painful number, as whilst it can always beat 90 and 95 base speed Pokemon it misses out on the speed tie with the base 100 Pokemon. A lack of Bullet Punch is also disappointing, although the speed is aeons better than Scizor so it is unlikely to need to resort to it.
I agree that it certainly belongs in OU due to its great mixed attacking stats and coverage to rival that of Electivire though. It's mainly the signature move which disappoints me, similarly to how Roar Of Time is a disappointing addition to an otherwise fantastic Pokemon.
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Well as great as mixed attacking is, it's physical movepool is really limited to X-Scissor and maybe a few others not worth mentioning. At least with that, Blissey doesn't wall it though.

Kyuremu is just bad, everywhere I look at. D: Yeah, there is the redundant typing, but it's movepool is shallow and its stats aren't distributed well. Dragon/Ice hits everything, but Steel walls that pretty nice. Focus Blast is the only move, as of now, that can penetrate that defense. Stealth Rock weak is bad too. This'll probably be the closest we'll get to Dragon/Dragon ahah.
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Well as great as mixed attacking is, it's physical movepool is really limited to X-Scissor and maybe a few others not worth mentioning. At least with that, Blissey doesn't wall it though.

Kyuremu is just bad, everywhere I look at. D: Yeah, there is the redundant typing, but it's movepool is shallow and its stats aren't distributed well. Dragon/Ice hits everything, but Steel walls that pretty nice. Focus Blast is the only move, as of now, that can penetrate that defense. Stealth Rock weak is bad too. This'll probably be the closest we'll get to Dragon/Dragon ahah.
I'm personally holding out for a Psychic/Dark type. That typing gives only one weakness (4x to bug), and would be very interesting as both a wall and a sweeper which takes mostly neutral hits across the board.
If one had Base Stats of 100HP/85DEF/75SPDEF, it would be able to survive Max Attack Tyranitar Crunch (Including sandstorm damage) and Max SPATK Heatran Fire Blast.
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I'm just glad we finally have Fire/Psychic :3 The Bug Pokemon, this generation, have also been great additions. Now if they'd only do the same for Poison types...

Anyway, Psychic/Dark sounds good too if provided the right moves, stats, and abilities.

I'm surprised they haven't tried a Ghost/Steel type with Levitate. Like a robot phantom. THAT'D BE COOL.

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Another interesting type combination I'd like to see is Ghost/Steel, especially if it had Levitate. One weakness (Fire again...) with 4 immunities and resistances to most most other types. I'd also love to see Ninjask get a 3rd stage evolution with better bulk and a different secondary typing (Bug/Steel Ninjarmor, anyone?)
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Well, in Maryland, the seniors at Linganore High play Pokemon every single day on the bus/in class. Just sayin'.
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I'm personally holding out for a Psychic/Dark type. That typing gives only one weakness (4x to bug), and would be very interesting as both a wall and a sweeper which takes mostly neutral hits across the board.
If one had Base Stats of 100HP/85DEF/75SPDEF, it would be able to survive Max Attack Tyranitar Crunch (Including sandstorm damage) and Max SPATK Heatran Fire Blast.
This, and provided they don't beef up the bug types, it would be unstoppable
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This, and provided they don't beef up the bug types, it would be unstoppable
Of course it wouldn't. Ninjask would be able to easily outspeed and OHKO it with STAB X-Scissor.
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Of course it wouldn't. Ninjask would be able to easily outspeed and OHKO it with STAB X-Scissor.
Unless the dark/psychic pokemon was faster.
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Unless the dark/psychic pokemon was faster.
Protect>Speed Boost>X-Scissor
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Ok nearly unstoppable. But I don't see many people using bug types.
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Ok nearly unstoppable. But I don't see many people using bug types.
Scizor, Forretress and Ninjask are all OU Pokemon. Yanmega is BL. There are a fair few new Bug Pokemon including a 600BST Legendary, and that's only Pokemon who are Bug Type. There are numerous other Pokemon with Bug type moves such as Flygon.

He's not unstoppable, but would be a very good Pokemon.
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Scizor, Forretress and Ninjask are all OU Pokemon. Yanmega is BL. There are a fair few new Bug Pokemon including a 600BST Legendary, and that's only Pokemon who are Bug Type. There are numerous other Pokemon with Bug type moves such as Flygon.

He's not unstoppable, but would be a very good Pokemon.
what r the abbreviations and dragon types r much stronger
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OU - Overused
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BST - Base Stat Total

"Stronger" is completely relative.
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I take it we're back to the teir list, lol.

I don't really get the point of a Pokemon Teir list but whatev.
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I take it we're back to the teir list, lol.

I don't really get the point of a Pokemon Teir list but whatev.
So that not every battle is full of MEWTWOEZ!!11 AND KYOGREZ!11 derrr
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I take it we're back to the teir list, lol.

I don't really get the point of a Pokemon Teir list but whatev.
They are important. Imagine a team of Arceuses vs non legendary pokemon. I don't think the first team would have much difficulty winning.
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They are important. Imagine a team of Arceuses vs non legendary pokemon. I don't think the first team would have much difficulty winning.
No teir list doesn't mean every pokemon is fine! They can ban a few (uber) But I don't get the point of the OU, BL, and UU
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I don't think there is an age limit to Pokemon. Nintendo knows all these grown kids are playing Pokemon, which is why they add all these new moves, combos, strategies, and stuff. If it was a game for little kids, why waste their time making lots of new moves and stuff each generation. Why make the battle frontier and stuff? (Most of the time, small kids don't implement strategies or keep moves on their pokemon like double team, swords dance, etc.)

I have been playing Pokemon since the beginning--ever since the first games, and I do not plan to stop. I really want to collect all the episodes now.
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No teir list doesn't mean every pokemon is fine! They can ban a few (uber) But I don't get the point of the OU, BL, and UU
These divide the Pokemon up in terms of relative usage and usability. Whilst every Pokemon is counterable and none is outright best, there will always be Pokemon which do better generally than others. These are divided into the tiers so lower tier tournaments can be done, giving the less capable Pokemon more usage. Without UU tournaments etc., less than a quarter of all Pokemon would get any real usage in competitive battling.

Take Blaziken and Infernape, for example. Blaziken is UU, Infernape is OU. Both have the same typing and are used for mixed attacking or wallbreaking. However, Infernape has a significantly better speed stat, making him a far more reliable choice in the speed oriented metagame. However, this doesn't mean that Blaziken is useless, as his higher attacking stats allow him to muscle his way through Pokemon which Infernape can't.

This is 4th Generation, by the way. I personally feel that as of 5th generation Blaziken outclasses Infernape.
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These divide the Pokemon up in terms of relative usage and usability. Whilst every Pokemon is counterable and none is outright best, there will always be Pokemon which do better generally than others. These are divided into the tiers so lower tier tournaments can be done, giving the less capable Pokemon more usage. Without UU tournaments etc., less than a quarter of all Pokemon would get any real usage in competitive battling.

Take Blaziken and Infernape, for example. Blaziken is UU, Infernape is OU. Both have the same typing and are used for mixed attacking or wallbreaking. However, Infernape has a significantly better speed stat, making him a far more reliable choice in the speed oriented metagame. However, this doesn't mean that Blaziken is useless, as his higher attacking stats allow him to muscle his way through Pokemon which Infernape can't.

This is 4th Generation, by the way. I personally feel that as of 5th generation Blaziken outclasses Infernape.
So they just took all of the pokemon with the best states and labled them OU?

I agree the Blaziken does look better than Infernape in Gen 5. But I haven't played that yet so I guess we'll find out.
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Imagine giving every single pokemon a score in a points-based system (like 1-10) in terms of usage and reliability and all the other things you take in consideration in regards to the type it is (sweeper, wall, spec. sweeper, etc...) then ordering them in a list. Although it's a slight bit biased due to the human element, but it's a general list.
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So they just took all of the pokemon with the best states and labled them OU?

I agree the Blaziken does look better than Infernape in Gen 5. But I haven't played that yet so I guess we'll find out.
No, Base stats aren't everything. A Pokemons abilities and moves are very important too. For instance, Wobbuffet has a fairly low stat total but has a fantastic ability and a moveset which allows him to abuse it well, making him Uber.
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No, Base stats aren't everything. A Pokemons abilities and moves are very important too. For instance, Wobbuffet has a fairly low stat total but has a fantastic ability and a moveset which allows him to abuse it well, making him Uber.
Well I meant strategically placed stats. Like Wobuffet is one of those.
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I don't think there is an age limit to Pokemon. Nintendo knows all these grown kids are playing Pokemon, which is why they add all these new moves, combos, strategies, and stuff. If it was a game for little kids, why waste their time making lots of new moves and stuff each generation. Why make the battle frontier and stuff? (Most of the time, small kids don't implement strategies or keep moves on their pokemon like double team, swords dance, etc.)

I have been playing Pokemon since the beginning--ever since the first games, and I do not plan to stop. I really want to collect all the episodes now.
There is no age limit ut people tend to make fun of teens playing pokemon. But I agree on the strategy part.
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So they just took all of the pokemon with the best strategically states and labled them OU?
No. They always have suspect laddering and testing to determine and reevaluate individual Pokemon. Generally though, the highest BST pokemon are top tier, with the exception of Slaking and Regigigas due to abilities. There's always a process, otherwise we'd have tiers set for 5th generation already.
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No. They always have suspect laddering and testing to determine and reevaluate individual Pokemon. Generally though, the highest BST pokemon are top tier, with the exception of Slaking and Regigigas due to abilities. There's always a process, otherwise we'd have tiers set for 5th generation already.
I think I get it. It doesn't work as well as fighting games.
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Actually, it works just as well if not easier in fighting games.
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Actually, it works just as well if not easier in fighting games.
I wouldn't say that, pokemon is strategy. AND you have 6 guys on a team.
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There's a different criteria for both.

Pokemon is strategic in a different way than fighters (I'll use Smash) in that you have to take into account possible movesets, combinations with teams, ability to use alone, reliability, et cetera.

In smash, the general rule for the tier list goes somewhat like this:
What character has the most positive matchup ratios/least negative matchup ratios?
What character has the second most positive matchup ratios/least negative matchup ratios?
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Tiers in Pokemon and in fighting games work differently, due to the different requirements for each game. As stated before, fighting games are usually tiered dependent on the characters matchups with every other character, and the character with the better matchups in general is at the top.

With Pokemon this is impossible to do, as a Pokemons matchup against another Pokemon will vary greatly depending on your EV spread, moveset, item etc. Because of this, Pokemon tiers are based on different factors etc.

One other thing to mention is that in Pokemon, things which are generally considered low tier can still be used to good effect in competitive battling. This has been proven with Solrock and Quagsire. When a character is low tier in fighting games, you'll basically never see it in a final of any competitive tournament unless said tournament is low tier only.
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Tiers in Pokemon and in fighting games work differently, due to the different requirements for each game. As stated before, fighting games are usually tiered dependent on the characters matchups with every other character, and the character with the better matchups in general is at the top.

With Pokemon this is impossible to do, as a Pokemons matchup against another Pokemon will vary greatly depending on your EV spread, moveset, item etc. Because of this, Pokemon tiers are based on different factors etc.

One other thing to mention is that in Pokemon, things which are generally considered low tier can still be used to good effect in competitive battling. This has been proven with Solrock and Quagsire. When a character is low tier in fighting games, you'll basically never see it in a final of any competitive tournament unless said tournament is low tier only.

You also forgot IVs which make it very difficult to get the best your pokemon can do.
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You also forgot IVs which make it very difficult to get the best your pokemon can do.
Shoddy etc. allows you max IV's, and a lot of people will just use PokeSav etc. to get them. General competitive ruling allows it because it's within the legal boundaries of the game.
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I liked how soo many Isshu pokemon are useful compared to each other, but the power difference between generations is soo noticeable in terms of stats. That's most likely why Gamefreak is giving many older pokemon more movepools through leveling, TM, move tutors, etc.
E.g. Every bug with butterfly dance(Venomoth ftw ), Ninetales w/ Drought and Politoad w/ Drizzle.
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Shoddy etc. allows you max IV's, and a lot of people will just use PokeSav etc. to get them. General competitive ruling allows it because it's within the legal boundaries of the game.
Pokesav? and I'm not talking about Shoddy, I was talking about the actual game.

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Pokesav allows people to create Pokemon with the desired stats, moves, color, etc. A Pokemon generator.
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Pokesav allows people to create Pokemon with the desired stats, moves, color, etc. A Pokemon generator.
It's actually an entire save editor, and allows you to edit any aspect of your game save. That said, generating Pokemon is its most common usage. It's a good program, unless people attempt to abuse it to create Wonder Guard Spiritomb, etc.

Also, Blues, what are your opinions on this Groudon? I'm planning on using it for a 5th Generation Sun Team, and external opinion is always helpful
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them too! This also has the ingame stats along with the EV's, so as to be interpretable by less technical players.


Nature: Adamant
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
Rock Polish/Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw

Stats:
(112EVS) 369 HP
(168EVS) 415 ATTACK
(212EVS) 369 DEFENSE
(000EVS) 212 SPECIAL ATTACK
(000EVS) 216 SPECIAL DEFENSE
(016EVS) 220 SPEED

369 HP is a magical number. It is both odd and divides by 16 to 23.0625 (This is a very efficient number for Leftovers whilst also being an odd number, which means an extra turn of surviving residual damage). It is also capable of surviving two consecutive Draco Meteors or a Draco Meteor followed by Outrage from a Zekrom with maximum ATK and SPATK. 369 Defense means Outrage from 399ATK Rayquaza and zekrom deals a maximum of 165 damage (One less point makes it 166). This makes it a good choice for stopping any physical sweepers, as even a supereffective STAB move with a high base power still cannot OHKO Groudon, whilst its high Attack allows it to do a severe amount of damage back. 220 Speed is a lovely number for the speed as it allows it to outspeed Max Speed Deoxys-A after a Rock Polish boost (Giving it 440 speed), and by extension any Pokemon not holding a Choice Scarf with the exception of Ninjask and Deoxys-S. It also allows it to outspeed any of the other base 90 speed Ubers who choose not to EV in Speed, which is always welcome.

As they always do, special attackers will give Groudon trouble, but that's what Ho-oh/Blissey are for. This Groudon is meant to be and works very well as a counter to physical sweepers, whilst also being capable of dishing out a nasty chunk of damage on its own.

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It's actually an entire save editor, and allows you to edit any aspect of your game save. That said, generating Pokemon is its most common usage. It's a good program, unless people attempt to abuse it to create Wonder Guard Spiritomb, etc.

Also, Blues, what are your opinions on this Groudon? I'm planning on using it for a 5th Generation Sun Team, and external opinion is always helpful
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them too! This also has the ingame stats along with the EV's, so as to be interpretable by less technical players.


Nature: Adamant
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
Rock Polish/Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw

Stats:
(112EVS) 369 HP
(168EVS) 415 ATTACK
(212EVS) 369 DEFENSE
(000EVS) 212 SPECIAL ATTACK
(000EVS) 216 SPECIAL DEFENSE
(016EVS) 220 SPEED

369 HP is a magical number. It is both odd and divides by 16 to 23.0625 (This is a very efficient number for Leftovers whilst also being an odd number, which means an extra turn of surviving residual damage). It is also capable of surviving two consecutive Draco Meteors or a Draco Meteor followed by Outrage from a Zekrom with maximum ATK and SPATK. 369 Defense means Outrage from 399ATK Rayquaza and zekrom deals a maximum of 165 damage (One less point makes it 166). This makes it a good choice for stopping any physical sweepers, as even a supereffective STAB move with a high base power still cannot OHKO Groudon, whilst its high Attack allows it to do a severe amount of damage back. 220 Speed is a lovely number for the speed as it allows it to outspeed Max Speed Deoxys-A after a Rock Polish boost (Giving it 440 speed), and by extension any Pokemon not holding a Choice Scarf with the exception of Ninjask and Deoxys-S. It also allows it to outspeed any of the other base 90 speed Ubers who choose not to EV in Speed, which is always welcome.

As they always do, special attackers will give Groudon trouble, but that's what Ho-oh/Blissey are for. This Groudon is meant to be and works very well as a counter to physical sweepers, whilst also being capable of dishing out a nasty chunk of damage on its own.
Dude, that sounds like an Epic Groundon! Though maybe give your groudon a Spec, to boost his Sp. Attack. But leftovers is also a very good choice.

Well, I don't use legendaries because they're too good and they make the game easier.
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Dude, that sounds like an Epic Groundon! Though maybe give your groudon a Spec, to boost his Sp. Attack. But leftovers is also a very good choice.

Well, I don't use legendaries because they're too good and they make the game easier.
derp

I don't have much of an opinion on the set tbh. It appears to be able to tank both physical and special Zekrom, and still work great as a Rock Polisher. It seems like a good set. How has it fared so far?
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Dude, that sounds like an Epic Groundon! Though maybe give your groudon a Spec, to boost his Sp. Attack. But leftovers is also a very good choice.

Well, I don't use legendaries because they're too good and they make the game easier.
Groudon isn't viable as far as special moves go, barring Overheat to get rid of the occasional Skarmory. Reshiram is meant to be the special sweeper on this team.

@ Blues: I haven't tried it yet, I'm busy sorting out the team. Once it's done I'll probably try it out on whichever Shoddy server allows 5th Generation Pokemon and abilities. Next Pokemon I'm having is Ho-oh, with a similar EV spread and purpose to Groudon, but focused on sponging special attacks.
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Lol Blues, Derp is right.

I don't know what I was thinking. I think I haven't used legendaries for a while, and I was thinking you could do the same thing with a specmence. My bad
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I don't have much of an opinion on the set tbh. It appears to be able to tank both physical and special Zekrom, and still work great as a Rock Polisher. It seems like a good set. How has it fared so far?
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@Big J- i always had 5 regular pokemon(including my chosen starter) and the main lengedary of the game version on my team.
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Ulgamoth rocks. Shanderaa is good too, but Ulgamoth is my favourite non-legendary Pokemon out of Generation 5.

Shubarugo is a strong contender with excellent stats, but its movepool is rather shallow.
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@Big J- i always had 5 regular pokemon(including my chosen starter) and the main lengedary of the game version on my team.
I did the very first time I played but then I stopped because it made the Elite four too easy.
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I did the very first time I played but then I stopped because it made the Elite four too easy.
I usually face the elite four underleveled by about 6 or 7 levels under the weakest of the elite four. I still win.
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I usually face the elite four underleveled by about 6 or 7 levels under the weakest of the elite four. I still win.
Well when I fight the elite four (on diamond anyway) I'm usually at level 40-45 sometimes I win and sometimes I just train on the elite four until I win, lol.
On Gen 3 I don't think they should give you a level 70 right before you fight it.
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In the game I just train one Pokemon, which reaches approximately level 70 by the Elite Four.
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Why do you do that!? That's no fun!
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Why do you do that!? That's no fun!
To me the multiplayer aspect of Pokemon far outweighs the single player in terms of fun.

Also, I have a Battle Video of a match against my friend who also EV trains. I 6-0'd him, but it was a good battle, and I may try to upload it soon.
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To me the multiplayer aspect of Pokemon far outweighs the single player in terms of fun.

Also, I have a Battle Video of a match against my friend who also EV trains. I 6-0'd him, but it was a good battle, and I may try to upload it soon.
Same here but where's the strategy in that?
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Single player and multiplayer are the same :/

Your opponents are just different, so "strategy" is never lost.
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Single player and multiplayer are the same :/

Your opponents are just different, so "strategy" is never lost.
I think that was an insult to my earlier post but it was worded so clever I'm not sure
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Fun is completely subjective and since it's his game, he has the right to play it however he wants.
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Fun is completely subjective and since it's his game, he has the right to play it however he wants.
True yet that makes the game really boring! Lol XD
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True yet that makes the game really boring for me and others who agree with me! Lol XD
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You can but it will be the nature of your pokemon and the chance is 50%
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Same here but where's the strategy in that?
That statement confuses me. The Story can be got through fairly easily simply by having a high level Pokemon. Strategy is significantly more important for multiplayer because you have opponents who are capable of it too.
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That statement confuses me. The Story can be got through fairly easily simply by having a high level Pokemon. Strategy is significantly more important for multiplayer because you have opponents who are capable of it too.
Well try fighting the elite four with level 40's. No legendaries (Not even Pseudo).
And there will be some strategy.
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Well try fighting the elite four with level 40's. No legendaries (Not even Pseudo).
And there will be some strategy.
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There's strategy in competitive battling~
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I'm playing soul silver as I write this. You can never be too old for pokemon whether it's about having fun or getting into the game and figuring out strategies. For me generation 2 was the best because it was the first pokemon game I played.
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am i too old for pokemon? am i too old to have fun no
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arent we all its like the best selling game to date(at least it should)
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arent we all its like the best selling game to date(at least it should)
Actually the pokemon video game franchise has done pretty well. It is the second best selling video game franchise, right after Mario. Mario has sold 240 million games and pokemon has sold 200 million
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not so much sony but M$ yes bought an 360 and im hating it. and nice raichu
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Wow, Pokemon sales are right up there with Mario? That's surprising, considering that Mario has been there over 10 years longer than Pokemon.

I hope Pokemon never ends...I doubt the games would end. If the TV show was to unfortunately stop, I bet the games would keep going, especially the traditional Pokemon adventure/ RPG games, which makes them the most money, compared to Pokemon Ranger and their console Pokemon games.

As a kid, I wished for Pokemon to never end. Idk how long that was--'96? '97? Now I'm hoping for another console game like Pokemon Stadium...none of the console games do not match up to Pokemon Stadium.

I like all my consoles! The Xbox really only gets turned on for Fable and Mass Effect, and online, since all my friends are Pro Xbox. My PS3 is my blu-ray player, and it really hasn't gotten much gameplay lately, though it did in the past. Then my Wii, it gets more attention than the other two. All of my consoles, except my Xbox were obtained around launch day, and still has plenty of life in them, since I hardly get time to play them due to college and stuff--my DS got all the playtime.
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i dont like m$ like i used to the xbox is expense for no reason the ps3 has a bluray player and other things but if you buy an xbox and get live for the full life of the thing you will be at the price of the ps3 just to be crused out all the time and have to worry about the red ring of death all the time (i still doubt they fixed it) i even got it once but was turning it off before the stuff melted
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i dont like m$ like i used to the xbox is expense for no reason the ps3 has a bluray player and other things but if you buy an xbox and get live for the full life of the thing you will be at the price of the ps3 just to be crused out all the time and have to worry about the red ring of death all the time (i still doubt they fixed it) i even got it once but was turning it off before the stuff melted
lol

I wonder if you have any of the two systems. I have both, and they're very much alike. And RROD? I chuckled.
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i dont like m$ like i used to the xbox is expense for no reason the ps3 has a bluray player and other things but if you buy an xbox and get live for the full life of the thing you will be at the price of the ps3 just to be crused out all the time and have to worry about the red ring of death all the time (i still doubt they fixed it) i even got it once but was turning it off before the stuff melted
One of my co-workers was talking about something that got out of line in his brand new Xbox, so there still are problems. I don't like M$ either. My reasons are:
Windows 98
Windows 7
Windows Vista
the problems with the Xbox
and the problems with the Xbox 360

To me, the only thing they have done right in year is Windows XP. I have never used Windows 2000 and I have heard a lot of problems with Windows ME. It makes me wonder how Windows still has more than 80% of the computer OS market.
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Much needed bump. What would you guys want in a pokemon game for the 3DS
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Is that so harrrrrd? And better secret bases.
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What would light do exactly?

Buffing Poison sounds more appropriate.
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Is that so harrrrrd? And better secret bases.
what do you mean by 3D models?

and I liked the secret bases in Gen 3 better than in Gen 4, but I agree they could be better. and Mixing records with random people since you can battle with random people.

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3D as in Pokemon Stadium stylized graphics instead of sprites. :/
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3D as in Pokemon Stadium stylized graphics instead of sprites. :/
oh, that would be awesome. I don't see any reason they couldn't have that in gen 3 or gen 4, gen 5 could definitely do that with the power of the 3DS and the storage capacity of the game cards. Hopefully they are working on it since the Pokemon company was the first to get the dev kit for the 3DS.
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but if the do that might it scare some away for it i want it too but you never know
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I don't understand.

3D models would drive away players? How so?
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I don't understand.

3D models would drive away players? How so?
That's what I am thinking. I think it wouldn't lose any potential sales, and might actually bring some graphics *****s to the game.
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by people thinking its not a real pokemon game(like non bungie made halo games will be)
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by people thinking its not a real pokemon game(like non bungie made halo games will be)
I don't think that would be the case.
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Except Gamefreak would still be the main developers. :/
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Except Gamefreak would still be the main developers. :/
I think he meant people would think it's not part of the mainstream pokemon games.
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right they would think it won't be part of the mainstream pokemon games like a spin off or something
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Except they'd find out later that it's not a spin-off after reading the game description on the back. :/
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They don't have to. Some third party will do it for them.

I don't play Pokemon Ranger, but I know how it works by watching videos and conversation with friends.
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As much as I liek 3D pokemon models, they need to make the physical attack animations better since they looked so unneccessarily slow in Battle Revolution. Maybe they can do better sprite animations?:3 B/W's sprites move a bit too fast and jittery
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As much as I liek 3D pokemon models, they need to make the physical attack animations better since they looked so unneccessarily slow in Battle Revolution. Maybe they can do better sprite animations?:3 B/W's sprites move a bit too fast and jittery
I sure that they could fix that
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Pokemon seriously needs better attack animations.

Specifically in 3D games, it's pathetic how for the longest time, the Pokemon would never even touch eachother, and PBR wasn't much of an improvement.

In the next Pokemon Stadium styled game, I'd love to see it maintain the same battle mechanics, but also have the Pokemon move around in the space, have specialized attack animations, react, etc. The best parallel I can think of is DQ9. In that, the characters all run around the screen, but it's all turn-based.
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Pokemon seriously needs better attack animations.

Specifically in 3D games, it's pathetic how for the longest time, the Pokemon would never even touch eachother, and PBR wasn't much of an improvement.

In the next Pokemon Stadium styled game, I'd love to see it maintain the same battle mechanics, but also have the Pokemon move around in the space, have specialized attack animations, react, etc. The best parallel I can think of is DQ9. In that, the characters all run around the screen, but it's all turn-based.
I agree with this
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Pokemon should give a try in one of it's 3D games of the FFXIII style combat where you're given a time slot to input your attacks and can attack only so often and the other pokemon can attack with it's own time slot and stuff. You need to know what it's like; try youtubing some footage.
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Pokemon should give a try in one of it's 3D games of the FFXIII style combat where you're given a time slot to input your attacks and can attack only so often and the other pokemon can attack with it's own time slot and stuff. You need to know what it's like; try youtubing some footage.
thats pretty cool
another idea would be close to command style so u can put together combos and stuff like in kh bbs if it went real time but that or m&l rpg or sonic chron drk bro would all be good for turn base to keep the action going
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They wouldn't do that, because that would make a whole other battle system. Remember, don't fix what isn't broken. In fact, Gamefreak said themselves that if you wanted different gameplay, that's what the spinoffs were for, like Mystery Dungeon and Ranger
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Pokemon should give a try in one of it's 3D games of the FFXIII style combat where you're given a time slot to input your attacks and can attack only so often and the other pokemon can attack with it's own time slot and stuff. You need to know what it's like; try youtubing some footage.
Having played that I honestly think turn-based Pokemon is and would be better anyway.
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I would also like Gamefreak to hire writers for their plots.
They've delved so low in mediocrity that I don't care about the plots now. D: Each game is more or less an expansion pack to the previous game, adding new selections, buffs, and nerfs.
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They've delved so low in mediocrity that I don't care about the plots now. D: Each game is more or less an expansion pack to the previous game, adding new selections, buffs, and nerfs.
That wouldn't be a bad idea
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They've delved so low in mediocrity that I don't care about the plots now. D:
this

But now?

Like the original games had much plot going for it...

But it does seem like B&W are delving into some more adult themes.
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But now?

Like the original games had much plot going for it...

But it does seem like B&W are delving into some more adult themes.
More adult themes? They're all pretty equal, with Team Rocket being the most "adult". Though I'm not a nostalgiafan and my favorite was 3rd Gen, I can definitely say that starting with Team Aqua/Magma, the teams started being cults.

Team Rocket - the bad guys who abuse pokemon for greed. They cut off slowpoke tails, they sell off pokemon in the casino, they killed a Marowak's mother, etc. Overall they just gave off a creepy feel because whenever you see them, you feel "Oh, what are they up to now?" instead of "It's another grunt, wonder what hilarious line he's going to say to me?"

Team Magma/Aqua - Overall, people say that these teams are the stupidest out of Team Galactic/Plasma. While going from mafia control to saving the world from drought or flooding sounds cool, the grunts and the leaders' ambitions are so farfetch'ed(Teehee, pun ) that you just go "Wut?" at every encounter.

Team Galactic - Like Team M/A except less ******ed. Basically Cyrus is autistic and believes he can escape or make a world to his liking.

Team Plasma - I haven't played Black/White yet so I can't say much about them, but all I know is that N is a full-blown ******.
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More adult themes? They're all pretty equal, with Team Rocket being the most "adult". Though I'm not a nostalgiafan and my favorite was 3rd Gen, I can definitely say that starting with Team Aqua/Magma, the teams started being cults.

Team Rocket - the bad guys who abuse pokemon for greed. They cut off slowpoke tails, they sell off pokemon in the casino, they killed a Marowak's mother, etc. Overall they just gave off a creepy feel because whenever you see them, you feel "Oh, what are they up to now?" instead of "It's another grunt, wonder what hilarious line he's going to say to me?"

Team Magma/Aqua - Overall, people say that these teams are the stupidest out of Team Galactic/Plasma. While going from mafia control to saving the world from drought or flooding sounds cool, the grunts and the leaders' ambitions are so farfetch'ed(Teehee, pun ) that you just go "Wut?" at every encounter.

Team Galactic - Like Team M/A except less ******ed. Basically Cyrus is autistic and believes he can escape or make a world to his liking.

Team Plasma - I haven't played Black/White yet so I can't say much about them, but all I know is that N is a full-blown ******.
u forgot that cyrus tried to destroy the old world
and plasma is trying to separate the pokemon and humans making the world "black and white" from what ive heard
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But now?

Like the original games had much plot going for it...

But it does seem like B&W are delving into some more adult themes.
True. Black and White have kept the young audience has always had in Japan while gaining more of the 18-25 age group and more teenagers than other games have.
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Team Rocket is the only team that has actually maimed a pokemon.You don't hear that with the other teams. I can't call Team Plasma "dark" or "more adult" since they only seek to separate pokemon from humanity - not exactly evil. All teams have been extreme in their actions. :/
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I suppose, but it still seems like characters like N have far more developed backstories than many characters we've seen thus far. (this is just based off of what I've seen, I'm not entirely sure.)

I just think that this is the first time they've brought up the point (in the game) that Pokemon are essentially slaves. The other teams mostly seek taking over the world, but I feel this one has a more profound goal, and you almost feel like what they're doing is good.

I agree that Team Rocket probably has been the most evil, and did feature Pokemon death, which is a topic no other game has covered (that poor old lady's Growlite ;_; )

However, I feel like Team Rocket's frequent portrayal as being "bumbling" sorts of villains, as shown in G/S and the show, has sort of lost them their credibility :/

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Team Rocket is the only team that has actually maimed a pokemon.You don't hear that with the other teams. I can't call Team Plasma "dark" or "more adult" since they only seek to separate pokemon from humanity - not exactly evil. All teams have been extreme in their actions. :/
well team galactic set some bombs in the safari zone (ill call it that no matter what) and in best wishes team rocket begins getting A LOT better
just watch the subbed episodes and ull know what i mean
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wait when did team rocket kill a pokemon? unless your talking about newtwo i don't think it happened in the show
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wait when did team rocket kill a pokemon? unless your talking about newtwo i don't think it happened in the show
In Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, they killed a Cubone's mother in the Pokemon tower, and it turned into a Ghost you had to put to rest.
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oh yeah now i remember. that was kind of sad
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I FELT LIKE A BOSS "PURIFYING" THAT MOTHER MAROWAK'S SOUL WITH MY HYPER BEAM!

That'll teach it not to block the path.
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blues that was....HALARIOUS lol like a boss
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well team galactic set some bombs in the safari zone (ill call it that no matter what) and in best wishes team rocket begins getting A LOT better
just watch the subbed episodes and ull know what i mean
I think Best Wishes Team Rocket is overrated. They may look badass but they seriously out of character, have no personalities now, and still lose every time.
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In Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, they killed a Cubone's mother in the Pokemon tower, and it turned into a Ghost you had to put to rest.
If you talk to other people in that tower/cemetery they say that team rocket murdered their pokemon as well. No evil team is as vicious as team Rocket in the pokemon world.
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good god you think james wouldn't have anything to do with them hes rich why did he go to work for them?
He went to work with them to avoid his arranged marriage, at least thats I think.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:26 AM
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is it that bad(remembers jessibell) nevermind but couldn't he work for someone else hes a kind person and being part of team rocket has only brought him bad hes been shot at, shocked, punched, forced(atleast i hope so) to wear female clothes and even had (i hope) fake melons. nothing can be worth that!!!
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:27 AM
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Jessie and Meowth are his friends!